Where are the jagged, connecting pieces that should be evident? Hoses, attached pieces of the fuseulage? Some tremendous shock load must have been applied to the airframe from the side to do this. I have no theory.
arkady
Posted on 11/12/2001 7:40:57 PM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
Monday Nov. 12, 2001; 11:34 p.m. EST
Former NTSB Official Doubts Accident Caused Flt. 587 Crash
Aviation expert and former National Transportation & Safety Board official Vernon Grose said late Monday that he's increasingly skeptical that the crash of American Airlines Flight 587 was purely accidental.
"I am backing away from the ready idea that this is simply an accident," Grose told Fox News Channel's John Scott.
The veteran air crash prober said that he questions the sequence in which the plane broke up over Jamaica Bay before slamming into a residential area in Rockaway, Queens.
"Photographs you've already shown tonigt (indicate) the vertical stabilizer of the aircraft with the American Airlines insignia right on it (fell into) Jamaica Bay long before the engine falls off in Queens," he told Scott.
Grose said that if the vertical stabilizer detached from Flt. 587 over Jamaica Bay, which the plane traversed before plummeting to the ground in Rockaway, it suggested that catastrophic engine failure alone may not have caused the crash.
"No, I don't think that's the situation at all," he told FNC.
"The engine that came free, which apparently was the number 1 left engine, and crashed on land - that was well after the vertical stabilizer was detached from the aircraft and that tells me that somehow..... that the airplane was progressively disintegrating, not just losing an engine and then diving into the ground."
"Earlier today I thought it was simply the loss of an engine that caused this," Grose told FNC. "But I'm not convinced now.... I am becoming more skeptical."
The witness reports I've read here on FR indicate that the wing was disintegrating and it was the wing debris that hit the vertical stabilizer causing it to break off. At first I didn't think an engine failure would cause much wing damage because most of it is mounted in front of the wing, but someone posted a report of problems with this particular engine indicating that a small section of the rear of the engine is under the wing and can throw debris perpendicularly into the wing root. The post also indicated that the engine can be cut half, possibly causing a separation with a big piece flying back and damaging the wing. The rest of the engine may not have separated until the plane was out of control.
I know you're probably not going to believe me, but I know the guy that produces Aaron Brown's show, which is what was on the air at 10:30. He's kind of a quirky guy, and would have had no trouble taking one look at the lineup for that news conference and saying, "I'm not gonna air this crap!" Especially since Aaron Brown had some pretty good guests on tonight, including a guy from Far Rockaway who had a great (and lengthy) home video of the crash scene.
In fact, Brown's 10:00 show was supposed to have been quite quirky in its own right, lots of humorous "don't take it all too seriously" elements, stuff like that. But 9/11 took that blueprint right off the page, at least for the foreseeable future.
It had just been "serviced" yesterday, according to American Airlines.
Where are the jagged, connecting pieces that should be evident? Hoses, attached pieces of the fuseulage? Some tremendous shock load must have been applied to the airframe from the side to do this. I have no theory.
arkady
Like Clinton the LIAR told the truth about 800. Witnesses saw the missile that day.
There is absolutely no preliminary evidence indicating an accident but plenty of preliminary evidence that it wasn't
The NTSB NEVER speculates on the cause of a crash, epecially 3 hours after the fact, that is, until today they didn't, when they ceased to be a reliable impartial body.
Nobody is asking the obvious question, which is were the bags going into the hold searched or x-rayed?
If the answer is no, nobody in his or her right mind has any business getting on an airplane until this becomes SOP.
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