Posted on 11/08/2001 8:14:41 AM PST by Clovis_Skeptic
Sorry, no transcript as of now. Video only. Worth the effort to view.
The video provides a look at this compound in the foothills above Fresno, CA. Pre 9-11, a Fresn County Sheriffs deputy was killed by a member of this peaceful Islamic community. The suspect (in the beginning trial phase still) broke into a empty nearby foothill home, when deputies arrived this guy was lying in the hallway floor with a rifle, and killed one deputy. This video is the first investigative reporting we have had on this Islamic community. The trail leads to FUQRA, a known terrorist group operating all over the world, and have several communities such as this one all over the USA. Here is an excerpt from an article of the Sacramento Bee...
(Published Sept. 30, 2001)
There is no evidence that the Fresno group has been involved in any terrorist activities, officials say.
The group, according to a federal source, is part of Fuqra, an organization whose name means "poverty" in Arabic and which has had compounds in several U.S. areas.
Some Fuqra members in other areas have been implicated in past years in domestic terrorist attacks, and the State Department has labeled the group, known formally as Jamaat ul-Fuqra, as "an Islamic sect that seeks to purify Islam through violence."
The group south of Fresno operates an 1,800-acre compound called the International Quranic Open University, which sits on the former site of the drug addiction recovery cult Synanon.
The compound, a series of mobile homes shaded by trees, also serves as a U-Haul rentals location. A resident there last week refused to talk to a reporter, referring inquiries to a Visalia attorney who did not respond to a message seeking information.
Authorities have been studying the compound since the Aug. 21 slaying of Fresno County Sheriff's Deputy Erik Telen. Officials charged 20-year-old Ramadan Abdur-Rauf Abdullah with murder in the killing, apparently stemming from a botched burglary at a rural home.
James Oppliger, Fresno County's chief deputy district attorney, said the suspect claimed he had been living at the compound seeking psychiatric treatment from the Quranic university.
Oppliger said he since has begun studying the group and its possible connections to other organizations.
(Zavia Books) is the bookstore for this Islamic compound. It is called Koranic Open University. Note the books being sold. One of them is prefaced by ( Sheik Mubarik Ali Shah Jilani [Gilani]) a known terrorist. The trail leads from Baladullah (actually Miramonte, CA) to Pakistan, where Sheik Gilani lives. He is the head of Fuqra.
That was then; this is now. I'm hoping Dubya will actually DO something about it.
These groups have had 8 years to flourish under clinton, for one thing. While these terrorist diaper-heads came across the borders unchecked, clinton was busy directing all the FBI & ATF investigations toward people like Richard Jewell, "Lone Bomber" McVeigh, Eric Rudolph (sp?), and the guy at Ruby Ridge whose gun barrel was a few centimeters too short.
If Bush doesn't clean this up and do something about our immigration laws, I won't vote for him again. And neither will a few hundred thousand other conservatives. I just hope he realizes that.
We can't let this die, keep bumping it up and locating other villages.
There is a link on thread one that has other locations across the country that have these little "villages". I forgot who posted it, but I did go to it and it lists several other areas.
The Islamic Finder may be useful in this regard. Just type in a zip code.
Here are some of the changes:
Bars to Re-Entry. A person who is in the US in unauthorized status for 12 or more consecutive months beginning April 1, 1997 and who leaves the US will be barred from admission to the US for 10 years. People who were here in unauthorized status for 6 consecutive months and then leave can be barred from admission for 3 years.
INA Section 245i, Adjustment of Status in the US. The law which allowed people to apply for a green card in the US (adjustment of status) even if they overstayed, worked without permission, or entered without inspection, has ended except for some savings clauses which will permit those who had Immigration petitions or Labor Certificate applications filed by January 14, 1998 to continue to adjust status (apply for a green card) in the US under Section 245i. Others who are out-of-status will have to apply for the green card outside the US and if they have been in the US in unauthorized status for more than 6 months, they can be barred from re-rentry for 3 years. (10 years if in unauthorized status for over 1 year). There are exceptions to every rule including this one. For example, it does not apply to immediate relatives of US citizens who entered with inspection and to some others.
With Section 245i no longer in effect, an unauthorized person cannot apply for a Diversity Lottery visa in the US. If they go back home to apply, they are subject to the 3 year and 10 year bars to re-entry. It seems that the Lottery is no longer a possibility for those in the US in unauthorized status for over 6 months.
I do wonder though, if this isn't a real touchy situation since as the articles you posted show a link to Pakistan and Fuqra?
Thanks for that. Could you share with me your knowledge and experience with Islam? Have you prayed in a Mosque, visited a Mosque, do you have Muslim friends, have you traveled in Muslim countries and have you read the Quran in its totality, have you read it in Arabic and have you studied the times in which it was written?
I think the Bible could be taken out of context (and has) in an equally horrendous fashion. Erin Kennedy
I think her response speaks for itself.
Things like this should give conservatives (like myself) pause over the wisdom of having charter schools and voucher programs... We could have thousands of such schools all over the country funded by your tax dollars if we had a voucher system.
There's a distinct behavioural difference between Christian fundamentalists/evangelicals and Islamic fundamentalists....
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