Let's Restore Medina to the Jews

The Dhimmi (Jews and Christians under Islam) | 1980 (French) 1985 (Translation to English) | Bat Ye'or

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From Chapter 1, Historical Outline:

In the year 622, on the invitation of the Ansar - a group of pagans converted to Islam - Muhammad and his small band of followers left Mecca for Yathrib (Medina). The population then consisted of polytheistic clans, of Jewish tribes that had long been established in Arabia, and Arabs converted to Judaism. ...

The arrival of Muhammad and his followers provoked no opposition from the Jews. ...

In 624 Muhammad, joined by more followers, called upon the Qaynuqa, one of the Jewish tribes of Medina, to recognize his prophetic mission. When they refused, he besieged and overcame them. On the intercession of one of their protectors - a recent convert to Islam - their lives were spared, but they were expelled from the city, their lands and a part of their possessions being confiscated by the Muslims. The following year the Jewish Nadir tribe suffered a similar fate: Muhammad burned down their palm groves and divided all their fields and houses among the community of Believers. [footnote]

In 627 the Meccans sent a united force to lay siege to the Muslims in Medina, but they withdrew suddenly on a stormy night without fighting. However, guided by the angel Gabriel, Muhammad then turned his host against the Jewish tribe of the Qurayza who had been neutral during the seige. Because the Jews refused conversion, Muhammad attacked and overwhelmed them. Trenches were then dug in the marketplace of Medina, and the Jews - six to nine hundred of them, according to traditional Muslim sources - were led forth in batches and decapitated. All the menfolk perished in this way, with the exception of one convert to Islam. The Prophet then divided the women, children, houses, and chattels among the Muslims.[footnote]

... In 628, taking advantage of a treaty of nonbelligerency (Hudaybiya) with the Meccans[footnote], he attacked the oasis of Khaybar, one hundred and forty kilometers northwest of Medina, cultivated by another Jewish tribe. The assailants came to the oasis at night and in the morning attacked the peasants as they were coming out to work in the fields, carrying spades and baskets.[footnote] Their palm groves were burned down. After a siege lasting month and a half, the inhabitants surrendered under the terms of a treaty known as the dhimma. According to the agreement Muhammad allowed the Jews to continue cultivating their oasis, on the condition that they ceded to him half of their produce; he also reserved the right to break the agreement and expel them whenever he wished.[footnote] Subsequently, all the Jewish and Christian communities of Arabia submitted to the Muslims under the terms of a dhimma similar to that granted at Khaybar. ...

[dennisw]

As intense as they are, they are no excuse for climbing down with the animals and engaging in ethnic cleansing. That is the path to hate and barbarism.

Go preach this in MuslimLand and see if you last 24 hours. Muslims are the supreme ethnic cleansers of Christians, Jews and other Muslims of the wrong Muslim sect and/or ethnic group. This is the bloody Muslim heritage you salute. Mother's milk for the Jihadistas and the Bin Ladens of this world.

[uncbob]

Forget all this BIBLE/KORAN argument
The real deal is O I L

Use our coal drill in Alaska and off shore and tell the Middle East SO LONG
Arabs Turks Jews Persians fight it out and call us when it is over but the phones may be busy

[Patria One]

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[Fiddlstix]

BUMP

[Patria One]

Why don't you look in the records and see. Saudi Arabia for instance, declared war on Hitler in 1939.

[dennisw]

Gooood points!

[Patria One]

1945 - Feb. 23 - Turkey and Egypt declare war against Axis.

[dennisw]

hey skunk!

[Lent]

The former Grand Mufti conspired with the Nazis for the mass murder of all Jews who were in what was then Palestine (which is the only real Palestine, since the concept of a "Palestinian (Arab) people" is yet another muslim lie). He also helped organize Nazi military units in the Balkans of "Bosnian" muslims and Kosovo Shiptars (together with other Albanian muslims) to murder thousands of Serbs, Roma, Jews, and others.

The Arab/Muslim Nazi Connection
Turning the West Bank into another "Bosnia" (Photo Album)

As things are going, if Netanyahu 
succeeds...  The area will be like Bosnia.
-- Palestinian Authority Minister of
Justice Freih Abu Meddien

"The era of interim agreements," said Ben-Ami, 
"is dead. It only exists in the imagination.  The Palestinians 
have absolutely no faith in interim agreements, for their 
reasons. We are also opposed to them. They have only
given birth to terror and to a Bosnia-like situation 
(in the territories)."
-- Israeli Foreign Minister Shlomo Ben-Ami

Although there was ample proof to arrest him 
[Hajj Amin al Husseini] as a war criminal after 
the war, the Allies made no effort to do so... Yugoslavia, 
asked for his extradition... but the Arab League and the
Egyptian government succeeded in having the 
demand tabled
-- Encyclopedia of the Holocaust

Bosnian Moslems recruited by the 
Grand Mufti Hajj Amin al Husseini (Arafat's 'Uncle'¹) to serve in the ranks of the German Waffen-SS.

The following pictures take place in Bosnia, two years after the Grand Mufti Hajj Amin al Husseini (blood relative of both the current Temple Mount Mufti and Yasser Arafat) launched an unsuccessful pro-Nazi coup in Iraq. In that coup, an Iranian - Khayrallah Tulfah - was jailed for four years for his pro-Nazi activities.  He wrote a booklet called  "Three Whom God Should Not Have Created: Iranians, Jews, and Flies.", which was later distributed by the Ministry of Education of Iraq.  In 1947, Khayrallah Tulfah gave a home to his sister's ten year old son, an orphan.  His name was Saddam Hussein.

In the 1990's. the Christian Serbs later sought retribution for what they claimed were "massive war crimes" by the Islamic Bosnians during World War II, during the Bosnian-Croatian war in former Yugoslavia.

 

	Bosnian Moslems wearing fezzes with Nazi insignia Under the initiative of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem-a powerful Moslem leader exiled in Berlin-Bosnian Moslems volunteered to serve in the ranks of the German Waffen-SS. Their special uniform combined Nazi with Moslem elements Date: 1943
	The Grand Mufti inspects Moslem SS units Under Husseini's initiative and supervision, Yugoslavian Moslem volunteer units-called "Handjar" (Sword)-joined the German Waffen-SS. They fought Yugoslav partisans in Bosnia and massacred Bosnians and Croatian Jews. Date: 1943 Era: During WWII
	Bosnian Moslems who volunteered to the German army Thousands of Bosnian Moslems responded to the Mufti's call and volunteered to serve in the German army. The volunteers wore special uniforms; the Nazi insignia decorated their fezzes (typical moslem hat). Date: 1943
	Nazis review Bosnian Moslem volunteers to the Waffen-SS In the spring of 1943, Bosnian Moslems, responding to their Mufti's call, volunteered to serve in the German army. They formed their own battalions within the ranks of the Waffen-SS. The Germans publicized the Moslem-German collaboration. Date: 1943
	Bosnian Moslem soldiers in the German army, at prayer Hajj Amin al Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, allied himself with Nazi Germany. While exiled in Berlin and sponsored by Nazi agencies, he brought to the creation of Moslem battalions within the German Waffen-SS. Date: 1943
	Hajj Amin al-Husseini with Bosnian Moslem fighters Husseini flew from Berlin to Sarajevo to bless the Moslem army inspect its arms and observe its exercises. Husseini's army in Croatia was comprised of some 20,000 Bosnian Moslems, all of whom volunteered to serve in the German Waffen-SS.
	Bosnian Moslems who volunteered to the German army Moslems living in Bosnia, Yugoslavia, responded to the call of the exiled grand Mufti of Jerusalem and enlisted as volunteers in the German army. Seen here are uniformed volunteers holding a propaganda brochure: "Islam and Judaism." Date: 1943
	Bosnian Moslems as volunteers in the German army Hajj Amin al Husseini-the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem exiled in Berlin-planned to create a strong Arabic army and to put it at the disposal of the Axis powers. Eventually, he succeeded in forming Moslem units within the German Waffen-SS. Date: 1943
	Close-up of Nazi officers reviewing Moslem volunteers Closeup of "Responding to the initiative of the exiled Grand Mufti of Jerusalem", the Germans created separate Moslem battalions within the Waffen-SS. Here, unidentified Nazi dignitaries review the new recruits. Date: 1943
	Bosnian Moslem soldiers in the German army during prayer During the spring of 1943, some 20,000 Moslem Bosnians responded to the Mufti's call to join the German Waffen-SS. The Moslem volunteers, who served in separate units named "Handjar" (Sword), actively participated in war operations. Date: 1943

Grand Mufti of Jerusalem One of the most prominent Arab leaders in Palestine and the Middle East. Some believe that Husseini's collaboration with the Germans was designed to obtain support for Arab national goals from a power that seemed to have good prospects for winning the war. Others link his sympathy for Nazi Germany to his enthusiasim for its anti-Jewish policies, particularly, the Final Solution. Some even perceive a general ideological affinity between totalitarian Fascist and Nazi theories and Islam, as conceived by Husseini. Pre - War Contacts with the Nazis After he had broken with Britain, Husseini sent two emissaries to Berlin to make concrete proposals for collaboration. This occurred in December 1937 and in May 1939. As a result, Wilhelm Canaris, chief of the Abwehr supported the Arab uprising in Palestine. Husseini's Fate is Linked with the Fascist Powers When World War II broke out, Husseini fled to Iraq, where he contributed to the planning of the pro-Nazi revolt. When the revolt was quelled, he went into exile, first in Italy and then in Germany. From October 1941, Husseini linked his fate with the fascist powers. He also was in touch with the Japanese. He sought to pursue Arab national political goals and lend his support to the Final Solution. For the former he set three main goals: the issuance of a joint German-Italian declaration recognizing the independence of the Arab nations and their unity in federation; the establishment of a center for Arab sabotage and propaganda, under his control; and the formation of an Arab army to fight on the Axis side. The German foreign minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop did not make the declaration Husseini wanted, but in a private letter said much of what Husseini wanted to hear regarding Arabs states under British auspices. Neither did the mufti create the center he had in mind, but he did link himself with Axis intelligence. To demonstrate their support for the idea, the Germans dropped two Arab parachutists over Jericho and five over Mosul, Iraq. Husseini's plan to form an Arab legion failed to gain much response. As of 1942, a small German-Arab training section was created, with 130 men. In November 1944, the Arab legion was set up, but it existed mostly on paper. A Moslem Leader in the Service of the Nazis Husseini's contribution to the Axis war effort was more successful in his capacity as a Moslem leader. He recruited and organized Bosnian Muslim battalions in 1943, known as the Handjar (Sword), who were put into the Waffen-SS. They fought partisans in Bosnia, participated in the massacre of civilians there, and carried out police and security duties in Hungary. Husseini also helped boost the fighting morale of the Ostbattaillone. Husseini's Support of the Final Solution Husseini's men attended SS training courses and visited Sachsenhausen. At an early stage the mufti was aware of the extermination of the Jews and he tried to persuade the Axis to extend the extermination to North Africa and Palestine. He also repeatedly proprosed the Luftwaffe bomb Tel Aviv. When he found out that efforts were underway to save Jews by means of various barter arrangements, he did all he could to foil them. After the War - Evading Prosecution When the war ended, Husseini was arrested in France, but in June 1946, he escaped and made his way to asylum in Egypt. Although there was ample proof to arrest him as a war criminal after the war, the Allies made no effort to do so. They were deterred by Husseini's prestige in the Arab world. In 1946, Yugoslavia, asked for his extradition, but the Arab League and the Egyptian government succeeded in having the demand tabled. "Encyclopedia of the Holocaust" ©1990 Macmillan Publishing Company New York, NY 10022 Source (both Pictures and Text):     http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/pages/t031/t03148.html     Museum of Tolerance, Multimedia Learning Center Copyright © 1997, The Simon Wiesenthal Center, 1. The Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini was later the notorious Nazi who mixed Nazi propaganda and Islam.  He was wanted for war crimes and the slaughter of Jews in Bosnia by Yugoslavia.  His mix of militant propagandizing Islam was an inspriation for both Yasser Arafat and Saddam Husein: He was also a close relative of Yasser Arafat and grandfather of the current Temple Mount Mufti. "Arafat's actual name was Abd al-Rahman abd al-Bauf Arafat al-Qud al-Husseini. He shortened it to obscure his kinship with the notorious Nazi and ex-Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Muhammed Amin al-Husseini." Howard M. Sachar, A HISTORY OF ISRAEL (New York: Knopf, 1976).  The Bet Agron International Center in Jerusalem interviewed Arafat's brother and sister, who described the Mufti as a cousin (family member) with tremendous influence on young Yassir after the Mufti returned from Berlin to Cairo. Yasser Arafat himself keeps his exact lineage and birthplace secret.  Saddam Hussein was raised in the house of his uncle Khayrallah Tulfah, who was a leader in the Mufti's pro-Nazi coup in Iraq in May 1941. This page was produced by Joseph E. Katz Middle Eastern Political and Religious History Analyst  Brooklyn, New York  E-mail to a friend Portions Copyright © 2001 Joseph Katz All Rights Reserved

 

[Patria One]

What happened to the thread? Did you mean to do that?

[Orual]

#12

[dennisw]

Mohammed’s continual railing against idolatry and immorality threatened the trade flowing in from the pagan pilgrimage to Mecca, which enraged the city’s merchants. Mohammed and his followers were forced to flee north to the city Medina in 622, an event that became known as the Hegira (“night journey,” “ascension,” “flight”), which marks the beginning of the Islamic calendar. In Medina Mohammed drew more followers, whom he gradually organized into a military force. They raided caravans along the trade route to Mecca, and in 630 CE Mohammed’s forces gained control of Mecca, after which it became the center of the new religion.

[dennisw]

Islam spread rapidly over a large area because of its appeal to the poor. Like Christianity, it had an equalizing message—all are equal in the eyes of Allah. Mohammed made no claim to divinity, nor did his followers make such a claim. He was a political and military leader as well as a spiritual leader, and during his life Islam spread through conquest. Mohammed died in 632; Islam continued to spread after his death under the leadership of the Caliphs, Mohammed’s successors.

[dennisw]

The center of the Islamic faith is the Arabian Peninsula characterized by desert and grasslands. Herding was historically the most important aspect of the region’s economy, carried on by Arabic nomads or bedouins scattered in separate clan/tribe groupings. Two predominant powers, the Byzantine and Persian empires, dominated the Middle East in the 6th century CE. Persia, North Africa, and the Arabian Peninsula were non-Christian followers of polytheistic religions, and many cities along the Middle Eastern trade routes developed reputations for drinking, fighting, and prostitution. Mecca itself had become a center of pagan belief, as hundreds migrated there each year on a pilgrimage to the ancient granite, rectangular stone in the city’s center, the Ka’ba, which was worshipped as a holy site and dominated by pagan statues and idols.

[operation clinton cleanup]

The Arabs have squandered thier oil money. I think that they realize the golden goose is running low on eggs. Fuel cell cars and Caspian Sea oil is going to make the mid-east oil kingdoms obsolete in 5 years. This is Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and Iran's last gasp.

[dighton]

Why don't you look in the records and see. Saudi Arabia for instance, declared war on Hitler in 1939.

Bluff called.

During World War II Ibn Sa'ud declared his neutrality, though his personal bias in favor of the western allies was never in doubt. In 1945 he somewhat reluctantly agreed to declare war on Germany, and was thus able to take his country into the United Nations organization as a founder member.

-- Encyclopaedia Britannica, 1966.

[Lent]

What happened to the thread? Did you mean to do that?.

Yep, 'Patria One':  
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[contessa machiaveli]

the transformation has already begun. i thank you.