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Building the case against Iraq
telegraph uk ^ | 10/26/01

Posted on 10/25/2001 11:23:33 PM PDT by knak

THE Taliban regime may be the current target in America's war on terrorism but the Bush administration is already building a case against a much bigger foe - Iraq.

James Woolsey, a former director of the CIA, ambassador and Pentagon official who now describes himself as a "private citizen", is the man entrusted with investigating Iraqi involvement in the September 11 attacks and anthrax outbreaks.

The Iraqi National Congress, the exiled group that opposes Saddam Hussein, said it recently held meetings in London with Mr Woolsey. Administration sources have said his trip was funded and approved by Paul Wolfowitz, the deputy defence secretary.

Such is the sensitivity of the Iraq issue, Mr Woolsey will make no comment about the exact nature of his brief. He told The Telegraph: "I was in London and that's it."

But he made clear that he believed there were "substantial and growing indications" that a state was behind the attacks.

The milled, "weaponised" anthrax that virtually shut down Congress and killed two postal workers has increased his suspicions. So too have reports of meetings involving Mohammad Atta, a leading hijacker, in Prague.

Atta travelled to the Czech Republic at least twice and was refused entry to Prague airport on another occasion.

According to the Wall Street Journal, on one occasion Atta was observed meeting Ahmed Khalil Samir al-Ani, an Iraqi diplomat subsequently expelled for spying.

Mr Woolsey said: "I doubt very seriously if this was simply a social relationship or that they liked to drink Czech beer together."

It has also emerged this week that intelligence reports have stated that Osama bin Laden sent an al-Qa'eda delegation to Baghdad on April 25, 1998 to attend Saddam's birthday celebration.

Saddam's son Uday, it is claimed, agreed to train al-Qa'eda recruits and establish a joint force of bin Laden's elite fighters and the Iraqi intelligence unit 999.

All this, Mr Woolsey, said, made it imperative that America "should look under that rock" to establish whether Iraq helped al-Qa'eda to carry out the September 11 or anthrax attacks.

He said: "If a state is involved, obviously it seems to me to be important for us to know whom we're at war with."

Focusing solely on proof that would be admissible in a court of law would be a mistake.

He said: "Hearsay is not admissible as evidence and almost all intelligence is hearsay. Evidentiary standards are the wrong standards. I would talk about indications, information."

He added: "The United States has not yet decided it is at war with Saddam Hussein but Saddam Hussein may have decided he is at war with the United States."

The Clinton administration, he said, had had "a propensity sometimes to reason backwards from public relations to policy, to the facts one was looking at".

This had resulted in the question of Iraqi involvement in the World Trade Centre bombing of 1993 being pushed aside.

In Washington, the debate over global terrorism was continuing to develop as the effects of the anthrax attacks grow more serious.

Having suffered thousands of civilian casualties, most Americans would prefer a pre-emptive strike against a known enemy such as Saddam than risk a biological or chemical attack that could kill tens of thousands.

Mr Woolsey said: "We ought to seriously consider removing Saddam's regime, if he has been involved in any terror in recent years against us."

Saddam had attempted to assassinate President Bush Snr in 1993. He had also defied UN mandates by developing weapons of mass destruction. He added: "In my judgment that's enough."

President Clinton's response to the assassination attempt was "to shoot some Cruise missiles back into empty buildings in the middle of the night" but this type of limited, ineffective action had been discredited by September 11.

Mr Woolsey said: "Some of the states, such as Iraq, and some of the people, such as bin Laden, saw our behaviour over the last decade or two and may have a false impression that they can bludgeon the United States into submission.

He added: "I think some day - hopefully soon - they will come to the same conclusion that Admiral Yamamoto did after Pearl Harbor, which was to remark that Japan had awakened a sleeping giant.

" If the government chooses, based on the information that it has, to take military action against any other state outside Afghanistan, I believe that the world will see our reaction in that case will be ruthless, relentless and devastating.

He concluded: "In the American vernacular - you ain't seen nothing yet."

Coming from the man entrusted with gathering that "information", Saddam would perhaps be well advised to mark Mr Woolsey's words.


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1 posted on 10/25/2001 11:23:33 PM PDT by knak
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To: knak
Iraq must be dealt with. We either do it now or wait until a nuclear weapon is detonated on our soil and then do it. I vote to take care of business before that happens.
2 posted on 10/25/2001 11:27:26 PM PDT by Brett66
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To: JohnHuang2; Squantos; harpseal; blam; Lent; patent; FITZ; Manny Festo; Sabertooth
Very Important Post.
3 posted on 10/25/2001 11:30:44 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: knak
Two words which I haven't heard any administration official use for many days:

Iraq. (The country seems to have vanished from the map)

crop-dusters. (What are they?)

I wonder why?

4 posted on 10/25/2001 11:32:51 PM PDT by Nogbad
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To: Brett66
Given the extreme gravity of the situation we now face, I would like to wake up and hear that all of Saddam's palaces, bunkers, and chemical and biological warfare stockpiles had been nuked, and a state of Martial Law imposed until we have succeeded in policing our borders and rounding up all Iraqi agents on US soil.

I can dream, can't I?

5 posted on 10/25/2001 11:35:44 PM PDT by Clinton's a rapist
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To: Travis McGee
Bill O'Reilly interviewed Mr. Woolsey on Wednesday's factor. Bill's interview is the basis of this article.

Bill extracted much more information.

6 posted on 10/25/2001 11:37:07 PM PDT by onyx
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To: knak; CheneyChick; vikingchick; WIMom; one_particular_harbour; kmiller1k; Victoria Delsoul...

Mr Woolsey said: "Some of the states, such as Iraq, and some of the people, such as bin Laden, saw our behaviour over the last decade or two and may have a false impression that they can bludgeon the United States into submission.

He added: "I think some day - hopefully soon - they will come to the same conclusion that Admiral Yamamoto did after Pearl Harbor, which was to remark that Japan had awakened a sleeping giant.

"If the government chooses, based on the information that it has, to take military action against any other state outside Afghanistan, I believe that the world will see our reaction in that case will be ruthless, relentless and devastating.

He concluded: "In the American vernacular - you ain't seen nothing yet."

BUMP
7 posted on 10/25/2001 11:43:09 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: knak

In the penultimate paragraph Mylroie concludes: "Given how decisive America's defeat of Iraq seemed in 1991, Saddam has accomplished a significant part of his program. He has secured the critical goal of ending UN weapons inspections, and he is now free to rebuild an arsenal of unconventional armaments. he has also succeeded in thoroughly confusing America as to the nature of the terrorist threat it has faced since the World Trade Center bombing. He is free, it would appear, to carry out more terrorist attacksãpossibly even unconventional terrorism, as long as he can make it appear to be the work of a loose network of Muslim extremists." And thus Laurie Mylroie predicts Saddam Hussein will continue to attack American citizens and interests. At a minimum, we should expect attempted bombings and other attacks in the year 2001 and beyond. And so, the question about Saddam Hussein remains, what is to be done?

8 posted on 10/25/2001 11:45:22 PM PDT by Clinton's a rapist
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To: knak
So if we read all the signals, it appears Iraq will suffer a big attack, by the US. To avoid inflaming world opinion, we are trying to avoid civilian casualties in Afghanistan.

How will we mount an attack, to take down the Iraqi government, without massive civilian casualties? How can we be sure, to get Saddam once and for all?

What short of nuclear, can be devastating? Would we REALLY go nuclear?

9 posted on 10/26/2001 12:07:00 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker
To bust those bunkers, it will have to be nuclear. Nothing else will do it. And going nuclear will send the right message. Think how many millions of lives would have been saved in World War II if we had had the ability to respond to Pearl Harbor with A-bombs right away, instead of after four years of bloody conflict, death camps cranking away, etc. Nukes are the way to go.
10 posted on 10/26/2001 12:14:26 AM PDT by Clinton's a rapist
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To: knak
I am confident the President will deal with Iraq. Besides, the scriptures are quite clear that we will!
11 posted on 10/26/2001 12:45:52 AM PDT by Sueann
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To: Nogbad
Two words which I haven't heard any administration official use for many days: Iraq. (The country seems to have vanished from the map) crop-dusters. (What are they?) I wonder why?

A flair for the dramtic aren't you?

I also haven't heard the words, deficit spending, social security lockbox, decrease in defence spending. I wonder why?

12 posted on 10/26/2001 1:18:12 AM PDT by snodog
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To: Travis McGee
Thanks for the ping, amigo. Bookmarking
13 posted on 10/26/2001 2:27:46 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: knak
"In the American vernacular - you ain't seen nothing yet."

I'm anxious.

14 posted on 10/26/2001 4:05:58 AM PDT by blam
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To: Sabertooth
Thanks for the flag.

However, I'm sick of being fed stuff like "Iraq guilty/not guilty" and "anthrax weaponized/not weaponized".

Fro now on, I'm getting all of my news from Vanity Posts.

15 posted on 10/26/2001 4:16:37 AM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Travis McGee
btt
17 posted on 10/26/2001 6:15:22 AM PDT by harpseal
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To: Sabertooth
Thanks for the pingy dingy thingy and a ruthless BUMP!
18 posted on 10/26/2001 6:40:51 AM PDT by MaeWest
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To: Clinton's a rapist
To bust those bunkers, it will have to be nuclear. Nothing else will do it. And going nuclear will send the right message. Think how many millions of lives would have been saved in World War II if we had had the ability to respond to Pearl Harbor with A-bombs right away, instead of after four years of bloody conflict, death camps cranking away, etc. Nukes are the way to go.
Kill ‘em all, let God sort them out? We have the ability to meet this threat without becoming as inhuman as they are.

patent  +AMDG

19 posted on 10/26/2001 7:28:03 AM PDT by patent
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To: Sueann
I am confident the President will deal with Iraq. Besides, the scriptures are quite clear that we will!
1 Sueann 3:19 “And on the third month after the bombing, the ruler of a great nation not yet created will strike and deal with the ruler of another nation not yet created.”

I guess I'm trying to say, why are the Scriptures quite clear that we will deal with Iraq?

patent  +AMDG

20 posted on 10/26/2001 7:30:41 AM PDT by patent
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