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Will Osama Appear In Pakistan?
Travis McGee | October 25, 2001 | Travis McGee

Posted on 10/25/2001 8:30:14 AM PDT by Travis McGee

I have come up with what I think is going to happen next in the ongoing drama. Forgive this vanity post, but I think the idea demands discussion in advance of the possible event.

I think OBL is heading for Karachi or Islamabad.

He will stay in Pakistan because it has nukes and medium range rockets, is unstable and ready to blow up like Iran in 79, and of course is closest to Afghanistan for covert travel ease. He wants to be seen as the Mahdi, (Moslem messiah, the next Prophet of Allah) and to do that he needs the adoring masses, and proof that he has humiliated and beaten the Great Satan (and the lackey sell-out government of Musharraf). His "miraculous" escape from under the Amriki bombers and his secret journey to Pakistan will "prove" that the Hand of Allah is protecting and guiding him.

To ensure his safety he will at all times be surrounded by millions of fanatics in densely packed slums where we can not bomb him or send in troops. The micro-model for this will be "Blackhawk Down", the Battle of Mogadishu where (in the Moslem view) they won a great victory and drove the USA out of Somalia. Al Q'aida was instrumental in that battle, particularly by introducing modified anti-helicopter time-fused air-bursting RPGs, and the tactics which led to the shootdowns of several US helicopters, which caused the simple half hour Delta/Ranger "snatch" raid to spin out of control into a furious day and night long battle.

Every day that OBL is loose, appearing like a Super Pope on balconies in front of 100s of thousands of adoring jihadists, his power and influence worldwide will soar like a moon rocket. He will have the 24/7 attention of the entire world media for his every pronouncement, and then he can "ascend" into heaven proving he is truly the Mahdi. Even if we drop a smart bomb on his balcony, he "ascends to heaven" and wins.

If we dare to risk a helicopter/ground attack into the teeming slums to capture or kill him, he will get his "super battle of Mogadishu", which will suit his purpose by killing countless thousands of Moslem noncombatants, driving the entire Moslem world instantly into a world war on America.

And of course any smart bomb we dared to use to kill OBL will kill hundreds of adoring moslem children, proving what bloodthirsty butchers the infidels are.

Even if snipers or or precision fired Hellfire rockets "take him out" on his balcony, we may only kill an OBL double, allowing "the Mahdi" to be "resurrected from the dead" for new appearances, driving his power and influence still higher into the stratosphere.

This scenario has been his ultimate goal all along I believe. I wonder if anyone at the NSC, CIA , NSA or DOS has prepared a counter move to this very possible, even likely, scenario?


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To: Dukie
When the time comes there will be plenty of work to go arround for all here in the USA who value America. I surely will not be questioning you.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

241 posted on 11/01/2001 10:57:45 AM PST by harpseal
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To: Sender
Except Sender, if Osama did take over Pak and it's nukes it would become the third actual combat target ever nuked. Not such a bad thing after all and who would complain that could do anything about it? India and Russia would not give two hoots if that happened. China might be bugged by it but what could they really do?
242 posted on 11/01/2001 6:16:50 PM PST by JSteff
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To: Travis McGee
Link:

Do you believe in the Mahdi?

Scary stuff.

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243 posted on 11/01/2001 9:37:49 PM PST by ppaul
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To: Sabertooth; *taliban_list
Thanks for the Link!

To find all articles tagged or indexed using taliban_list

Click here: taliban_list

246 posted on 11/13/2001 6:40:22 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Sabertooth
bttt
247 posted on 11/16/2001 1:14:19 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
>>>Musharraf will not last long (days? hours?) in power if "The Mahdi" orders his millions to march on the presidential palace and kill the traitors to Allah.<<<

Trav, far be it from me to question your judgement on these things because you have a damn fine track record - but I think you may just be undersimating Musharraf and the number of Muslim fanatics in Packi willing to cross Musharraf's "new" ISI.

He showed a pretty strong hand by leaving the country (for the U.S. no less) shortly after firing the former Muslim fanatic ISI chief and detaining a leading Muslim cleric responsible for the more violent uprisings. This guy is no pushover. A couple of bullets in the foreheads of major Osama supporters may just get the message across and make the "devout" think aboout the reward on Osama's head rather than dying for him.

Be interested in your opinion of the above.

248 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:17 PM PST by HardStarboard
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To: HardStarboard
My opinion of Musharraf's and OBL's relative strengths and weaknesses has changed a lot in the 2 weeks since I wrote this. I hope the OBL is blown to bits by hellfire missiles, and I don't think he will have an easy time getting to the conceptual "balcony in Karachi" in one piece. Still, there's an outside chance of it happening, so we should have a plan ready in case it happens.
249 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:18 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Sabertooth
bttt
250 posted on 11/16/2001 7:56:11 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Duke1983
That's possible, although I suspect only the hard core true believers will still be dressing like Osama. Most will be clean shaven with western attire on!
252 posted on 11/20/2001 8:15:54 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Duke1983
I thought that the stature of most Arabic men was smaller than Owama's extraordinary height!

I would question that the could as many as 10 that matched him in that particular detail.

253 posted on 11/20/2001 9:29:20 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Owawab , osama whatever!!!
254 posted on 11/20/2001 9:30:08 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The Pathans in the NW Frontier Province area are very tall and thin. I don't know what their average height is but they are tall enough that OBL could blend in.
Btw, it is interesting there is someone posting now with the screen name 'Pathan'.
255 posted on 11/20/2001 10:42:26 AM PST by MaeWest
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To: Duke1983; Travis McGee
To continue the jihad, I'm confident that bin Laden & dupes would shed the bedouin attire, just as the Sept 11 gang did here.
256 posted on 11/20/2001 3:16:38 PM PST by Dukie
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To: Dukie
I think that Osama's image is all important to him, and the damage done to his cause would be too great if he was captured in western attire and clean shaved. He has to make a clean getaway to his slum full of worshippers, or die in a blaze of glory. A capture under humiliating conditions would destroy his mystique and his movement.
257 posted on 11/20/2001 3:33:46 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Sabertooth
I'm back, where's Osama?
258 posted on 11/25/2001 7:29:33 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
He's running late, isn't he.


259 posted on 11/25/2001 7:32:15 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Travis McGee
If he is going to appear in Pakistan he had better hurry,
cause the marines are on the ground in Kandahar!!
260 posted on 11/25/2001 7:35:35 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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