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US Strips Jewish Army Major of Security Clearance
Jerusalem Post ^

Posted on 10/23/2001 8:52:57 AM PDT by RCW2001

US strips Jewish army major of security clearance
By Arieh O'Sullivan

The US Army has revoked the security clearance of a Jewish reserve major, forcing him to give up command of an intelligence unit, The Jerusalem Post has learned.

The officer claims the action was for no other reason other than his close ties and affiliation to Israel. He said this reflected an inherent anti-Semitism in the US intelligence community.

Maj. Shawn Pine, commander of the 300th Military Intelligence Company (Linguist) of Austin, Texas, holds dual US-Israeli citizenship and is also an IDF veteran of the Golani Brigade as well as the elite US Army Rangers.

Pine, a specialist in counterintelligence, said he was given top-secret clearance after going through a detailed background investigation and polygraph in 1991.

Born in the United States, Pine immigrated to Israel with his family at the age of 17 in the late 1970s. He was conscripted into the IDF and served three years in the Golani Brigade. But after his discharge, he returned to America for university studies. He chose a military career and served nine years as an officer in active duty in the US Army.

"It is not like my service and affiliation with Israel was kept a secret. I have always been very forthcoming in disclosing all of my interactions with Israel," Pine said.

"As with many Americans, the events of September 11th reinvigorated my sense of patriotism," Pine said. "But rather than try to utilize my experience and education, the US intelligence community is mired in a paranoid abyss in which it perceives every Jew to be Jonathan Pollard."


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1 posted on 10/23/2001 8:52:57 AM PDT by RCW2001
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To: RCW2001
Good grief! We need Israeli intel to help us! This is insane! We need to increase Israeli intel with our own money. Good grief.
2 posted on 10/23/2001 8:56:36 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
No, this is not a good grief. The United States needs people who are 100% loyal to the USA first and only to the USA. If this guy has the opportunity to pass sensitive intelligence data to another government, which he would in this case as he is way too close to Israel. I support Israel also, however, we do not even tell the British, Germans, etc, everything we know and do. If this guy is a possible security risk, then so be it, pull his clearance.
3 posted on 10/23/2001 8:59:45 AM PDT by RetiredArmy
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To: RCW2001
Sad, but not uncommon. It's not anti-semitism though, it's basic power competition within the armed forces. Someone wanted his position and made an argument to have him lose his position. The same argument was made against Presidential candidate Kennedy for being a Catholic having secret ties with the Vatican. Anti-semitism in the US is more a matter of black muslim anti-semites or leftists more than whites or US armed forces.
4 posted on 10/23/2001 9:00:25 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: RCW2001
First sign of trouble, the guy goes to the Israeli press? What took us so long? He should be drummed out completely.
5 posted on 10/23/2001 9:03:29 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: RCW2001; zion_ist
This Is Stupid!
Jewish or Not.... He's well trained. Let Him do the Job he has been trained to do!

One other thing... Since when is Israel our enemy?
Last Time I checked... They are on our side!
6 posted on 10/23/2001 9:03:51 AM PDT by Fiddlstix
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To: RCW2001
Any reserve major who goes public with a complaint about the level of his security clearance, implying racism, should probably be granted a very low level of clearance, if any.
7 posted on 10/23/2001 9:03:56 AM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: RCW2001
Disturbing
8 posted on 10/23/2001 9:06:36 AM PDT by MoJo2001
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To: Kennard
Very aptly put!
9 posted on 10/23/2001 9:06:58 AM PDT by Diogenes
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To: Mr. Bird
First sign of trouble, the guy goes to the Israeli press? What took us so long? He should be drummed out completely.
I agree. The apparent tendency to grant press interviews doesn’t fit well with a top security clearance.

patent  +AMDG

10 posted on 10/23/2001 9:08:39 AM PDT by patent
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To: RetiredArmy
Oh! And you think Christian Clinton and his liberal US trailer trash cohorts were better? I don't think so.

But here is the crux of it. The crux of it is emotions getting in the way of military structures. Just as women and gays should not serve in ships or in combat because they could go AWOL with a general while the country is at war, we should have no affirmative action and leftist college boys going in the US armed forces.

As for Jews, if there were a holocaust in Israel, and the US armed forces had for tactical and strategical reasons to sit there and do nothing while it would happen, I would not like to have Jews around to see that happening because I know most Jews would not stand it and not be able to see that national security and the union are above holocaustic catastrophies. That is why Lincoln refused to go to war for the slaves, but however saw that the South was developing terror tendencies against the Northerners as they were siding with England and the slave trade powers.

By the current standards of accepting gays and women in the military, I find this action against a Jew to be a double standard. However, let us make things clear, certain mixtures in the military do not apply. It is no multicultural pic-nic out there in war.

War is hell, what can I say, we cannot discuss about discrimination in military circles, but this is what 8 years of Clintonism has lead to.

11 posted on 10/23/2001 9:09:24 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: Kennard
Absolutely. This is absurd. Obviously, as the commander of a MI unit, he had a TS clearance at some point, which means the Army knew about his Israeli service and dual citizenship. Apparently, that was not a problem then, but something changed. It is clear that there is more to this story than the whining major lets on.
12 posted on 10/23/2001 9:10:38 AM PDT by Stingray51
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To: RetiredArmy
"Maj. Shawn Pine... holds dual US-Israeli citizenship..."

That's funny... aren't members of the US military sworn in with an oath that contains the phrase
"preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States"?

13 posted on 10/23/2001 9:12:01 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Fiddlstix
Actually it's not stupid at all. In fact, I would think that under the current threat conditions that ALL armed forces personnel of dual citizenship, whether it be Israel, UK, or whatever, would be screened very closely. It's not racism or anti-semitism. It is about security. And, since this individual chose to release this and complain to the world (via Israel) press, I see no reason why he should have a security clearance at all.

Also, am I not mistaken, but is this the same officer who went AWOL a few months back and was found in Israel? If this is the case, then not only does he need to be stripped of security clearances, but also be courtmartialed.

15 posted on 10/23/2001 9:13:48 AM PDT by fogarty
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To: Fiddlstix
One other thing... Since when is Israel our enemy?

Last Time I checked... They are on our side!

Israel is on Israel's side. Dont forget that. All countries are for themselves first. That is their job.

16 posted on 10/23/2001 9:14:53 AM PDT by mlmr
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
I read this piece on another web site. I understand he has dual-citizenship, Israel and the US. Wouldn't this fact alone give pause to giving him a clearance?
17 posted on 10/23/2001 9:20:03 AM PDT by Don Myers
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To: Fiddlstix
"Jewish or Not.... He's well trained. Let Him do the Job he has been trained to do!"

Pollard, The Walker Gang, Ames, Hannsen, Benedict Arnold, the muslim US army sargeant (whose name is probably Al Mohammed or something like that) that was involved in the embassy bombings, were all well trained too. If the experts are concerned then let them do the job they were trained to do. This is war time and when we err let it be on the side of caution.

18 posted on 10/23/2001 9:24:04 AM PDT by putupon
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To: mijo
Anti-______is is the first refuge of any member of the ______ group or those groups led by the Reverend ______, or even those members of "Americans for _________."
19 posted on 10/23/2001 9:27:53 AM PDT by MindBender26
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To: Constitution Day; RetiredArmy
RA -

I know you must know this.
Just posting as FYI for others after I found it on the internet.

CD

OATHS OF ENLISTMENT and OATHS OF OFFICE

The wordings of the current oath of enlistment and oath for commissioned officers are as follows:

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
(Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

"I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God."
(DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)

20 posted on 10/23/2001 9:29:38 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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