[backhoe]

I don't think this kind of spin will do anything except alienate people further

I so hope you are right! If there is any justice ( and common sense ) left in this country, it will be so.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Firefighters are mostly conservative? They belong to unions. They are paid govt employees. If fire fighters are conservative, I find that very interesting. I know of fire fighters and their wives who lobbied door-to-door for Gary Condidit.