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Citizen Army/Citizen Alert
Self ^ | 10/21/2001 | MHGinTN

Posted on 10/21/2001 10:47:13 AM PDT by MHGinTN

Okay, it's time to get active, Freepers! As Lazamataz has said, 'We are 50,000 strong and a force to be reckoned with.'

He's right, ya know. We are a well connected army of eyes and ears. Here's a few things we can do in this war against terrorists in our country.

First, always take a camera with you when you leave the house to go shopping, take the kids to functions, go to work, in short, whenever you're going to be in the public sector. Why? Because a call to the FBI is one thing, but a call with photographs to document your story is far more with which the FBI or local law enforcement can work.

'Well,' you might say, 'Someone else is doing this, so I don't need to.' No, you and I are the someone else! This is our country. The FBI is under staffed, and I would prefer it stay that way. That means they can use some help in information gathering ... let them do the contact work, while we gather the data, and the better the data the better the contact potentials.

'Okay,' you might say, 'I'll take pictures if I see something my antenna says is suspicious, but what the heck do I do with that?' Well, don't just take pix, make a diary-type reference to your reason for taking the pix. Also, be mindful of things like tag numbers and any identifying characteristics you might see and/or record with the camera. It is a well know fact that witnesses don't remember as well as a 'frozen segment of time', a photograph.

You might wonder which citizens are the most likely to see suspicious things that a camera would help to nail, and I would answer everyone who goes into the public sector has the potential to see something suspicious. We Freepers could be more observant and more conscientious in our alert, and thus it might just be that we Freepers would have the camera and the foresight to record in pix and word what we and others see that is suspicious. Let's not leave it to someone else; let's take the initiative to be the ones doing the data collecting; I keep the FBI hotline number hanging from my puter desk, and I've used it once already.

Lastly, I say also go armed; if your state has a concealed carry permit, get one and learn to handle a personal defense weapon ... with the emphasis on personal defense, not law enforcement; the professionals are still our best resource when time permits; we're talking about collecting data, not killing suspects. The major emphasis ought be to collect data for the professionals who are over-worked and under-staffed for this crisis. It is our country, and we ought think enough of it to at least upgrade our alert status ... we are the eyes and ears of this nation's security on the domestic front.

If we expect our law enforcement people to be proactive instead of merely reactive, we have to give them the data to work with! Terrorist plan their strikes, sometimes for months or years. Until our national policy is wholesale deportation, we must be more alert to the planners and plotters, and we can do that without violating civil rights while asserting our responsibilities as citizens. Besides, if we expect people to be deported, it doesn't hurt to have pictures and descriptions of suspicious activity when the authorities get around to picking the deportees ... if loose lips sink ships, sharp eyes save lives.

I keep reading about how the Islamic community isn't supporting the terrorists, but until the Muslims of America begin to turn in the radicals, siditious, miscreants and criminals amongst them, we the people must get active in our own defense ... cameras with explanation of pictures is a great way to do it. I'm certain the Freeper family will now post FBI, CIA, and NSA phone numbers that can be used for contact when suspicious activity is seen and recorded. I would rather be mistaken 100 times and right one vital time than uninvolved and totally vulnerable. How about you, fellow Freeper?


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To: MHGinTN
Film in the camera, camera in the car! Better yet, I'll get one of those lightweight disposable ones that'll fit in my purse.
61 posted on 10/21/2001 3:29:31 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: ladygrace
Am I missing anything else? Please advise.

Notebook and pencil for license numbers and observations.

62 posted on 10/21/2001 3:35:43 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: MHGinTN
A quick calculation based on numbers heard on talk radio [use at your own risk] of terrorists, terrorist supporters, and terrorist sympathizers in America right now shows that even this community, which is the 750th largest population center in the country, has roughly 1200 such persons. Keep an eye out.
63 posted on 10/21/2001 3:57:16 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: MHGinTN
"There, now that wasn't so difficult was it?"

I quess that Sioux Falls is a pretty low-profile place. We don't even have a Costco Store. The horrors of it all...

64 posted on 10/21/2001 4:29:27 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: MHGinTN
Excellent head's up. BTTT for national security!
65 posted on 10/21/2001 4:40:10 PM PDT by March I up
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I didn't think about copying down license numbers because I thought most of them would have rental cars registered under the name of Yabba Dabba Doo...or whatever.
66 posted on 10/21/2001 4:50:45 PM PDT by ladygrace
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To: MHGinTN
Let US use the proper word for Citizen army:

MILITIA!!!

We the People are the Militia!

67 posted on 10/21/2001 5:00:31 PM PDT by t-shirt
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
This is my first post here so please go easy. Long time lurker, though. TAKE THE PICTURE, no worry about taking anyone's pic without their consent unless you violate their reasonable expectation of privacy (like taking it in a bathroom, bedroom, etc). I do it (surveillance) for a living. Great ideas everyone.
68 posted on 10/21/2001 5:03:39 PM PDT by Huggy
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To: ladygrace
I didn't think about copying down license numbers because I thought most of them would have rental cars registered under the name of Yabba Dabba Doo...or whatever.

Get the number. Even if it is rented under a fake name, the FBI might be able to gather valuable information. They will be able to lift finger prints from the vehicle after it is returned for example. Or better yet, a special agent can be waiting at the rental return desk to ask them a few questions when they come back.

69 posted on 10/21/2001 5:42:21 PM PDT by ConservativeLawyer
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To: MHGinTN
That's an excellent idea to keep a camera in your car. A cheap disposable one would do fine.

And even if you never see something suspicious worth photographing, it could come in handy if you're in a fender bender.

70 posted on 10/21/2001 6:04:45 PM PDT by gumbo
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To: MHGinTN
Still here, alert and always prepared.....
71 posted on 10/21/2001 6:07:19 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: MHGinTN
I live near Berkeley. How will I know if I've seen anything strange or unusual???
72 posted on 10/21/2001 6:07:24 PM PDT by pbear8
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To: IronJack
bump
73 posted on 10/21/2001 6:41:37 PM PDT by Mogger
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To: MHGinTN
Great Post. As an average family photographer, I had recently started carrying two cameras - one film and one digital. I typically choose the one best suited to the trip - film for recreation and digital for town trips. I had not thought of using them for the reasons you post. Thanks. I will be much more aware now that they may serve another purpose.
74 posted on 10/21/2001 6:45:57 PM PDT by Woodstock
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To: MHGinTN
Thanks for the heads up!
75 posted on 10/21/2001 7:28:52 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Huggy
hey im just trying to make people aware NO FLAME INTENDED
76 posted on 10/21/2001 8:15:38 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: Alamo-Girl
Lately I've been sitting here in the hinterland of WV thanking the Lord that terrorists have no interest in hillbillies. But then I picked up the local paper to find that the local Barney Fifes and health dept people are so busy chasing Anthrax scares they are stretched to their limits. I don't think there is actually any Anthrax around here, but people are very nervous. The only thing I can think of that might need watching around here are the two bridges that connect us to the outside world. I think the locals have those covered pretty well though. So I suppose there will be no need for me to wear my video watch when I go out.
77 posted on 10/21/2001 8:16:40 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: Huggy
I GUESS IM CONCERNED MORE ABOUT THEM GETTING CAUGHT TAKING THE PICS AND THE TERRORIST GOING INTO ACTION AGAINST ONE OF OUR OWN THE POLICE AND FBI KNOW THE RISKS THEY TAKE EVERYDAY THE NORMAL CITIZEN WHILE BEING AWARE OF THE RISK DOES NOT REALIZE THE BRUTALITY OF IN YOUR FACE PERSONAL VIOLENCE AGAINST THEMSELVES I JUST WANT THEM TO BE CAREFUL....,

REGARDS

PAPA ROOSTER AKA ATOMIC_PUNK

78 posted on 10/21/2001 8:20:15 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: RevNan
Lately I've been sitting here in the hinterland of WV thanking the Lord that terrorists have no interest in hillbillies.

I recently read an article in Time magazine about someone in Copperhill, TN who met a man at the local airport last spring who he swears was Atta. The man flew in on a small plane and was asking strange questions about the local chemical plant and the various dams.

I was floored because I whitewater raft near Copperhill every year and it is a very small town. It is a place we go to to get away from it all. Evidently the terrorists considered taking out the plant or one of the TVA dams.

Not to be an alarmist, but even small town America could be a target.

79 posted on 10/21/2001 8:39:38 PM PDT by ConservativeLawyer
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To: RevNan
I'm in a small rural community in the Midwest where many people know each other, so spotting outsiders is not difficult. However, we do have a problem with a very few people being concerned about their mail being tainted with anthrax.
80 posted on 10/21/2001 8:46:52 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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