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US and Russia on verge of deal over oil and missiles
The Independent ^
| Oct 20, 2001
| RUPERT CORNWELL
Posted on 10/19/2001 9:20:36 PM PDT by CommiesOut
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To: madrussian; malarski; Askel5; GROUCHOTWO; Zviadist; Free the USA; Black Jade; Carry_Okie
Uh oh... Bad news for our M.E. friends. All of them.
Now they have to provoke something even more sinister.
Bumpy ride ahead.
To: jmp702
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To: CommiesOut
I would love to get out of the old Saudi oil blackmail scheme even if it meant getting some of our supply from our new friend the Russian Federation of States. I want to see the arabs eat sand for about 1,000 years!
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10/19/2001 9:26:08 PM PDT
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seeker41
To: CommiesOut
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To: seeker41
Colin Powell declares: "I believe it is peace in our time."
To: CommiesOut
Yep, here it comes a new "Northern Alliance" circling the globe: North America-Europe-Russia. I sense a new alignment in the world coming based on a Containment strategy we used against "communism" (do we care about that -ism much any more?). The containment target is moslems and their nations, kind of a Caliphate OBL dreamed of, or Islamism. Due to borders, internal minorities, and desire to keep the world economy sttable the "containers," or "allies" if you will, will be the core areas of North America, Europe, Russia, China and India, with periphery partners like Japan.
I wish I could find it again, but I read an article by a Lebanese intellectual warning Arabs that this whole mess has put the USA and Russia together, implying that the Arabs could no longer play off the two. They may be getting more than that...
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posted on
10/19/2001 9:37:37 PM PDT
by
Shermy
To: CommiesOut
In return, America seems ready to embark on massive cuts in its nuclear arsenal, for which Moscow has long been pressing.No!!! I love my nukes. We need more, not less. Russia still has almost 2:1 ratio over us.
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10/19/2001 9:37:50 PM PDT
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SirAllen
To: seeker41
Russian ICBM's are usless even if they could afford them. Addict America to cheap Caspian sea oil and watch middle east fade back into the dessert. Nuclear war is for suckers, energy supplies rule!
To: CommiesOut
Thanks for the post!
To: Big Steve; deport; Irma; PhiKapMom; Wait4Truth; blackie; Deb
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To: SirAllen
No!!! I love my nukes. We need more, not less. Russia still has almost 2:1 ratio over usAs do I...However I think that we probably have something better by now, Nukes are so 1940's.
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posted on
10/19/2001 9:43:45 PM PDT
by
Dosa26
To: CommiesOut
Bump.
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posted on
10/19/2001 9:45:26 PM PDT
by
Faraday
To: CommiesOut
Yeah, looks like Israel is quickly losing its significance. Bummer.
To: SirAllen
As I understand it, atomic weapons need a great deal of care and feeding to keep them in prime working order. They aren't something that you can build and then just put on a shelf for storage. However, I'm no expert in this field and I will gladly defer to the opinion of anyone who has more knowlege.
However, if I am correct in my assumptions, then there is a fair question as to just how much of the Russian arsenel is actually useable, with a fair chance that most of it has fallen into disrepair.
To: Dosa26
It's looking like Saudi Araba and Egypt will end up like the Afgans - poor and with wacko muslems in control?
To: madrussian
Now, who will provoke what? Any ideas?
To: CommiesOut
I think Bush and Putin have a secret plan that they are unleashing on us one step at a time. This can only mean good things with our fight with terrorism.
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posted on
10/19/2001 9:56:27 PM PDT
by
Crispy
To: operation clinton cleanup
Yup. I like it.
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posted on
10/19/2001 9:57:04 PM PDT
by
paul51
To: madrussian
Hardly, If this were true and we could reduce or eliminate our dependence on middle east oil we could take the moral high road and completely support Israel, the only democracy with any civil rights in the mid-east. Buh-Bye terrorists.
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