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15 students suspended over Confederate flag T-shirts
al.com ^ | 10/16/01 | ap

Posted on 10/16/2001 7:16:09 PM PDT by shuckmaster

MOULTON, Ala. (AP) -- Fifteen students at Lawrence County High School got suspended for wearing Confederate flag T-shirts to school Monday.

Principal Ricky Nichols said he suspended the students for three days each because they defied a ban he placed on rebel flag clothing on Friday.

"School is not an open forum," the principal said. "It is a place for learning."

Seven of the students and two parents protested later Monday at the Lawrence County Board of Education's parking lot.

The suspended students all wore T-shirts by Dixie Outfitters. The shirts have emblems on the front and back that contain the Confederate battle flag. The students said the shirts aren't meant as a racial statement.

"In Lawrence County, it's almost like a fashion statement, the same way people wear Tommy Hilfiger," senior Casey Hughes said.

Some students said they wear the shirts as an expression of Southern heritage, but the principal said none of the students could tell him if their great-grandfathers fought in the Civil War.


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To: sirgawain
This can't be because this is the United States of America and we are free! We have freedom of speech and expression, so this can't be a true story! (well, it shouldn't be anyway)
61 posted on 10/16/2001 9:29:40 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: concerned about politics
"...It would be great to get this schools e-mail adress. I like this.
The students are starting to stand up to the socialists ideals.
This is a great sign of the times!!!"


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I think that this is their Web-Site:
East Lawrence High School

The only E-Mail, that I've found so for, is:
lsmith@lawrenceal.org

Their Office's Phone Number is: 256-905-2430

62 posted on 10/16/2001 9:33:07 PM PDT by Alabama_Wild_Man
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To: Yellow Rose of Texas
Slavery had very little to do with the war. As you say, it was a test of the Constitution, and the Constitution lost.

LOL, since he was my daughter's great grand-father, that makes him my grand-daddy, and I was one lucky girl to have known him for as long as I did.

History books have been re-written, not only to change the causes of the War of Northern Aggression, but also to change the meaning of the Constitution itself. We are the worse for it.

I cannot understand why we acquiesce in this perversion of the past. I realise that those who attend the PC-ridden government-run schools do not know any better, but why do we act like sheep and permit it to happen?

True, textbooks have been censored to the point where truth is unrecognisable, yet the original documents still remain. Remember, if you will, that the proclamation issued by Lincoln did not free slaves in northern states, It was not an issue of freedom for slaves, and certainly not one of equality. The entire point was a terrorist attempt to start an uprising of Blacks in the South -- Blacks, many of whom fought beside the White soldiers of the Confederacy.

Oops, sorry. I better get off the soapbox; someone else may need it.

63 posted on 10/16/2001 9:36:50 PM PDT by womanvet
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To: shuckmaster
The only problem I see with this at all. Is that we (along with the "N" word) give these symbols too much power in and of themselves. Why can't we just leave it alone? If a kid wears a rebel flag on his shirt, arm etc. and is a polite citizen and acts no different than anyone else, then he should be treated no different than anyone else. You know, if the principal, just would have let them wear the shirts, without giving the people any special recognition, because of the shirts, then everything would be ok. Everybody's gotta have something to complain about, why can't we just leave it alone and get on with our lives?
64 posted on 10/16/2001 9:37:04 PM PDT by rushlimbaughfan2001
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To: ppaul
Oh... and after insulting comments like "SUCKMASTER"... I truely doubt your sorry. I didn't want to say anything when I first read that. I demand apologies from those that insult me, but rarely get them... and you talk about "cheap shots"???
65 posted on 10/16/2001 10:36:01 PM PDT by Alpenkatze
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To: shuckmaster
So what's wrong with a Confederate flag graphic on a T-shirt? Whatever happened to pride in your country's history? Next the schools will attempt to ban the Stars & Stripes.

The people who take issue with displaying the Confederate flag only seek to make an issue out of a non-issue.

67 posted on 10/16/2001 11:22:48 PM PDT by Dixielander
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To: supercat
Well, according to the Flag Code, the flag is not supposed to be used as, or as part of, an article of clothing (with the exception of flag patches on certain types of uniforms). So if they'd worn flag shirts whose stars and stripes were in any configuration that's ever been recognized as valid the administrators could have used the Flag Code as an excuse for suspending them.

The point is not the "excuse" they use to ban things in schools or even what they ban. The point is that they ban things according to their political views in order to enforce those views on the minds they teach.
68 posted on 10/16/2001 11:31:30 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: womanvet
"...I cannot understand why we acquiesce in this perversion of the past. I realise that those who attend the PC-ridden government-run schools do not know any better, but why do we act like sheep and permit it to happen?"

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Bravo!

That is the very quesion that I've used to rattle as many trees as possible....Why do the 'Sheeple' just sit back and let things ride?

69 posted on 10/17/2001 5:34:23 AM PDT by Alabama_Wild_Man
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To: shuckmaster
At a time when our country is at war, wearing Confederate flag imprinted shirts is divisive and in my opinion plain stupid. About on par with the school teacher in Wisconsin who considers saying the pledge 'jingoistic'. Two peas in a pod. We can get back to those satisfying disagreements over the Civil War after we've won this one.
70 posted on 10/17/2001 5:40:26 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: WaterDragon
At a time when our country is at war, wearing Confederate flag imprinted shirts is divisive and in my opinion plain stupid.

Come on. As we have seen recently in Amherst, Massachusetts, Madison, Wisconsin, and countless other places, people will find just about anything "divisive" whether the country's at war or not. The battle flag of the Confederacy is a proud emblem of our region. As a symbol of legitimate states' rights, it must be defended -- both from the PC crowd who wish to ban it and the racist clods who wish to appropriate it.

The promoters of "New History" are hard at work these days to alter our collective understanding of the past as it truly was. The Southern banner (in all its various versions) simply must not disappear. To deny its legitimate place in our culture is essentially to deny that (1) the Southern states were in their rights to withdraw from the union, and (2) the war waged against them is one of the most stunning outrages of history. And neither of those facts must ever be denied.

71 posted on 10/17/2001 6:01:20 AM PDT by Squire
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To: shuckmaster; jae471; darbymcgill
but the principal said none of the students could tell him if their great-grandfathers fought in the Civil War.

This guy is a principle? Who taught him history? Now he is in charge of educating the next generation of American youth.

I doubt any of their great-grandfathers fought in the civil war. ... Great-great-great-grandfather may be more appropriate for this age group.

Exactly.

does this mean that all those who claim to be offended by the confederate flag must prove their ancestors were slaves????????

At this point, I'd be happy to entertain their objections if they even had a foggy clue. The point is that they don't. And that goes for the vast majority of appologists who rally around their "offended" cause. If history were honestly taught and rationally debated I'd be a whole lot more tolerant of their point.

All this principle is teaching is blind acceptance of his views, rergurgitated pablum, and distain for the Bill of Rights.

72 posted on 10/17/2001 6:13:41 AM PDT by LTCJ
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To: ppaul
Well, I woke up this morning & the name of this thread has been changed.
Confederates are Americans too...
73 posted on 10/17/2001 6:16:35 AM PDT by shuckmaster
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To: shuckmaster
What happened to diversity? Schools have created elaborate programs (copied from the Coporate PC crowd) to celebrate differences among students. I guess Southerners when celebrate their heritage, they become suspended.

If schools can teach holiday's like Kwanzaa and lies about the South (and U.S. History), my kid can wear a Battle Flag on his shirt.

God Bless Dixie [><]

75 posted on 10/17/2001 6:32:57 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: shuckmaster
...the principal said. "It is a place for learning."

...??!..."Learning"?! Did I miss something recently?! I thought schools were a place for dumbing down and indoctrination. When did this change?!

;o)

76 posted on 10/17/2001 6:33:47 AM PDT by Ladysmith
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To: D Joyce
The North had almost all the ships, the factories, munitions and every other advantage. All the South had was the belief in their cause, that the Constitution was worth fighting for, and even worth dying for.

Which is why it took 4 years for the "North", with it's 22 million to defeat the "South", with it's 7 million. It was almost a fair fight.

77 posted on 10/17/2001 6:39:57 AM PDT by 4CJ
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To: D Joyce
Sorry, left off the ;o)
78 posted on 10/17/2001 6:41:18 AM PDT by 4CJ
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To: Squire
Also, St. Andrew's Cross is a very Christian symbol. When I see the Battle Flag, it reminds me of my foundation in Christianity, my faith. The NAACP (and other left-wing socialists) has perverted the Constitution, Southern ideology, Christian symbols, and our culture/heritage. We must fight to keep it up, to preserve our culture. The South is the last bastion of Christianity in America! [><]
79 posted on 10/17/2001 8:46:16 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: the_rightside; Yellow Rose of Texas
The article by Mr. Britt was informative, but stupid. He tries to lump together extreme radicals with the average Proud Southron citizen. Britt takes a swipe at Dr. Hill for "organizing state militias"...ummm, Britty, that's the way our country was designed!

Britt's idiocy runs roughshod over all facets of the South and her culture. I hope the_rightside doesn't buy into all this hogwash!

80 posted on 10/17/2001 9:15:16 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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