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A "Moderate" American Muslim Parent's View (Dems., don't you dare blame the Right!)
www.ummah.com ^ | 1998 | Jamaaluddin al-Haidar

Posted on 10/15/2001 5:05:32 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl

The Consequences of Hijrah fi Dunya
From www.ummah.com, American Muslim Essays, 1998 (scroll halfway down).

Although as Muslim parents and mentors we must always be cognizant of the welfare of our Muslim youth; while we should always be watchful over their development, the recent wave of school violence and the rise in teenage suicide and other destructive forms of immoral and deviant behavior should sound an alarm in the Muslim community. This alarm should indeed be a wake-up call to so many of us who have grown lax and seriously deficient in our responsibilities towards our youth. It should call us to action on at least three critical fronts:

1. We must make a pledge to never send our children to the schools of the kuffar. We must remove our children from these schools and the cesspool of immorality and deviance that they have become. We must do this at all costs. Make whatever sacrifice that needs to be made to send them to the Muslim school. If money and the lack thereof is an issue then we must educate them at home. It is better that they be educated at home or at the Muslim school and not have access to some of the amenities that are available in the kuffar school then to place them in the hands of the kufr school system and gamble with the moral and social welfare of our children.

Remember that our children didn't ask to be born. They are here by Allah's permission; and it is Allah that has entrusted us with rearing them in the ways of the Prophet (saaws) His Companions, and those Righteous Predecessors (ra) so that they may be guided aright and saved from the Fire. Many of our youth were uprooted from their native lands and brought to live in and be raised in this jahiliyyah by their parents. Many of them have parents who made hijrah from (darul-salaam) Muslim lands to darul-kufr so that they could benefit from the dunya. The painful irony is that while these parents busy themselves so much with hankering after dunya, they neglect the Islamic development of the children. They pacify the children with designer clothes...with expensive gifts, and cars. Meanwhile the children are straying away from Islam...becoming murtad and heading for Hellfire.

We should understand that these public schools are set up and run by our open enemies. The curriculum is set by our open enemies. The policies and procedures is set by our open enemies. Once this is understood then what kind of Muslim would send his/her child to be educated by the enemy of Allah and His Rasul (saaws)?

We must develop and maintain a zero tolerance for sending any Muslim child to play with the Fire that awaits him/her in the enemy's school system. If you have all of your children safely enrolled in the Muslim school then join on with others and sponsor need-based scholarships for other Muslim children to attend the Muslim school. We can ill-afford to sacrifice one Muslim child to the wolves.

2. We must stop spoon-feeding Islam to our youth. We must stop speaking in vague terms and boring them to death with our philosophical verbiage. We must stop simply regurgitating what we heard some "scholar" say especially when so many of these scholars themselves are aloof and out of touch with the realities that are germane to the day to day experiences of Muslim youth. The youth must be made to understand that they are being targeted, why they are being targeted, and by whom. They must be made to understand that the only threat to the New World Order is Islam. And as the inheritors of Islamic leadership they are being targeted by the Zionists and the Christians who intend to corrupt them and take them out of Islam.

"We have fooled, bemused and corrupted the youth of the non-Jews by rearing them in principles and theories which are known to us to be false although it is by us that they have been inculcated." (Protocol 9:10 of the Elders of Zion)

"The peoples of the non-Jews are bemused with alcoholic liquors their youth has grown stupid on classicism and from early immorality, into which it has been inducted by our special agents"
(Protocol 1:22 of the Elders of Zion)

"In order to give the non-Jews no time to think and take note, their minds must be diverted towards industry and trade. Thus all the nations will be swallowed up in pursuit of gain and in the race for it will not take note of their common foe." (Protocol 4:4 of the Elders of Zion)

We must put the conspiracy evidence before the youth in clear and concise terms and then ask them who are the distributors and producers of the music that they listen to? Who are the producers of the television and movie entertainment that they watch?. Who are the proponents of liberalism and secularism in the society ? Then we must be bold and courageous enough to tell them that these people are the Jews and their Christian co-conspirators.

3. We must maintain a tough, uncompromising, no-nonsense posture towards those unruly youth who have gone astray and have brought shame on the Muslim community. For some of our Muslim youth it would have been better had they died practicing Islam long ago than to continue living in sin and die in a state of kufr and go to the Hellfire. Although no one seems to want to confront it, let alone talk about it, Muslim youth are forming gangs and becoming heavily involved in the illicit drug trade.

I recently confronted one such gang that operates in the pre-dominantly Yemeni community where I teach science and computer classes at the Islamic school. I have observed this gang of thugs selling drugs across the street from the Masjid and the Islamic school. I have seen them spray graffiti on Muslim businesses. One gang symbol that they spray on walls is "A.W.A." and "Arabs with Attitudes" a play on the name of a group of California-based thugs turned "gangster" rappers-"N.W.A. or "N-ggers with Attitudes". This gang of so-called Muslims had begun to hang around the Islamic school and intimidate and beat up some of our Muslim students at the end of classes. I took four witnesses (two students and two adult men from the local community) and walked across the street where the gang was. I told them that I considered all 200 of the students at my school as my own little brothers and sisters and that if any one of them is harmed again I would hold the gang personally responsible. I advised them to spread the word to their other gang members that there was a new "hands-off" policy as far as the welfare of my students. I told them that if they wanted to test me I have brothers who consider the thugs who break the windows of the school and masjid and beat up innocent Muslim youth who are trying to do the right thing in a Muslim school, as Muslim in name only and therefore 'expendable' enemies of the community. I assured them that one-by-one, they would be snatched off the street and taken somewhere where their legs would be broken with baseball bats. Perhaps this posture is extreme for some faint-hearted Muslims, but wasn't it Allah who told us that "amongst your children are enemies of Allah"?

In conclusion, we need to really take a serious look at ourselves and ask the question--- why do we remain in darul-kufr when it is having such a detrimental effect on our children? What motivates us to do what we do? There comes a time when we must re-examine our priorities in life and contemplate our lot in the Hereafter. Is "getting our share of the dunya" worth gambling with our children's future? What does it profit a man to gain the world and lose his soul?

Because I work with the youth on a daily basis I observe them from a vantage point that even their parents don't have the opportunity to do so. I shudder when I reflect on the fact that while it took 400 years of slavery, the introduction of liberalism and the systematic erosion of family values and morals to reduce African-Americans to the level of deviancy that many of them are at today, after just one generation removed from their native lands, America has already corrupted so many immigrant Muslim youth.

Their fathers brought them to this God-forsaken land from Bangladesh while they were little children and now already, a gang of youth in one jamaat have on three occasions broken out the car windows of the Shaikh (who incidentally is also Bengali), because the Shaikh dared to speak against their selling and using of drugs and fornicating with Polish and Serbian girls in the neighborhood. What does this say about this America that Khomeini called the Great Shaitan? What does it say about it's influence on us and our youth? Is hijrah the answer?

For me, hijrah is most definetly the answer. It has now become a mandate and indeed a mission.

Fi-Amanillah,
Jamaaluddin al-Haidar


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To: MHGinTN
the media is complicit in the disinformation their masters at dem party send down, and the people are none the wiser usually.

Someone will stumble onto Alamo-Girl's archives a hundred years from now and change the world. Or, if we're in the last days, at least we're in the company of people who aren't confused about who's the enemy. Hugs.

21 posted on 10/15/2001 8:10:53 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Why then did ANTHRAX then hit their strongest supporting voices thru TV during Impeachment ...TOM BROKAW, TOM DASCHLE, the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times...giving them each more TV credibility for the years ahead in -Time of War-?

Aloha Ronnie, ironic, isn't it? The Taliban is either incredibly lucky or incredibly incompetent. They certainly misunderstood the tenacity and courage of the average American, and if they sent anthrax to the "liberal purveyors of filth and lies" to hurt them, they've done just the opposite by giving them credibility, as you said, and modern American hero status as victims.

But those Dems. better not blame us!

22 posted on 10/15/2001 8:17:45 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Kermit
If you're from DU, the Muslims don't like you, Kermit. Just for the record, those folks from the old country built this country, wrote the Constitution and gave you the freedoms you enjoy today, those monsters! <*sarcasm*>
23 posted on 10/15/2001 8:22:01 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; reformjoy; goldilucky; Snow Bunny; FallGuy; Registered; Republic; onyx; JMJ333
...You are most perceptive, Ragtime Cowgirl, only it's the Complict CLINTONS-3 themselves that are right in there pulling strings in all of this.

...NEVER FORGET that it was they who were Friends with the World's Terrorists and Communist Terrorist Groups since the Turbulent 1960's ...who are stronger still since the CLINTONS-3 Time in our Oval Office.

24 posted on 10/15/2001 8:25:15 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
Here's a fascinating read that I thought you'd find very worthwhile, Chairman.
25 posted on 10/15/2001 8:33:55 PM PDT by Mr. Mulliner
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
"I won't sit still while the Dems. blame us while ignoring the very public words of their Muslim fellow citizens."

Somehow, sniffing the winds of change, the Dems tried at the very begining of this disaster to find any way possible that they could spin this to make the Right a connecting point. Seems, that included referencing Bin Laden as 'right-wing' or referring to the Taliban as religious conservatives. . .just for starters. . .

This post should be shared with such sites as 'Demonrats Underground' aka 'DU' and a few others. . .

. . .they should chew on this awhile.

Not that anyone in the Liberal echelon of America's Left would understand the import of the Muslilm's anti-Liberal position. . .but a little something might stick and eventually be nourished to independent thought. . .

As for the Muslim's who do not 'get it'; or understand it, despite or because of the fact that they live here; they really should decide whether they are in fact 'for us' or 'against us'. . .

Given the decrees of Islam; think the latter is a given and not an opiton.

26 posted on 10/15/2001 9:08:32 PM PDT by cricket
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Thanks Ragtime Cowgirl.
27 posted on 10/15/2001 9:10:15 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I forget what thread it is on here, but it talks about when Clinton freed the Puerto Rican Terrorists and how it began the dominos of terrorists knowing they could do whatever they wanted to , to America.
Hillary's love for the PLO, Bill Clinton snubbing Netenyahu, and the Clinton's hatred for America.....step by step, inch by inch it helped Osama.

Thanks ALOLHA RONNIE

28 posted on 10/15/2001 9:14:41 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
"NEVER FORGET that it was they who were Friends with the World's Terrorists and Communist Terrorist Groups since the Turbulent 1960's ...who are stronger still since the CLINTONS-3 Time in our Oval Office."

BUMP to you in agreement.

29 posted on 10/15/2001 10:19:18 PM PDT by FallGuy
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Time sure is telling its tale.

"..Why did the ANTHRAX Attacks first hit the CLINTONS' Enemy American Media, Inc whose Magazines have been accurately reporting the misbehaviors of the CLINTONS, GARY CONDIT and JESSE JACKSON all year long...? Why then did ANTHRAX then hit their Enemy Microsoft...? Why then did ANTHRAX then hit their strongest supporting voices thru TV during Impeachment ...TOM BROKAW, TOM DASCHLE, the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times...giving them each more TV credibility for the years ahead in -Time of War-?"

Very good insight here! I was often wondering why the media was attacked by this as well. We are dealing with two evil monsters. Wouldn't surprise me if these two are forcing Palestine and Israel to some "peace agreement" under the auspices of the U.N.

30 posted on 10/15/2001 10:30:17 PM PDT by goldilucky
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
For those here not familiar with the term, hijrah means emigration.
31 posted on 10/15/2001 10:38:40 PM PDT by atafak
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To: Red Jones
Things are bad in many countries. Maybe before September 11 I wouldn't have cared about what this guy wrote. I would think he was a nut like some racists. Things are differant now. America is still safer than other countries. After September 11, I worry about the enemy within who hates freedom. I don't trust people who want to force people to be like them. Islamic Sharia law is what this writer wants. People should have the right to be responsible for their actions. People should obey the laws but be allowed to worship and live their life the way they want. Under Sharia law, people must obey one religion and one way of life. My Dad says that freedom brings pain as well as peace depending on your choices. I don't want the Taliban here in America.
32 posted on 10/16/2001 7:57:11 AM PDT by sonofdemnomo
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To: atafak
For those here not familiar with the term, hijrah means emigration.

Does the writer want to hijrah it back to the Middle East? It's all right with me.

33 posted on 10/16/2001 8:00:52 AM PDT by sonofdemnomo
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To: sonofdemnomo
Can we clone you? It'd be nice if all high schoolers were like you.
34 posted on 10/16/2001 1:14:36 PM PDT by Media2Powerful
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Ronnie, the only way I can deal with the Clintons right now is to see them as relevant in their own minds and in the minds of their followers, but having nothing to offer our side in this fight against (evil) the militant terrorists. They can posture and pose and shake their fists and emote and it's so much noise, meaningless. They are not going to scare the good people in this country with their manipulations, we're too angry. Hugs.
35 posted on 10/16/2001 1:15:30 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: cricket
Not that anyone in the Liberal echelon of America's Left would understand the import of the Muslilm's anti-Liberal position. . .but a little something might stick and eventually be nourished to independent thought. . .

We can lead them to truth, but....maybe one or two will get it and leave the Dem. party. Most Dems. seem to hold so tightly to their failed ideologies that defending these ideas trumps even the security of our nation...as Daschle's efforts to prevent drilling for oil within the US proves.

The first reference to the right-wing as Taliban I've been able to find was a comment from Jesse Jackson last February. He stated that President Bush's Cabinet picks looked like they came from "the Taliban wing of the Republican party." The comment was then picked up by most major media outlets, and so it began...

36 posted on 10/16/2001 1:23:51 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Media2Powerful
Can we clone you?

My Mom says that I am a clone of my Dad. I'm way more conservative than my Dad. We just look alike. Dad is way more conservative today than when I was born. (1988) My Mom is too. Bill Clinton's legacy.

37 posted on 10/16/2001 1:56:49 PM PDT by sonofdemnomo
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
I notice that this Muslim "moderate" quotes extensively from the fraudulent Protocols of the Elders of Zion. I suppose his "moderation" stems from the fact that he doesn't blame the Jews only, but also their Christian co-conspirators.

For me, hijrah is most definetly the answer. It has now become a mandate and indeed a mission.

On this much we agree. What's he waiting for?

38 posted on 10/16/2001 2:00:34 PM PDT by William Wallace
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To: William Wallace
What's he waiting for?

Most of these parents sought asylum here to escape brutal governments. They keep themselves removed from our culture as much as possible, but their children don't know what they suffered and are exposed to "corrupting influences" in spite of the parents' efforts to shield them. Familiar story. If these immigrants understood our history and Constitution, they would not be so quick to condemn the country that gives them the freedom to speak and worship without interference from the government. What do they teach in Muslim schools?

39 posted on 10/16/2001 5:34:08 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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It would take members of the media less than an hour to discover what the American Muslims believe, that they see our culture as corrupt (which, to anyone with a brain, it obviously is). While the paranoid left is blaming the Militia movement in the press and TV news shows for the current anthrax attacks, they are blind to the very public and readily available words of American Muslims who think the liberal secular US is corrupting their young. Yes, the Muslims believe that all non-Muslims are corrupt (most faiths think the same of non-believers), but the militants among them hate the left more. That's a fact - and it has nothing to do with Republicans.

For another, more "American" view from an American Muslim:

The Fight for the Soul of Islam in America
Amidst the competing agendas of Salafees, Sufis and Modernists, Yahiya Emerick calls on "everyday Muslims" to remember that Islam is a balanced way of life.

If you're like me, you really care about Islam becoming a permanent part of the fabric of this nation. You don't want to be the last Muslim in your family tree either and you're convinced that Islam would make everyone around you much happier if they only gave it a try. You or I may not always be the most perfect Muslims, but we do work at it and we genuinely hope in the mercy and forgiveness of Allah.

You've probably also heard a lot of different types of scholars speak and heard a lot of different theories and concepts presented for how to live Islam. Some you may agree with, others you may not. But isn't it true that there's always something going on somewhere, whether it's in the Masjids, universities, organizations, magazines or centers? There's always something going on and always some idea being advanced....

What of organizations? The same holds true. There are a zillion Muslim groups operating in North America right now. So many, in fact, that most everyday Muslims don't know who they should support and thus remain dormant. Part of the problem which is fueling this tendency to inaction is that we often don't see the members of many of the organizations practicing or implementing any meaningful sense of Islamic brotherhood, at least in the way you or I have read it's supposed to be done according to the Qur'an and Sunnah.

In fact, we so often complain about there being too many Islamic groups who don't reflect Islamic teachings that it can be quite un-nerving. But we have to redefine this lament in order to get at the real crux of the problem. The real issue is not that there are too many Islamic groups out there- hey, the more Islamic groups the merrier! Neither is the issue whether or not the groups adhere to Islamic standards, because if you're a Muslim, you work for Allah regardless of how helpful the people around you are.

The real problem is that each group seems to teach something different or to present Islam in their own, narrow way, to the exclusion of the rest of the Ummah. They give us their interpretation of what the perfect Muslim does and then they ardently try to get everyone else to follow this interpretation. Other Islamic groups, who may lean in a different way, are then labeled "weak" Muslims, mis-guided or even kuffar. Thus the wall of disrespect.

If you're interested in participating in the building of a healthy, self-perpetuating Islamic community in North America, then you probably look upon all this foolishness and sigh in sorrow. But if you're really an optimist, as Islam tries to get you to be, then you just don't complain about something, you try to understand the problem and then work towards a solution. So how can we learn how to cure this problem and how can we know which direction for change we must take? To do that then, requires a little analysis. So let's go.

First, we have to recognize that Islam in America is probably closer to the true teachings of the Prophet Muhammad, may he be blessed, than at any other time in the last five hundred years. No, I'm not saying that Muslims are better believers today. I'm saying that the access to pure Islamic teachings and the ability to live them to their fullest moral and social potential is more pronounced here, in North America, than in Iraq, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Nigeria or anywhere else. The Muslim world: forget about it. It's too bogged down in stupidity, corruption, nationalism, racism and every other kind of ailment you can imagine. The light of Islam has been put out in the Muslim world and has been reborn in the heart of the secular, faithless West. (Allah is truly great!)

There is nothing you or I can do to improve the Muslim world. Nothing. Just accept it and get over it. Part of being a Muslim is to choose your battles wisely. Even the Prophet left Mecca when he saw no more change could come. In the open and cosmopolitan society of Medina, the focus of the Muslims was in building a solid community which could live in relative safety. The Medinan situation is where the ideal of the community took form and flowered. We are now in the Meccan times today in the Muslim world and Islam, like so many Muslims, has made Hijrah to safer lands where it can work on regaining its strength.

Think about it: living in the West is the real test of a believer. You're living Islam in a place where there are no restrictions against your 'Ibadah. No one will prevent you from praying here, no one will make you shave your beard or remove your Hijab. (If someone tries, you can take them to court!) No one will make you eat pork or renounce your beliefs. No one will make you stare like a wolf at a pretty girl. No one will make you take drugs or alcohol. No one can make you lie, cheat or steal. No one will make you open a liquor store or accept interest money. No one will prevent you from living near the Masjid, etc... America today is literally Sodom and Gomorra: a place where anything, including Islam, is allowed. You are like Prophet Lut in the midst of the pit of sin. No one made him change his religion. He prayed and taught whatever he wanted. Most people just refused to listen, that's all.

See link for the rest of article...

40 posted on 10/17/2001 10:10:18 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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