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To: hopefulpilgrim
But God's word says that "the wages of sin is death." He doesn't differentiate between light sins and mortal sins....all sin ULTIMATELY leads to death, unless repented of and forgiven by God.

So when that Catholic yesterday took the Lord's name in vain, that means that he warrants death if he does not repent of it, correct?

Now what if he was a "saved" Christian who in the heat of the moment took the Lord's name in vain? He still needs to repent, right?

OK, let's say this same "saved" Christian is mad and talking on the phone. He yells out the Lord's name in vain and BANG! is hit by a bus and dies. What happens to him? He dies without repenting his sin. The wages of sin is death.

Havoc always beats into me the need for a true Christian to avoid sin. Well here we have an otherwise good Christian man who happens to die with unrepented sin. What happens to him?

SD

3,711 posted on 10/29/2001 10:14:14 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
"OK, let's say this same "saved" Christian is mad and talking on the phone. He yells out the Lord's name in vain and BANG! is hit by a bus and dies. What happens to him? He dies without repenting his sin. The wages of sin is death."

Good question. The sin is covered by the blood of Jesus. Remember all sins are covered, not just the ones we had committed at the time we accepted Christ into our heart. Once saved, all our sins are covered (past, present, and future), but sin can separate us from communion with God. Ever notice how hard it is to pray or spend time with the Lord when you have un-confessed sin. There is a barrier there. By confessing our sin and asking for forgiveness, we are restoring that communion.

Let's look in numbers for an example of this:
Number 19:1-13, 17-19
"Then the LORD spoke to Moses and Aaron, saying, "This is the statute of the law which the LORD has commanded, saying, Speak to the sons of Israel that they bring you an unblemished red heifer in which is no defect and on which a yoke has never been placed. "You shall give it to Eleazar the priest, and it shall be brought outside the camp and be slaughtered in his presence. "Next Eleazar the priest shall take some of its blood with his finger and sprinkle some of its blood toward the front of the tent of meeting seven times. "Then the heifer shall be burned in his sight; its hide and its flesh and its blood, with its refuse, shall be burned. "The priest shall take cedar wood and hyssop and scarlet material and cast it into the midst of the burning heifer. "The priest shall then wash his clothes and bathe his body in water, and afterward come into the camp, but the priest shall be unclean until evening. "The one who burns it shall also wash his clothes in water and bathe his body in water, and shall be unclean until evening. "Now a man who is clean shall gather up the ashes of the heifer and deposit them outside the camp in a clean place, and the congregation of the sons of Israel shall keep it as water to remove impurity; it is purification from sin. "The one who gathers the ashes of the heifer shall wash his clothes and be unclean until evening; and it shall be a perpetual statute to the sons of Israel and to the alien who sojourns among them. "The one who touches the corpse of any person shall be unclean for seven days. "That one shall purify himself from uncleanness with the water on the third day and on the seventh day, and then he will be clean; but if he does not purify himself on the third day and on the seventh day, he will not be clean. Anyone who touches a corpse, the body of a man who has died, and does not purify himself, defiles the tabernacle of the LORD; and that person shall be cut off from Israel. Because the water for impurity was not sprinkled on him, he shall be unclean; his uncleanness is still on him. ....Then for the unclean person they shall take some of the ashes of the burnt purification from sin and flowing water shall be added to them in a vessel. A clean person shall take hyssop and dip it in the water, and sprinkle it on the tent and on all the furnishings and on the persons who were there, and on the one who touched the bone or the one slain or the one dying naturally or the grave. Then the clean person shall sprinkle on the unclean on the third day and on the seventh day; and on the seventh day he shall purify him from uncleanness, and he shall wash his clothes and bathe himself in water and shall be clean by evening.

So here we have the offering of a red heifer. This is a unique offering in that it is sacrificed once, and its ashes are used to purify future sins. This is in direct correlation with our Lord. Since he is the fullfillment of the Law, his atoning for sin can be seen in the red heifer. He was sacrificed once, but his blood covers us for future sins.

JM
3,724 posted on 10/29/2001 10:27:29 AM PST by JohnnyM
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To: SoothingDave
OK, let's say this same "saved" Christian is mad and talking on the phone. He yells out the Lord's name in vain and BANG! is hit by a bus and dies. What happens to him? He dies without repenting his sin. The wages of sin is death

If he is truly "saved" he will suffer loss of rewards, (1 Cor. 3:15) but not loss of salvation.

Becky

3,726 posted on 10/29/2001 10:30:25 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: SoothingDave
OK, let's say this same "saved" Christian is mad and talking on the phone. He yells out the Lord's name in vain and BANG! is hit by a bus and dies. What happens to him? He dies without repenting his sin. The wages of sin is death.

Is his faith still in Christ for His salvation?

If yes, then proceed on to eternal life.

If no, go directly to Hell. Do not pass Go, do not collect $200.

3,736 posted on 10/29/2001 10:46:57 AM PST by the808bass
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To: SoothingDave
OK, let's say this same "saved" Christian is mad and talking on the phone. He yells out the Lord's name in vain and BANG! is hit by a bus and dies. What happens to him? He dies without repenting his sin. The wages of sin is death.

What do you know about the death process? Is it just possible a nanosecond is more than enough time to repent?
3,883 posted on 10/29/2001 1:32:52 PM PST by OLD REGGIE
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To: SoothingDave
So when that Catholic yesterday took the Lord's name in vain, that means that he warrants death if he does not repent of it, correct?

Any sin warrants death. That is why Christ died. If the catholic we are referring to really belongs to Christ, the wages of his sin have been suffered by the Saviour. If he doesn't belong to Christ (has refused the gift of God, which is Christ Himself), then he perishes in his sin.....even if he had committed only one sin in his entire life...even if he had been an "upright" and "perfect" man his entire life, but rejected the grace of God......even if he had followed all the practices and traditions of the catholic church, but did not subject himself to the righteousness of God, he would die in his sin.

4,232 posted on 10/30/2001 10:14:04 AM PST by hopefulpilgrim
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