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To: al_c
Hi, al_c. : )

Catholics treat sin flippantly at times.

You're generalizing. Not a good thing.

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I presume you haven't caught up with the posts from yesterday....An example of the "flippancy" was evidenced beautifully by someone here yesterday. But aside from that, various sins have different levels of punishment (according to catholicism, that is) and pennance assigned by your church, and the punishment for venial sins is NOT eternal. But God's word says that "the wages of sin is death." He doesn't differentiate between light sins and mortal sins....all sin ULTIMATELY leads to death, unless repented of and forgiven by God.

3,703 posted on 10/29/2001 10:02:17 AM PST by hopefulpilgrim
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To: hopefulpilgrim
G'day, HP.

I presume you haven't caught up with the posts from yesterday....An example of the "flippancy" was evidenced beautifully by someone here yesterday. But aside from that, various sins have different levels of punishment (according to catholicism, that is) and pennance assigned by your church, and the punishment for venial sins is NOT eternal. But God's word says that "the wages of sin is death." He doesn't differentiate between light sins and mortal sins....all sin ULTIMATELY leads to death, unless repented of and forgiven by God.

I caught up as best I could ... probably missed some here and there. I saw many examples of "flippancy." ;o)

In regards to the rest of your post, here's a bit of text from 1John ...

16. If anyone sees his brother sinning, if the sin is not deadly, he should pray to God and he will give him life. This is only for those whose sin is not deadly. There is such a thing as deadly sin, about which I do not say that you should pray. 17. All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin that is not deadly.

3,709 posted on 10/29/2001 10:11:38 AM PST by al_c
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To: hopefulpilgrim
But God's word says that "the wages of sin is death." He doesn't differentiate between light sins and mortal sins....all sin ULTIMATELY leads to death, unless repented of and forgiven by God.

So when that Catholic yesterday took the Lord's name in vain, that means that he warrants death if he does not repent of it, correct?

Now what if he was a "saved" Christian who in the heat of the moment took the Lord's name in vain? He still needs to repent, right?

OK, let's say this same "saved" Christian is mad and talking on the phone. He yells out the Lord's name in vain and BANG! is hit by a bus and dies. What happens to him? He dies without repenting his sin. The wages of sin is death.

Havoc always beats into me the need for a true Christian to avoid sin. Well here we have an otherwise good Christian man who happens to die with unrepented sin. What happens to him?

SD

3,711 posted on 10/29/2001 10:14:14 AM PST by SoothingDave
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