[SoothingDave]

It was only His human, earthly existence which began in the womb of Mary. She is the mother of His humanity, not His divinity.

The Godhead has no motherhood!

My Jesus is completely God and completely man. Yours is apparently something else. When did Jesus become God?

Maybe you can take a stab at my logic. Which one of these statements do you not agree with?

Jesus is God

Mary gave birth to Jesus

SD

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

Your logic is twisted:)

Jesus always was and always will be, then he came to earth to save us. That is what the bible says. Your logic is "vain babblings" that we spoke of before. This is like asking can God create a rock he can't pick up. Stupid babblings is what I call them.

Becky

[JohnnyM]

Job did sin.

Job 42:6:

"Therefore I retract, And I repent in dust and ashes"

The key issue here is that if someone can live a sinless life, than Christ's death was unnecessary. But no one can live that sinless life. It is impossible. We are sinners through and through. We are not sinners because we sin, we sin because we are sinners. So we are born separated from God. We are born as children of sin, and only through the atoning blood of Christ are we brought back into communion with the Father and adopted into His family as children of righteousness.

JM

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

My Jesus is completely God and completely man. Yours is apparently something else. When did Jesus become God?

The wording of Is. 9:6, speaking of the birth of Christ, is very precise. First we read, "A child is born." This refers to Jesus' humanity. Then we read, "A son is given." This refers to Jesus' eternal deity. As a child he was indeed born, but as a Son he has existed forever. Mi. 5:2 also makes it clear that Christ as the Son of God had no beginning, no mother. Here we read that the Holy One born in Bethlehem's stable was One "whose goings forth have been from old, from everlasting"! Mary, then, had no part whatsoever in mothering the Godhead.

Again we find that this key Roman Catholic doctrine is built purely upon human speculation.

BigMack

[hopefulpilgrim]

You wrote to PayNo: Maybe you can take a stab at my logic. Which one of these statements do you not agree with?
Jesus is God
Mary gave birth to Jesus

Hey Dave, try this one:

God is eternal; He cannot die.
Jesus is God.
Therefore, Jesus did not die.

Man's logic is fallible, isn't it? Only God's is not.