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To: SoothingDave
My Jesus is completely God and completely man. Yours is apparently something else. When did Jesus become God?

The wording of Is. 9:6, speaking of the birth of Christ, is very precise. First we read, "A child is born." This refers to Jesus' humanity. Then we read, "A son is given." This refers to Jesus' eternal deity. As a child he was indeed born, but as a Son he has existed forever. Mi. 5:2 also makes it clear that Christ as the Son of God had no beginning, no mother. Here we read that the Holy One born in Bethlehem's stable was One "whose goings forth have been from old, from everlasting"! Mary, then, had no part whatsoever in mothering the Godhead.

Again we find that this key Roman Catholic doctrine is built purely upon human speculation.

BigMack

1,899 posted on 10/22/2001 12:55:38 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
As a child he was indeed born, but as a Son he has existed forever.

OK, now what half of him was what? When did the "human" half meet the "god half"? Or, to ask my question again, when did Jesus become God? That is, when did the human Jesus become half God?

Mary, then, had no part whatsoever in mothering the Godhead.

Earth to Protestants. NOBODY IS SAYING THIS!

Nobody says that Mary mothered the Godhead, pre-existed before God, created God. Stop arguing what we don't believe.

Now we attest that Jesus as a person is fully God and fully man. When He was Incarnated He was fully God and fully man. This means that in the womb of his mother, Mary, He was fully God and fully man. It can then be said that Mary carried God in her womb.

Again we find that this key Roman Catholic doctrine is built purely upon human speculation.

Which supporting statement is purely built upon human speculation? Which statement do you not find in Scripture? Which statement is not true?

Jesus is God

Mary is the Mother of Jesus

Answer the question.

SD

1,908 posted on 10/22/2001 1:13:02 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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