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To: Pelayo
Chronologically yes, but Mary never doubted thus she believes first. But it doesn't matter because as you should know (assuming you pay attention to it) it has nothing to do with my original argument, unless you make the claim that Zechariah believed in Jesus before Mary did.

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NAB Luke 1:
20 But now you will be speechless and unable to talk (9) until the day these things take place, because you did not believe my words, which will be fulfilled at their proper time."

34 But Mary said to the angel, "How can this be, since I have no relations with a man?" (12)
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(9) You will be speechless and unable to talk: Zechariah's becoming mute is the sign given in response to his question in v 18. When Mary asks a similar question in Luke 1:34, unlike Zechariah who was punished for his doubt, she, in spite of her doubt, is praised and reassured(Luke 1:35-37).

(12) Mary's questioning response is a denial of sexual relations and is used by Luke to lead to the angel's declaration about the Spirit's role in the conception of this child (Luke 1:35). According to Luke, the virginal conception of Jesus takes place through the holy Spirit, the power of God,

(These are NAB footnotes, not mine!)
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Oh, by the way, according to the NAB, Mary did doubt.

Perhaps your argument is with the NAB (your own Bible) rather than with me.

And, Zechariah had six months to believe in Jesus before Mary was even approached. Do you think he believed the devil did it?

You could make an argument that the reason Mary was praised rather than punished was becaused she was "blessed". I would actually agree with this.
1,592 posted on 10/20/2001 5:08:56 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE
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To: OLD REGGIE
Look it's all rot any way, it dosn't matter to my argument if Mary did at first doubt, or not. You still don't understand the point I'm making, as you demonstrate with this....

And, Zechariah had six months to believe in Jesus before Mary was even approached. Do you think he believed the devil did it?

Are you really saying Zechariah new about Jesus befor Mary was told? Where, in the Bible, did the Angel tell him about Jesus?

1,597 posted on 10/20/2001 5:46:03 PM PDT by Pelayo
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