Posted on 10/15/2001 6:54:40 AM PDT by malakhi
| Statesmen may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue. - John Adams |
Please show me where I can find it saying the Latin translations were made around 200AD, and please simply Copy and Paste the claim, and don't give me three days of reading to find it my self. "Just the facts Ma'am"
Where do you get this nonsense. If you say we have a 300-year gap, then to be consistent you must say there is no such thing as history prior to 300 A.D. Just goes to show that your doctines must rely on ignorance.
Where do I get this nonsence? Well it could be from the fact you have nothing solid to base your beliefs on from the death of the apostles until you became the history your self in the 3rd century, and then tried to build the bridge back to the apostles, instead of building it from the apostles forward using canon scripture.
The Temple of God is now in man, it is a spiritual state, how did you round up all those spirits, and put them in your church? Lol :-)
One of the biggest non-issues that I see in Catholic/Protestant debate is the labeling of Mary as the "Mother of God."
As far as I can tell, Catholics and Protestants hold nearly the exact same view on this subject, they just differ in the terms they use to describe it.
"Jesus is fully man and fully God; Mary gave birth to Jesus (she is his mother); Mary is the mother of God."
No Catholic believes that Mary existed before Jesus. I don't understand the debate.
I would add that Protestants are members of the body of Christ however they are in imperfect communion with his Church.
I don't pretend, I know its true. There is no evidence to prove otherwise.
To simply state something with conviction is not a proof.
That's what we've been telling Protestants for all these many threads. The Catholic/Orthodox posters have the history, tradition and witness of the early church from the time of Christ to the present. The Protestant story is at best 500 years old and is a hodgepodge of conflicting beliefs.
And tonight, we get to see actual proof that meddling owners who think they can buy/coach a winning team can and will ruin said team.
Should be low ratings for ABC tonight.
LOL!!!
Gloom, dispare and agony on us!
Are you serious?! Dilfer did nothing to help win the Superbowl. He was just along for the ride.
Welcome to the threads Conlan. You're right. If you believe Jesus was God in the flesh and rose again for the remission of sins you are christian. But once you get to know the catholics in here you'll have step in line and look at us lowly non-catholics as being invincibly ignorant. One more thing, you'll find most non-catholics in here well aware of catholic teachings which, speaking for myself at least, is why I choose not to be.
Angelo. Havoc didn't compare anyone in here to a terrorist. You guys are overreacting. Go back and read the post without your PC glasses on.
By the way, nice win by the Packers. Now that one shows me the Packs chances are as good as 3-4 other teams that could win it all (sorry Dave, Steelers arent foolin' me). The Broncos, on the other hand, look like crap. This is the 3rd year in a row now that Griese junior's should has flared up. He's a good QB but if he can't stay healthy we'd better start looking for a QB of the future.
I would rather my detractors think of me as hopelessly unteachable, rather than the present situation, where we Catholics are all assumed to be "semiprofesional" apologists, spin doctors, in lockstep with our masters, deliberate con artists and decivers.
But that's just me.
SD
BTW: Protestants don't seem to realize that the KKK was much more avidly anti-Catholic than they were anti-black,because the Church was powerful enough to fight back. You may recall the "Battle of South Bend," where the KKK ran into students from Notre Dame and got run out of town. And that was when the Klan was really powerful in Indiana. (And that was before Notre Dame became politically correct.)
You say this because you operate under the false premise that the Church comes from the Bible when the fact of the matter is its the other way around.
Why would Peter and Paul be adressing letters to the Church if it didn't exist. And besides, when they wrote their their letters it couldn't have been part of any NT canon the early Church had. It would be another 350 years before the canon was closed.
Biblewonk Alert.
Well the reason I used the word religiose and not religious was to indicate that it didn't have to be about Jesus or any religious person per se. All it had to have was a religion in it. This could include the Matrix I suppose, it did have something of a messianic theme. But, frankly I was thinking along the lines of maybe The Bells of St. Mary's or something like that, but the Matrix? :/
Ok. You guys win. You're more victimized.
He's won something like 13 consecutive games as a starter. He's not a big playmaker, but he doesn't screw up much, either. Sometimes that's all you need. Did you see Grbac yesterday for Baltimore? An interception, a fumble, and a lot of high passes. Meanwhile, Dilfer was 12 of 18, with no turnovers.
LOL!
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I know there are others out there who are waiting to see my reply, but since I can't prove my point, I will make this personal between you and I, so the lurkers will think I didn't answer your request because there is something wrong with JHavard, and not the Catholic dictrine.
Ok, thanks anyway :-)
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