Posted on 10/15/2001 6:54:40 AM PDT by malakhi
| Statesmen may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue. - John Adams |
I love this book too. If I had to rank the books of the Bible I would definitely put Hebrews at or near the top. It does such a good job of opening up what God was doing in the OT.
I took a course at Pensacola Christian College this past January called "The Tabernacle, Feasts and Offerings." It was excellent, we spent a fair amount of time in the book of Hebrews, specifically chapters 9 and 10.
-ksen
Actually your questions gets into a whole lot of philosophy. If God knows all (i.e. if we will end up in heaven or not) what is the point of existince. God can just place our souls where they belong and forget about an earthly existence. Because in essence if God knows ALL and time is not linear for God, we have already committed the sins before we ever were born.
I believe God know all possibilities, but since He gave us free will he has limited his own knowlwedge on the final outcome. Similar to the way he limited his control over all be ceding hell to satan. He can take back control (or eliminate free will anytime he wants) it is not a permanent thing. Every choice leads to infinite more choices and God knows where each leads.
For example, God can tell I will arrive in Heaven 76% of the time based on my choices but the final resolution of my soul is still up to me
How do they get that screaming cry to be just the right frequency to resonate inside your head?
My wife went to Wal-Mart last night to buy some Ora-Gel and found that the continual child care, like the pregnancy, is the topic of discussion for whoever happens to be around. Like the old ladies will come up and rub your pregnant belly, they also don't hesitate to offer you advice. As she reached for the teething gel, she was told that she didn't need that. "Just get some whiskey"
I ask the parents here, did you use the commercial preparations or just use whiskey? Whiskey has the benefit of being comforting to mom and dad as well as to the baby. Maybe I'll have to swing by the state store today.
SD
Explain how this statement in not working one's way to heaven.
So if some people from non-catholic religions are going to heaven you believe there is more then one way to heaven. Explain John 14:6 Jesus says I am the way the truth and the life no man cometh unto the Father but by me. Sounds like one way to me.
Becky
Judas probably did too. As well as Ananias and Saphari(sp), Ceasar, David and Bathsheba, Peter and the cock ad infinitum.
At the appearing of Christ when He comes to claim His Bride; the Rapture.
*I think Uriel's capitalization scheme has rubbed off on me ;^)*
-ksen
Free will and choice are an illusion without which there would be no point in existing.
What if I can imagine people who think they are saved losing what they think is their salvation?
SD
Another evidence for Intelligent Design?
;^)
-ksen
I don't know ... but my head is pounding this morning.
My wife went to Wal-Mart last night to buy some Ora-Gel and found that the continual child care, like the pregnancy, is the topic of discussion for whoever happens to be around. Like the old ladies will come up and rub your pregnant belly, they also don't hesitate to offer you advice. As she reached for the teething gel, she was told that she didn't need that. "Just get some whiskey"
Y'know ... the night time Oragel works better than the regular stuff. Can't ... resist ... ... must offer suggestions ... ;o)
I ask the parents here, did you use the commercial preparations or just use whiskey? Whiskey has the benefit of being comforting to mom and dad as well as to the baby. Maybe I'll have to swing by the state store today.
Baby gets the Oragel ... daddy gets the whiskey. Hey ... wave at a few Baptists while your at the state store! (I'm only kidding, Baptists ... just going along with the old joke)
At the appearing of Christ when He comes to claim His Bride; the Rapture.
OK. Now for most people, who have died before the "Rapture" occurred, this would be sometime after they die, right?
And before they go to Heaven?
SD
Ah yes, the screaming frequency is just about right with a proper hangover. LOL.
LOL. You're clever.
SD
Becky
Becky
So 1Cor 9:27, and 2Cor 13:5, Not to mention Ps 51:1-19 where all written without the HS?
45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour. 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
1 Corinthians 9
26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:
27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
Matthew 10
22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
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