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Weapons Law Works
the Kentucky Post | 10/13/2001 | Courtney Kinney

Posted on 10/13/2001 10:26:14 PM PDT by the irate magistrate

Weapons law works

By Courtney Kinney, Post Frankfort Bureau Chief

FRANKFORT - Joe Megerle was suspicious when a stranger approached him just after sunrise in Devou Park and asked him for the time.

His suspicion turned to fear when, moments later, the man made a U-turn, stopped his car in the middle of the road and walked toward him.

Megerle, a retired Cinergy worker with bad knees and a bad back, reached into his pocket and cocked the hammer on the .25-caliber pistol he carried on his morning walks.

When the stranger pulled a gun from his waist band and rushed Megerle, Megerle shot first. The stranger fell at his feet. Megerle was uninjured.

''I've thought about how I could've gotten out of it, and there was no way,'' Megerle said this week in his first media interview since the shooting Aug. 19, 1999. ''It was like having your back against the wall and a big Mack truck was bearing down on you.

''Where could I have gone?''

Megerle, now 59, credits his life to a 1996 law that made it legal for qualified people to carry a concealed weapon. The law took effect five years ago this month.

When the law was being debated in the legislature, some citizens and officials predicted a blood bath. Street corners and Little League games would dissolve into Wild West-like scenarios, they said, with people settling disagreements over gunfire.

Five years and more than 62,000 permits later, that hasn't proven true.

''I think it's worked out exactly as I predicted it would,'' said state Rep. Bob Damron, D-Nicholasville, who sponsored the 1996 legislation.

''I don't think anyone can find fault with it.''

Police and other officials interviewed could not recall an incident in the last five years in which a gun carried under the law was used illegally.

But anecdotal evidence exists of people defending themselves with permitted guns: An elderly woman in Bowling Green shot a group of teen-age intruders who broke into her home; a man in Louisville used his concealed weapon to thwart a group of gun-brandishing bank robbers.

''We haven't seen large increases in violent crimes involving handguns as a result of people having carry-concealed permits,'' said Lt. Lisa Rudzinski, KSP spokeswoman. ''People who commit vio lent crimes - some of them may have had concealed-carry permits. But the majority of them do not.''

That's because the people who have the permits are law-abiding citizens, say proponents of the law. To obtain a permit, an applicant must clear a thorough background check and complete an eight-hour classroom and target-training course.

That rigorous training and strict background check have been key to the law's success, said Florence Police Chief Tom Kathman.

''They've done a very good job of requiring the training and trying to evaluate those people who are applying,'' he said. ''I think that has been the major focus of whether the program has been successful or not.''

Kathman said the law has created no problem for him. He was neutral on the idea in 1996, he said.

But other police organizations weren't.

The Kentucky Association of Chiefs of Police opposed the bill, saying that more guns would mean more incidences of gun-related injuries. Craig Birdwhistell, executive director of the association, said so far that hasn't happened.

''No, we haven't experienced the problems that some of our chiefs of police have anticipated,'' he said.

Birdwhistell said despite the statistics, the Kentucky police chief's association is still against an armed populous.

''I don't think our membership have changed their minds,'' said Birdwhistell, a former Georgetown police chief. ''They don't think that putting more weapons out on the street is the way to solve crime.''

Megerle, though, said it's the only thing that saved him from being a victim of crime. Megerle has often wondered how he could have avoided shooting James Kennedy, but he's never second-guessed his decision to do so.

Kennedy, who was hit in the head and chest, recovered. He pleaded guilty this summer to charges of robbery and being a persistent felony offender and was sentenced to 15 years in prison. He'd previously served time for burglary, receiving stolen property and disorderly conduct.

Megerle counts his blessings. ''If it wasn't for that firearm, I could have very well been hurt,'' he said.

Publication date: 10-13-01


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To: Travis McGee
This "weapons for the shoguns and samurais only" attitude makes me crazy.

That's because these evil ones have the mistaken impression that everyone's life belongs to the government, and they are the government, at least at the local level. That's the attitude of an oriental despot, and fits them perfectly.

Intellectually and morally, these scum are no better than some raghead mullah.

41 posted on 10/14/2001 10:21:24 AM PDT by 300winmag
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To: 300winmag
" If your going to carry a weapon "

Anyone truly considering concealed carry should check these sites

IDPAs main premise is real life scenarios,

http://idpa.com

http://www.packing.org/


42 posted on 10/14/2001 10:50:04 AM PDT by Pete-R-Bilt
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To: the irate magistrate
''They don't think that putting more weapons out on the street is the way to solve crime.''

Yeah, forget the evidence that contradicts our "doctrine." let's not let reality get in the way of sticking to our P.C. guns.

The lesson of reality is that, in order for a crime to be "solved," a crime must first have taken place. Doesn't look like the police chiefs' standard take on this problem would have done Mr. Megerle much good.

Reality says that we're talking crime avoidance here, not crime solving.

The police chiefs' standard dogma just leaves people ripe for helpless victimhood. Their "braces-on-the-brains" approach to this problem is not only intellectually dishonest, but quite shameful in its disregard for the personal security of citizens. JMHO.

GREAT article, the irate magistrate. Thanks for the bump! best, bb.

43 posted on 10/14/2001 10:59:36 AM PDT by betty boop
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To: the irate magistrate
Right-on!!

The Right Of The People To Keep And Bear Arms Shall Not Be Infringed!!

An Armed Citizen, Is A Safe Citizen!!

No Guns, No Rights!!

Molon Labe!!

44 posted on 10/14/2001 1:11:56 PM PDT by blackie
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To: Landru
I live in Northern KY - the Greater Cincinnati area.

We are often considered a suburb of Ohio, since mostly all of our local news coverage comes from the media across the river.

In the future my family and I are considering moving closer to the "heartland" of good ol' KY.

45 posted on 10/14/2001 3:19:04 PM PDT by pocat
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To: Squantos
Smart.

Note to self: Get some ankles, and a pocket. Waistband I got plenty of... Write MoGuns on shopping list.

46 posted on 10/15/2001 7:38:49 AM PDT by packrat01
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To: pocat
"In the future my family and I are considering moving closer to the 'heartland' of good ol' KY."

Hell, ya can't go wrong there, 'cat.
Just close your eyes & throw a dart at a map of the state; let fate take over from there.

KY is somthing else...and I might add it'd be hard for a fella to miss the fact KY has some of the prettiest ladies on planet earth.

47 posted on 10/15/2001 7:39:45 AM PDT by Landru
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To: Native American Female Vet
Gaaa, it's good to see you girl! I had wondered where you had gotten off to.
50 posted on 10/15/2001 9:35:22 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: VW-Cat-Man
you're absolutely correct!
51 posted on 10/15/2001 10:21:20 AM PDT by the irate magistrate
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To: packrat01
LOL......... Ditto on the waistband wasteland !

Stay Safe !

52 posted on 10/15/2001 2:25:06 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: Landru
KY has some of the prettiest ladies on planet earth.

Yep - I married one. She's mean, though ; )

You said you just moved to the area? Where ya from?

53 posted on 10/15/2001 4:19:25 PM PDT by pocat
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To: pocat
"Yep - I married one. She's mean, though ; )"

Good grief!!
With a sexy Kentucky drawl as she growls at'cha, too??
-sigh-
The combination I love the most; I gotta admit...
I always enjoyed telling a Lady, "Ya can whip me & beat me; but never make me feel cheap." ;^)
But with your kinda a gal, telling 'em that wouldn't eeeeeeeven be necessary. {g}

"You said you just moved to the area? Where ya from?"

Why, I come (last) from the center of gravity; Champaign/Urbana in Illinois.
A woeful place.
~To be avoided as much as anthrax spores.

54 posted on 10/16/2001 7:07:54 AM PDT by Landru
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To: Landru
Reminds me of a joke:

A small-town Southern girl gets on a plane and sits next to a big-city yankee lady.

Being the polite southern belle, she asks the lady, "So, where ya from?"

The yankee woman snobbishly replies, "Some place where we know better than to end a sentence with a preposition."

The southern girl then says, "So, where ya from, bitch?"

55 posted on 10/16/2001 5:52:29 PM PDT by pocat
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To: xm177e2
"No amount of FACTS will convince ME, I'm... LIBERAL MAN the steadfast bastion of Left-Wingedness! Some Superheroes wear capes, others tights, but you'll know LIBERALMAN when you see him because of the big L on my forehead. Of course, sometimes I wear tights, too, but not as part of my superhero gig..."

No Picture?

LOL!

56 posted on 10/16/2001 5:58:43 PM PDT by Mr. Bungle
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To: the irate magistrate
Joe Megerle was suspicious when a stranger approached him just after sunrise in Devou Park and asked him for the time.

Unfortunately a similar incident happened in San Antonio a few years back. Two tourist, a man and his wife were killed because they didn't have a gun to protect themselves.

57 posted on 10/17/2001 4:59:37 AM PDT by Brownie74
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To: Brownie74; xm177e2; Mr. Bungle; pocat
The liberal elite in government is concerned about citizen resistance.

They really don't care if we shoot one another or not. They don't care if we're defensless.

An armed citizenry is a threat to their power.

58 posted on 10/17/2001 7:48:17 AM PDT by the irate magistrate
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To: the irate magistrate
An armed citizenry is a threat to their power.

Right. Wasn't it Jefferson that said that when the government fears the people, that is freedom. But, when the people fear the government, that is tyranny.

59 posted on 10/17/2001 7:56:00 AM PDT by Brownie74
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To: Brownie74; Mercuria; AnnaZ; reformjoy
Welles, the author of "1984" and "Animal Farm" was a socialist to the core but he did fear government tyranny. An article appeared in The New American magazine back in March, 2000, wherein he stated that "expensive weapons were the weapons of tyranny but cheap weapons were the weapons of freedom". For that reason, may God bless the "Saturday-night specials" which will keep us from tyranny!

miss print

60 posted on 10/18/2001 7:15:44 AM PDT by miss print
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