Posted on 10/11/2001 9:39:48 AM PDT by malakhi
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Maybe you should write my parents. They obviously didn't raise me right. I've never called anybody this on these threads. But I humbly call you a moron.
I'm not quite sure. I think it was one of our catholic friends who came up with it first. I picked up on it and now its a "neverending" trademark.
If animals are in Heaven, it will be because their presence adds to our joy.
Two or three years ago if I had read this, I would have been sure that Christ had returned, and I had missed the boat.
Back then I saw animal worship on the way in, but since I had put it on the same plain as homosexuality or Idolatry, I thought it would go away, but it didn't, and now we have Christians defending it.
We seem to think that God gets so involved in our lives, he even develops our taste, habits, and likes and dislikes. I suppose that as I write, some animal loving monk somewhere is searching diligently for a paradox scripture that can be used to support this nonsense, and before long, it will be doctrine.
God made the animals that he saw could be domesticated, to die much earlier then we do, so we humans couldnt get overly attached to them, but we did it anyway.
I think it is a sign of a sick spoiled and selfish society that will even entertain such a thing, to think that just because we develop an attachment to an animal, that God is suddenly changing his rules to fit us. Soon they will be giving last rites, baptizing and feeding them Eucharist dog chow.
If we allow dogs and cats to obtain this status of having a soul, then anyone who has any kind of a pet can do the same, and soon the church will look like a pet store. Remember that with out the Spirit of God, all perish and have no quickening. Mankind is the only one that God has chosen to work with, and animals were put here for our enjoyment and nothing more.
Prov 26:11 As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.
Dogs are mentioned many times, but always in a derogatory way, they were an unclean animal to the Jew, as was the cat, of which is not mentioned once in the Bible
Satan has turned everything up side down in this world, even the snake has been given a status as a great pet for some, it would seem that anything that God put down, man has gone out of his way to give new status.
Mal 3:6 For I am the Lord, I change not;
Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
I doubt seriously if God is going to change his eternal plan just because we have a pet that has put up with us where no one else has been able to. :-}
It doesn't say there will be no animals in heaven, and if I remember right, some of the animals were fashioned after heavenly beings, so there will no doubt be many there, I was referring to peoples earthly pets.
If you acknowledge that there will be animals in Heaven, then why not people's earthly pets? I know of nothing in scripture that prohibits this possibility.
Does this mean that the thread now divides after so many post, and we have to go to the top of the thread and choose which section we want to go to?
Is this something new, to allow for more post per thread?
I'm not sure how a Jew can figure out a way through your redemption plan to allow for pets, but in the Christian faith, we are required to have the Holy Spirit which will quicken at Gods command, and with out that spirit, we decay back into the earth and stay there until the judgement.
No Spirit, no eternal life.
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Nevermind that I rejected you as a heretic long ago (#84 on Thrd 67), you seem to either be very dense or have not read many of the postings made on this subject - or choose to ignore them?.
My post #43 on Thrd #137 dealt conclusively with early church history. (Go read it!)
For those who don't have the inclination to search out this post, all Christians until about 250 A.D. were Baptists and baptised Believers as did John the Baptist - immersed as adults previously saved. The rupture in the church at that time that finally resulted in Catholicism caused these early Christians to be called Anabaptists as they were opposed to the unScriptural practice of infant baptism - Baptists were already in existence when Romanism came into being.
"Were it not that the Baptists have been grievously tormented and cut off with the knife during the past twelve hundred years they would swarm in greater numbers than all the reformers." (Roman Catholic Cardinal Stanislaus Hosius, 1504-1579, official representative of the pope and presiding officer of the Council of Trent.)
Incidentally, your own Proud 2B admitted the RC Church covered up these persecutions in his post #182 on Thrd #129.
So, like your RC buddy pegleg, you just cannot handle TRUTH! Baptist churches that had existed from apostolic times developed a denominational unity in Switzerland in 1523 in response to the chaos of the Reformation - Baptists are not Reformers!
There are many other sources that verify these facts of history - they are just not in the Catholic Encyclopedia.
Who are "the faithful"?
True. No evidence in Scripture---amen on this statement. I've looked and looked for it, but it just isn't there. Thanks for the quotes from the Fathers.
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