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1 posted on 09/16/2006 9:25:31 PM PDT by 60Gunner
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The nursing staff should be charged with depraved indifference to human life and whatever other charges can be filed here. This should have received their immediate attention.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

2 posted on 09/16/2006 9:27:27 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Hey Freepers, if you ever go to the ER with a real emergency situation, either pass out in front of the reception desk, tell them you're on Medicaid or an illegal alien so you can get some service.


3 posted on 09/16/2006 9:27:55 PM PDT by 308MBR (When you call islam "medieval", muslims get mad and act even more "medieval".)
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Excellent post, wish there were more like you.


4 posted on 09/16/2006 9:28:09 PM PDT by varina davis
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Correction to my headline: "Room." I don't know how spellcheck missed that. Sheesh. Sorry, folks.


5 posted on 09/16/2006 9:28:43 PM PDT by 60Gunner (Leftism: preoperational egocentrism with a gun)
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Yea I know about this. It happened in Chicago. Give the family the expected $900,000,000 and forget about it.


6 posted on 09/16/2006 9:30:48 PM PDT by Phibes
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A few years ago, I went to the ER with chest pains. They treated me ASAP. Turns out my heart was/is great, but I had a gallbladder attack of the highest order. They took it out on the same visit. Sure glad I didn't have socialized medicine like Canada, UK.


7 posted on 09/16/2006 9:30:59 PM PDT by umgud
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Exactly my thoughts on the matter.


8 posted on 09/16/2006 9:30:59 PM PDT by NinoFan
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Good post and everything you said is right on.


9 posted on 09/16/2006 9:34:03 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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I had an Uncle pass away this week . At home he showed all the classic symptoms of a heart attack and put off seeking help. By the time his wife called the ambulance and they arrived he had coded. I just can't help but think that if he had just agreed to be seen in the ED early on that he would still be here.

BTW for all you Dr's and nurses on board. I overheard his whole medical history of that day while riding on the elevator with them as I was moving around to do my collections. And no I did'nt repeat any of it to family. It ranged from what had happened in the ED,to where he was at now in the Cath Lab and his chances of making it.
10 posted on 09/16/2006 9:34:43 PM PDT by linn37 (Have you hugged your Phlebotomist today?)
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chest pain + shortness of breath + nausea = heart attack until proven otherwise

This cannot be emphasized enough. Wednesday night my brother experienced this and called his girlfriend to get him some Tums. He refused to let her call an ambulance. A short time later he was DOA in the emergency room.

11 posted on 09/16/2006 9:35:29 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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And the moral of the story for my non-nursing readers out there is: chest pain + shortness of breath + nausea = heart attack until proven otherwise. So if you have these symptoms, don't be stupid.

Worth repeating 100 times. I had these symptoms at work a few years back (age 39), decided to go to the emergency room down the street. 10 minutes later I'm having an angioplasty. Better safe than sorry is what I say. :)

13 posted on 09/16/2006 9:36:56 PM PDT by cryptical (Wretched excess is just barely enough.)
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Thanks for your post. Sad for those touched by this situation, but you maybe have saved a life here, could even be that of a looney lib that's lurking!


14 posted on 09/16/2006 9:36:59 PM PDT by feedback doctor (Lindsay Graham, the conscience of al-Qaeda.)
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FR folks listen up.It feels like someone is leaning on your chest.You can't get comfortable, arm shoulder pain....

Happened to me 3 years ago and I was 36. I am a EMT ( emergency medical technition) so I knew the symptoms. I will say I still walked around denying it for 10 min. before I called 911. Screw embarrassment, when I called I knew who would be coming to my house! This is not a time to be prideful just call and let them take you.

I will tell you why, the faster you get in the less damage you will have. I went in on a monday, had a stint put in wednesday out thursday and went camping in yosemite on saturday. No joke. Cardiac medicine has changed so much in the last 20 years. If I decided to sleep it off most likely it would have been a funeral on saturday.

Dont be a prideful SOB, just call and if you are wrong everyone can be overjoyed... if you are right you will live to see another day, Lord willing.


15 posted on 09/16/2006 9:37:10 PM PDT by Walkingfeather (u)
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Being in the medical field, I agree with your analysis, but I would rather think it "gross negligence". Doesn't homicide require some malicious intent beforehand?

I was only having palpitations one evening and being brought straight back in the ED immediately at the age of 38.

There is no excuse for what happened to that lady, the only other scenario I can think of is that she may have been a frequent flier in the ED , so they didn't take her complaints seriously. Still no excuse. You treat it as an MI unless the tests rule it out conclusively.


16 posted on 09/16/2006 9:37:44 PM PDT by vrwcagent0498 (Mark Levin and Ann Coulter are my patron saints.)
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Doesn't this mean the Governments of France, UK and Canada should be tried for murder for all the poor folks who died waiting for medical treatment there?


17 posted on 09/16/2006 9:37:55 PM PDT by msnimje (Terror Deniers + Holocaust Deniers = A Match made in Hell.)
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This was pure negligence, and a sign of the times when our ERS are over filled with patients, mostly illegals to tell the truth. No excuse for this however.


20 posted on 09/16/2006 9:38:44 PM PDT by ladyinred
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Sounds like the local VA.


21 posted on 09/16/2006 9:39:28 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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I was in an ER twice today(allergic reaction-myself/pain and nasal bleeding-someone else). While I was there there was a sign saying that everyone will be seen on a need basis and not in order of arrival.

Apparently the ER screwed up and downplayed some very serious symptoms. I don't agree with jailtime but I fully back a civil suit.


23 posted on 09/16/2006 9:41:36 PM PDT by Bogey78O (<thinking of new tagline>)
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In my mid-30's I went to E.R. with chest pains and shortness of breath (not the nausea) and could not even get checked in. The place was a madhouse (California of course, but in the suburbs), no nurse would even look me in the eye. After standing there crying for 10 minutes, I finally walked home. Next day saw my doctor, who ran no tests, telling me I was too young for a heart attack, and instead said it must have been a panic attack. I still have never had any sort of a heart exam, although every doctor visit I do report that I intermittently have chest pains. I've been told that maybe if they become worse some futher testing should be done. This has gone on over a period of 8 years now, so I guess I don't have heart problems or I would be dead.


24 posted on 09/16/2006 9:43:04 PM PDT by baa39 (Quid hoc ad aeternitatem?)
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Good advice 60Gunner. I am shocked that this could happen, since as you say, the vast majority of ER treat chest pain and other such symptoms VERY seriously. In fact, they will insist on keeping you for observation no matter how good you feel later. I have seen this happen to a couple of people I know who went in for what turned out to be reflux and anxiety.


27 posted on 09/16/2006 9:44:16 PM PDT by Paradox (The "smarter" the individual, the greater his power of self-delusion.)
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