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Why I Left The Left
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| 7/3/2006
| Seth Swirsky
Posted on 07/04/2006 4:50:08 AM PDT by HansGygi
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To: jsh3180
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"I used to be a hippie liberal as well. My first vote for President was in 1972 at the tender age of 19, I voted McGovern." I hear ya there, though I voted for President Nixon in '72. Only Democrat I have ever voted for was Jimmy Carter and I was so embarrassed of my vote by 1980 that I actively campaigned for Reagan and have been in the GOP camp ever since. This article expresses my feelings to a 'T'.
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posted on
07/04/2006 5:29:19 AM PDT
by
HawaiianGecko
(Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.)
To: Northern Yankee
"Their hatred of this country is stunning."
It has grown to the point where it has become a danger now where it must be confronted and destroyed.
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posted on
07/04/2006 5:31:56 AM PDT
by
DarthVader
(Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
To: HansGygi
The clincher, IMO:
The President understands the big picture -- that if the U.S. doesnt help to remake that volatile region, we will face a nuclear version of 9/11 within the next two or five or 10 years.
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posted on
07/04/2006 5:33:52 AM PDT
by
randita
To: summer
I am Reagan Democrat. I did vote for RR in 84, Bush in 88, Clinton in 92 and 96(you have to admit dole was not a good candidate), sat out 2000, and voted for gwb in 2004. Will i ever vote for a Dem as Pres, possibly, but not in their current state I think my mother is weakening. If my mom, a dyed in the wool democrat, is weakening, how many more of the dem's traditional voters do they plan on losing
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posted on
07/04/2006 5:41:22 AM PDT
by
sachem longrifle
(proud member of the fond Du lac band of the Ojibwa people)
To: HansGygi
"I was surprised by the furor it caused from the likes of Frank Zappa"
"Why are we outlawing words - they are only WORDS".
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posted on
07/04/2006 5:42:11 AM PDT
by
spanalot
To: HansGygi
To: Archon of the East
Nope.
Truman and Ike were there. Though some say that Ike sending the Military Assistance Advisory Group in November 1955 marks the official start of our involvement.
Vietnam War Memorial casualties numbers 1 and 2 were back in 1959.
Kennedy and Johnson dramatically ramped up our troop levels.
Perhaps someone else can comment on Ike's advice to Kennedy when JFK took over. I have heard he had a word or two about it.
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posted on
07/04/2006 5:50:25 AM PDT
by
allen08gop
("Woman is the most powerful magnet in the universe... and all men are cheap metal!")
To: HansGygi
But I was most disappointed with liberal Jews who dont understand that their very existence is rooted in Israels existence Not if they dont live there it isn't.
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posted on
07/04/2006 5:56:47 AM PDT
by
humblegunner
(If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
To: allen08gop
It goes all the way back to Truman:
Letter to President Harry Truman, February 16, 1945. The letter was never answered and was not declassified until 1972
DEAR MR. PRESIDENT:
Our VIETNAM people, as early as 1941, stood by the Allies' side and fought against the Japanese and their associates, the French colonialists.
From 1941 to 1945 we fought bitterly, sustained by the patriotism, of our fellow-countrymen and by the promises made by the Allies at YALTA, SAN FRANCISCO and POTSDAM.
When the Japanese were defeated in August 1945, the whole Vietnam territory was united under a Provisional Republican Government, which immediately set out to work. In five months, peace and order were restored, a democratic republic was established on legal bases, and adequate help was given to the Allies in the carrying out of their disarmament mission.
But the French Colonialists, who betrayed in wartime both the Allies and the Vietnamese, have come back, and are waging on us a murderous and pitiless war in order reestablish their domination. Their invasion has extended to South Vietnam and is menacing us in North Vietnam. It would take volumes to give even an abbreviated report of the crisis and assassinations they are committing everyday in this fighting area.
This aggression is contrary to all principles of international law and the pledge made by the Allies during World War II. It is a challenge to the noble attitude shown before, during, and after the war by the United States Government and People. It violently contrasts with the firm stand you have taken in your twelve point declaration, and with the idealistic loftiness and generosity expressed by your delegates to the United Nations Assembly, MM. BYRNES, STETTINIUS, AND J.F. DULLES.
The French aggression on a peace-loving people is a direct menace to world security. It implies the complicity, or at least the connivance of the Great Democracies. The United Nations ought to keep their words. They ought to interfere to stop this unjust war, and to show that they mean to carry out in peacetime the principles for which they fought in wartime.
Our Vietnamese people, after so many years of spoliation and devastation, is just beginning its building-up work. It needs security and freedom, first to achieve internal prosperity and welfare, and later to bring its small contribution to world-reconstruction.
These security and freedom can only be guaranteed by our independence from any colonial power, and our free cooperation with all other powers. It is with this firm conviction that we request of the United Sates as guardians and champions of World Justice to take a decisive step in support of our independence.
What we ask has been graciously granted to the Philippines. Like the Philippines our goal is full independence and full cooperation with the UNITED STATES. We will do our best to make this independence and cooperation profitable to the whole world.
I am Dear Mr. PRESIDENT,
Respectfully Yours,
(Signed) Ho Chi Minh
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posted on
07/04/2006 5:57:58 AM PDT
by
Puckster
To: allen08gop
One last item:
"Truman never replied to at least eight appeals by Ho Chi Minh for American support of independence and cooperation on the Philippine model. Ho was then compelled to turn to Beijing and Moscow for material aid against returning French troops."
http://hnn.us/roundup/comments/11737.html
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posted on
07/04/2006 6:01:57 AM PDT
by
Puckster
To: HansGygi
To be a Liberal you must......
1) Believe that social programs work and that tax cuts fail, no matter how many times you are proven wrong.
2) Believe that getting tough on crime is wrong, but criminals need tolerance from an evil society.
3) Believe that terminating a pregnancy is a choice, but carrying a firearm for self-defense should not be a choice.
4) Believe that one President's sex with an intern is a "personal matter" while another President's previous possible drug habits should be investigated thoroughly.
etc, etc, etc.
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posted on
07/04/2006 6:04:44 AM PDT
by
Erik Latranyi
(The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
To: Archon of the East
Nixon did his best to try to end the Vietnam war with a victory, by doing the unthinkable - releasing the "dogs of war" and bombing the enemy capital! The Dummies who prosecuted the war through the 60's just "sacrificed" Americans rather than use our maximum force to bring the war to an end.
It wasn't the Dummies' way. But it was also too late for Nixon to save the day. The left had won the propaganda war, and millions died when American military protection was withdrawn from the region. It is amazing to me that any thinking person would put their life in the hands of Dummies.
Of course, in recent years, "Moron Trivia" has opened my eyes. We are plagued by a plethora of ignoramuses in this country.
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posted on
07/04/2006 6:05:29 AM PDT
by
GregoryFul
(cheap, immigrant labor built America)
To: HansGygi
My first vote, in 1980, was for Independent John AndersonMe too. But that was only because I was a big Yes fan. Really.
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posted on
07/04/2006 6:06:28 AM PDT
by
P.O.E.
To: HansGygi
An example of the old saying ...If you are not a democrat in your youth you have no heart..if your not a Conservative when your older you have no brains...
To: HansGygi
Welcome to FR.
I left the Democrat Party, when Iran released our hostages 30 minutes after Presiden Reagan was sworn in.
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posted on
07/04/2006 6:37:05 AM PDT
by
babydoll22
(The facts ma'am, just the facts. I don't give a s**t how you feel.)
To: kjo
I left the left in 1977, after only 1 year of Carter ( yes, i voted for him, the last democrat i ever voted for )
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posted on
07/04/2006 6:49:47 AM PDT
by
joe fonebone
(Time to bring back tar and feathering.)
To: HansGygi
But I was most disappointed with liberal Jews who dont understand that their very existence is rooted in Israels existence and that George W. Bush has been the best friend that Israel has ever had. But because they are less Jewish than they are liberal, they didnt reward Bush with their vote in 2004.
Exactly! This to me is one of the world's greatest mysteries. A race of people clearly targeted for death, and they willingly vote for leftist politicians who aide and assist their eventual destruction.
Welcome to the good guy side, HansGygi!
To: HansGygi
Excellent post! 9/11 was the wake-up call for me. I watched as the Democrats talking points grew closer and closer to the words of OUR ENEMY's! They are on the same Script and it's down right frightening!
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posted on
07/04/2006 6:56:06 AM PDT
by
divine_moment_of_facts
("Liberals see what they believe... Conservatives believe what they see")
To: HansGygi
I never was a liberal, but I used to be a subtly anti-American Briton.
It was your guy Eagleburger, offering Britain an Aircraft Carrier during the Falklands war, who converted me. We (luckily) didn't need it, but the generosity of the offer made me realise that the BBC had long been yanking my chain.
To: HansGygi
Welcome home to FR!! Great post. Thanks. Have a joyous 4th of July.
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posted on
07/04/2006 7:11:10 AM PDT
by
GOP Poet
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