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What are they smoking on Capitol Hill?
Oak Lawn (IL) Reporter ^ | 6/17/04 | Michael M. Bates

Posted on 06/15/2004 9:08:49 AM PDT by Mike Bates

Anti-smoking advocates would like movies that portray smoking to carry an R rating. The Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) doesn’t care for that idea much.

The organization’s resistance might have something to do with the fact that R rated movies as a rule aren’t as profitable as those with softer ratings. Or maybe it’s worried that if a concession is made to one bunch of self-appointed do-gooders, it’ll have to do it for others.

So what does one group, such as the anti-smoking activists, do when another group, such as the MPAA, won’t get with the program?

Run to Congress, of course. Try to get it to force the recalcitrant association into submission.

That happened last month before a Senate committee. The anti-smoking storm troopers must have loved hearing Senator Ron Wyden (D-Oregon) declare: "If something isn't done by the industry, something will be done by Congress."

In some jurisdictions, that would be considered a threat. On Capitol Hill, unfortunately, it’s known as "addressing the issue."

I’m no fan of the MPAA’s rating system. It’s no coincidence that since its introduction audiences have been exposed to much more sex, nudity, violence and profanity than before. That was the way it was intended to work.

Many Americans were too naive to realize what the rating system would do. They thought it would protect them from the raw sewage that’s pandemic in films.

I don’t know about you, but I’ve never heard a couple leaving a movie say, "You know, honey, I liked that movie, but I just wish it had had a lot more cussin’."

There’s been a steady erosion of the standards, such as they are. Movies that 20 years ago would have been rated R are now rated PG-13, perhaps PG.

The only stakeholder that’s been protected by the rating system is the film industry. It can fend off attacks on the trash it cranks out with a "We warned you what was in it."

So the MPAA’s rating system is a sham. But that’s the business of the MPAA, a private organization.

The anti-smoking zealots testifying before the Senate committee argued that children seeing smoking depicted on the screen are more likely to smoke. One of them, a University of California professor, testified that giving an R rating for smoking in a movie "would probably prevent about 200,000 kids a year from starting to smoke."

Probably? About 200,000? That doesn’t sound terribly scientific. It appears to be a guess. With righteousness on your side, though, you can pretty much use whatever numbers you like and not be challenged or even questioned scrupulously.

The witness had an attention-grabbing way of emphasizing his point. He asked the committee: "When are we going to treat smoking as seriously as we treat the word ____?" and here he used THE word. You know, the word that, if used just once in a film, will get it at best a PG-13 rating.

Smoking isn’t healthy. Everyone knows that, and has for a very long time. In 1604, James I of England wrote: "Smoking is a custom loathsome to the eye, hateful to the nose, harmful to the brain, dangerous to the lungs, and in the black, stinking fume thereof nearest resembling the horrible Stygian smoke of the pit that is bottomless." And James didn’t even have the benefit of the surgeon general’s warning on every pack.

Anti-smoking forces have prevailed. They’ve won legislation banning it in many places. They’ve won exorbitant taxation of tobacco. They’ve won billions of dollars in settlements. They’ve won the public relations struggle.

Yet they can’t get over their fixation. For some, nothing less than the total obliteration of smoking and any vestige of it will satisfy them.

The MPAA shouldn’t voluntarily accede to their demands. Every group with an agenda will insist on similar treatment. The Center for Science in the Public Interest, which routinely issues reports warning of the dangers of anything that tastes good, would demand an R rating on movies having pizza, hamburgers or popcorn in them.

And members of Congress such as Senator Wyden need to get a grip. Good grief, those characters aren’t doing even a minimally satisfactory job of what they were elected to do. Why in the world are they dabbling in private organizations’ internal processes?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: andscorpions; congress; movies; mpaa; pufflist; ratings; smoking
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To: Mike Bates

How much you want to bet that the same people who want films which feature smoking to have an R rating are the very same people who think Michael Moore's film should not get an R rating?


21 posted on 06/15/2004 12:56:13 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: ICX
Re: your tag line: Not only could Moore feed a medium sized African village, he could be a medium sized African village.
22 posted on 06/15/2004 1:42:54 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: SheLion
Pity.

He is indeed a pitiable individual, so filled with rage and hate. What ever happened to those peace and love Lefties? Oh, that's right. They never really existed.

23 posted on 06/15/2004 1:45:37 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: A CA Guy
The R rating would be stupid for smoking. They should create a new rating called C for cancer. :-)

And perhaps an O for obesity if characters are seen indulging in fat/carbs.

24 posted on 06/15/2004 1:46:56 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Gabz
Because as far as they are concerned the only rights anyone has are the ones THEY say you have.

Bingo in all too many instances.

25 posted on 06/15/2004 1:47:57 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: NYCVirago
How much you want to bet that the same people who want films which feature smoking to have an R rating are the very same people who think Michael Moore's film should not get an R rating?

Heck, some of them probably think the Moore trash should be mandatory viewing in all schools.

26 posted on 06/15/2004 1:50:07 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Mike Bates

It scares the heck out out me.


27 posted on 06/15/2004 2:56:03 PM PDT by Gabz (RIP President Ronald W. Reagan 1911-2004)
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To: SheLion
RE: Meathead's ...'Situational Ethics'

NAILED HIM !!!

MEGABUMP !!!

28 posted on 06/15/2004 3:02:55 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (Smart Growth ...ISN'T.)
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To: Mike Bates
Anti-smoking advocates would like movies that portray smoking to carry an R rating.

Boy, "Ike: Countdown to D-Day" would have had a XXX rating then. Everybody smoked like chimneys.

I don't smoke, but for pity sakes! Someone get some balance here.

29 posted on 06/15/2004 3:11:17 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Latine loqui coactus sum)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
I don't smoke, but for pity sakes! Someone get some balance here.

BINGO!!!!!!!!!!

30 posted on 06/15/2004 3:36:03 PM PDT by Gabz (RIP President Ronald W. Reagan 1911-2004)
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To: Seadog Bytes
NAILED HIM !!!

Heheh!

There you go!!!

31 posted on 06/15/2004 4:28:41 PM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to remain silent!!)
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To: Mike Bates
He is indeed a pitiable individual, so filled with rage and hate. What ever happened to those peace and love Lefties? Oh, that's right. They never really existed.

The Rats are more vile then I can ever remember them. It's like the last election turned them all into rabid dogs!

They would vote for a trained monkey as long as it was another RAT. They don't care WHO gets into office as long as it's a RAT!

32 posted on 06/15/2004 4:30:56 PM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to remain silent!!)
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To: SheLion
They don't care WHO gets into office as long as it's a RAT!

Pardon me, did you say RAT?

33 posted on 06/15/2004 5:44:59 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Mike Bates
Pardon me, did you say RAT?

That is a HOOT! LOL!

34 posted on 06/15/2004 6:20:08 PM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to remain silent!!)
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To: SheLion
Oh, and then there's:

35 posted on 06/15/2004 6:39:21 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Mike Bates; Eagle9; freedox; chesty_puller; GRRRRR; MouthOfTheSouth; Memother; joan_30; ...

Prohabition through inclination


36 posted on 06/15/2004 7:03:33 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (‘All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.’ TJefferson)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Thanks for the ping!


37 posted on 06/15/2004 10:39:43 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Mike Bates
Oh, and then there's:

Excellent work! I have two more for my collection now!

Thanks, Mike!!!!


38 posted on 06/16/2004 6:12:02 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to remain silent!!)
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To: Mike Bates

This .gif is rated "R"


39 posted on 06/16/2004 6:26:02 AM PDT by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. -- Gen G. Patton Jr)
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To: Condor51
I like that a lot.

40 posted on 06/16/2004 9:34:40 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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