The Truth About the Truth.com

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[Big Guy and Rusty 99]

I saw an ad on tv last night from truth.com and it said that very 8 seconds someone dies from smoking related diseases.

so in 1 minute = 7.5 people die in 1 hour = 450 people die in 1 day = 10,800 people die in 1 week = 75,600 people die in 1 month = 302,400 people die in 1 year = 3,628,800 people die.

does that seem far-fetched to you do? (like a a football field of rainforest lost a day.) How do we call them on this?

[metesky]

They then mumble something, and scurry off to get new talking points from other coven members.

My laugh for the day!

[metesky]

I've been saying this for years about all their stats.

It's the same with gun deaths. They have to throw in suicides and cops doing their jobs to get the number up to the frightening 37,000. Then you think 290 million people and it's miniscule, not an epidemic at all.

[metesky]

The really aggravating add is the radio add by little Emily.

Emily, your dad isn't dead, he ran away!

[Bob J]

Itis if you attribute every single death to smoking.

[SheLion]

The really aggravating add is the radio add by little Emily.

Little Emily? I haven't HEARD this one. My gosh! Am I missing something? hehe!

Dad ran away??? Well, is it also put on by Partnership? Dumb azzes!

[metesky]

I'm sorry, it's not Emily, it's Megan. (slaps forhead)

"My name is Megan. I'm ten years old and I want you to stop smoking. My Daddy used to smoke and now he's dead. I miss my Daddy, blah, blah, blah"

All said in the most annoying voice you could imagine.

I lied Megan, Daddy's not hiding. He committed suicide to get away from you and Mom.

[SheLion]

I lied Megan, Daddy's not hiding. He committed suicide to get away from you and Mom.

LOL! Thanks for letting me know I'm not missing anything. ~growl!

Probably being paid for by smoker's tax dollars......of course!

[E Rocc]

I cannot stand those commercials. One of them was filmed in Houston - I think the one with the hearses. Sanctimonious, haughty twits.

There is nothing on this Earth as san...sancti....sanc...errr....full of themselves as seventeen year olds who are convinced they know everything.

-Eric

[E Rocc]

like a a football field of rainforest lost a day.

This one's easy. They don't factor in re-growth and don't say what kind of "football field" they mean.

-Eric

[CSM]

Since smoking causes these problems, I suppose no non smokers ever contract the diseases and every smoker contracts them. Right?

[Agnes Heep]

Since smoking causes these problems, I suppose no non smokers ever contract the diseases and every smoker contracts them. Right?

Not even plague affects everyone exposed to it. A lot of that has to do with individual factors such as immunity, age, overall health, and probably a host of other things we know nothing about. That doesn't necessarily mean that I'd like to be exposed to plague.

You might want to try this practical experiment: take a six-shot revolver, and have someone randomly load it with two bullets. Hold it to your right temple (or left temple, if you're left-handed) and pull the trigger.

[CSM]

"Not even plague affects everyone exposed to it."

Sure, not 100%. But at minimum a stastically significant amount of those exposed to it. Something around at least half of those exposed to it, otherwise it would be called a plague.

"A lot of that has to do with individual factors such as immunity, age, overall health, and probably a host of other things we know nothing about."

Yep, genetics is the number one cause of all diseases. The rest of it, exposure to chemicals and quality of air, are only related to risk factors. If you have the genetic history of cancer, you can increase the risk of contracting cancer by smoking, or living in a high polution area, it doesn't mean that you are garunteed to get cancer.

Instead, you would prefer to just wip out the talking points that smoking causes these diseases. The convenient way out.

"You might want to try this practical experiment: take a six-shot revolver, and have someone randomly load it with two bullets. Hold it to your right temple (or left temple, if you're left-handed) and pull the trigger."

Ah, the personal attack calling for me to commit suicide. Your example above is devoid of logic. You might be trying to correlate that smokers risk death at a rate of 33% higher than someone without a gun (or with one that isn't loaded). However, the rate of deaths for smokers is lower than the rate as the non smokers. 400K (supposedly) deaths per year due to smoking related iseases (blah, blah). 60 Million smokers. 0.6% of the smokers die per year.

At the same time, 3.0 million non smokers die per year. 200 Million non smokers. 1.5% of the non smokers die. More than twice the rate of death. Hmmm, I say we force people to smoke and cut the rate of death in half for the non smoking population......

[Agnes Heep]

You're wasting a lot of breath for nothing. There are two different issues here: one is political and the other is rational. I can understand the frustration with leftist politicians and other do-gooders trying to mandate healthy living, but whether they do so or not has nothing to do with the debate about whether smoking is good for you. The evidence has been in for a long time: smoking is positively bad for human beings. A good analogy from the other side is the correlation between homosexual activity and HIV. No; not everyone who indulges in rectal sodomy comes down with the disease, but the correlation is irrefutable. The politics of HIV has nothing to do with it; the politics and the science are two completely different issues, to be argued at two separate times. And the fact that some people fudge the statistics for political reasons has no bearing whatsoever on the actual reality of the thing. Additionally, you don't ennoble or help the political side of the cause by trying to deny the scientific/rational side of of the argument. All you succeed in doing is making yourself look like an uninformed fanatic.

[Big Guy and Rusty 99]

I'd like to see more smoking related beatings. Someone lights up ans then one of the clean lung stormtroopers starts with their exasperated coughs and sputtering "you're killing my clean air." Maybe the clean lunger starts to act like their choking but at the same time laying down their 'facts.' The smoker beats the fresh air fachist within an inch of their life. Maybe it's just me, but I'd walk a mile for that.