Two initiatives take aim at indoor smoking

Spokesman Review ^ | 03/17/2004 | Richard Roesler

[writer33]

"This whole thing really infuriates me," he said. "Are they going to next say you can't smoke in your own house or your own car?"

Yes, Bob. They are. They know what's best for you.

"I've never had a cigarette in my mouth," said Anne Gilett, a Mount Vernon keyboardist who said her lung capacity is 50 percent of normal. "I really resent smokers literally taking away my breath."

This is ridiculous. The second hand smoke theory has already been disproven by science. And yet, they still pursue in their fascist style.

[SheLion]

[Sunshine Sister]

Once again the non smokers think that the world needs to meet their need instead of them taking the steps necessary to remove themselves from smoky environment. If you don't like smoke, stay home.

[SheLion]

At a news conference Monday, Carlson was flanked by musicians who said they're tired of performing in smoky clubs. They have no choice, they said.

MUSICIANS?! heh!  Name names, bud.  Most of your musicians smoke AND drink! 

A complete ban is better for workers than allowing smoking to continue in bars and gambling facilities, Nealy said.

A complete ban is going to shut out 30% if not more of the revenue the smoking patrons bring in.  If that revenue isn't coming in, guess what!  The employees lose their jobs.  No revenue, no paycheck.

"There's a whole lot of people who won't be `breathing easy' on the unemployment line," she said.

You said a mouthful, Sister!

Smoking Bans Are Choking The Economy

THE FACTS

Businesses Harmed by Smoking Bans

[SheLion]

Once again the non smokers think that the world needs to meet their need instead of them taking the steps necessary to remove themselves from smoky environment. If you don't like smoke, stay home.

Notice how none of these articles ever mention the Private Property Rights issue? Why aren't these people thinking of this! I guess most think it's the "right" of the government to do with us as they see fit. We DO have rights left!

(I think)

[writer33]

"MUSICIANS?! heh! Name names, bud. Most of your musicians smoke AND drink!"

After they get rid of SUV's, that's next. You can be trusted to drink and smoke, you're simply not smart enough. The government must take care of you, SheLion. :) HA!

[SheLion]

After they get rid of SUV's, that's next. You can be trusted to drink and smoke, you're simply not smart enough. The government must take care of you, SheLion. :) HA!

I stay home and hide. heh!

Come to think of it, I also drive an SUV. LOL! They really hate me. hee hee!

[writer33]

"Come to think of it, I also drive an SUV. LOL! They really hate me. hee hee!"


Oh my, God! A smoking, SUV driver. You probably drink, which means that's the trifecta of sin. Get yourself to the nearest social program now! YOU MUST SEEK HELP BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE! :) HAHA!

[GrandMoM]

Can anyone explain why second hand smoke is BAD for children, while teaching children the how to be a HOMOSEXUAL (which cause many STDS) is GOOD??????????????

[Teacher317]

"If this has worked in six other states, including our biggest-populated state of California, it can work anywhere," he said.

Washington truly is Cali Jr.

[Protagoras]

Yes, Bob. They are. They know what's best for you.

It will be ugly when all this comes to a head. I hope I don't live to see it.

[stljoe71]

"This whole thing really infuriates me," he said. "Are they going to next say you can't smoke in your own house or your own car?"

Actually in New York it is illegal to smoke in your company car so it's getting pretty close

[Just another Joe]

Oh my, God! A smoking, SUV driver. You probably drink, which means that's the trifecta of sin.

But she's not a white, heterosexual, christian, social drinking, smoking, hunting, CCW approving, male so she's safe..... so far.

I, OTOH, am toast.

[Just another Joe]

It will be ugly when all this comes to a head. I hope I don't live to see it.

I, OTOH, hope I DO.

[writer33]

"I, OTOH, am toast."


That's right. She gets a free pass, because she is likely hit hardest most of the time. :)

[MrB]

Classical Liberalism includes the following:

*an ethical emphasis on the INDIVIDUAL as a rights-bearer prior to the existence of any state, community, or society,

*the support of the RIGHT OF PROPERTY carried to its economic conclusion, a free-market system,

*the desire for a LIMITED CONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNMENT to protect INDIVIDUALS' rights from others and from its own expansion, and

*the universal (global and ahistorical) applicability of these above convictions.

From: The Rise, Decline, and Reemergence of Classical Liberalism

These anti-smoking, self called "liberals" are just fascists, and they should be called as such.

[Just another Joe]

That's right. She gets a free pass, because she is likely hit hardest most of the time. :)

No, no, you don't know SheLion that well, do you?
Let me fix that for you.

That's right. She gets a free pass, because she is likely hits hardest most of the time. ;^)

[Protagoras]

I, OTOH, hope I DO.

To each his own. I guess you have never seen a real war close up.

Some people like death and destruction. Body parts everywhere, dead children and women.

Be careful what you hope for.

[swarthyguy]

Disastrous for business, property rights and the general principle of freedom of association.

Unemployed bar and restaurant help must appreciate their increased healthiness. As must certain musicians.

All hail the American Taliban.

Quelle mal, indeed.

Viva France!

[Don W]

Junk science or not, here in BC (bring cash) when bylaws passed by the local "regional districts" couldn't eliminate smoking in private clubs, the Worker's Compensation Board (!) enacted worksite safety protocols that basically forced all public eateries, pubs, lounges and private clubs to build outdoor "smoking" decks and eliminate indoor smoking "to protect the servers" from ETS/SHS.

If one way doesn't work, the "Smoke Gnatzi's" (great title Gabz) always find a way around common sense and decency in order to promote and impose their will upon the rest of society.