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OHIO: Angry smokers vow to fight cigarette bans
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| 2-7-04
| John Seewer
Posted on 02/19/2004 11:48:22 AM PST by SheLion
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1
Twelve years ago I quit smoking and managed to stay quit for four years. I DID become a very nasty ex-smoker who sniffed and coughed and "eeeewed" every time a friend had a smoke.
As hubby always says, "what goes around, comes around" and here I sit, addicted... again. And it's much harder to fight than it was last time. Take my word for it, stay humble!
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posted on
02/19/2004 10:11:49 PM PST
by
Marie
(My coffee cup is waaaaay too small to deal with this day.)
To: Iron Matron
People who are drawn to nicotine are AGRESSIVE and quick to anger. Here are my bumper sticker suggestions:
WARNING: TELLING SMOKERS "You know, you really should quit," IS HAZARDOUS TO YOUR HEALTH.
I CAN STILL OPERATE A CAR WITHOUT KILLING ANYONE AFTER I HAVE A CIGARETTE.
Have a cigarette! Support your local tax thieves!
I SMOKE. YOU TAKE PROZAZ. WHICH ONE OF US HAS MEDICAL DOCUMENTATION THAT THEY HAVE A MENTAL ILLNESS?
I SMOKE. YOU TAKE PROZAC. IN SOME STATES IT'S ILLEGAL FOR YOU TO BUY A GUN. I STILL CAN. Think about it.
IF THEY TAKE MY CIGARETTES THEN THEY WILL TAKE YOUR SUGAR.
IT'S NOT ABOUT CIGARETTES, IT'S ABOUT LIBERTY. IT'S ABOUT CHOICE.
NOBODY HAS EVER BEEN IN AN ACCIDENT FROM "SMOKING AND DRIVING".
I'M SURE YOU HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO THAN BITCH AT A SMOKER. (If you don't, might I make a few suggestions?)
SMOKING MIGHT KILL ME. POINTING THAT OUT WILL SURELY KILL YOU.
IF YOU AVIOD CIGARETTES, DRINK MODERATELY, EXERCISE REGULARLY, ONLY HAVE SAFE SEX, EAT WELL AND ALWAYS WEAR YOUR SEAT BELT YOU'RE GOING TO DIE ANYWAY. GET OVER IT.
I'LL DIE IF I DON'T QUIT SMOKING? WELL, OTHERS WILL DIE IF I DO.
THE ONLY THING THAT KEEPS ME FROM RIPPING APPART RUDE, BUSYBODY PEOPLE WHO WOULD CRITISIZE A STRANGER FOR BUYING A PACK OF CIGARETTES IS A NICE, RELAXING SMOKE.
WARNING: DON'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT MY CIGARETTES IF YOU ARE MORE THAN 10 POUNDS OVERWEIGHT.
OH! IS MY SMOKE BOTHERING YOU? WELL, YOUR PERFUME IS GAGGING ME.
I REALLY WANT TO QUIT SMOKING, BUT I JUST CAN'T BRING MYSELF TO DO IT, KNOWING HOW IT P@SSES YOU OFF SO MUCH.
I CAN'T SMOKE IN YOUR BUSINESS? THEN YOU CAN'T HAVE MY MONEY.
A LIBERAL'S COMPASSION: "Smoking is terribly addictive and often causes cancer? ALRIGHT! WE GOT 'EM BY THE B@LLS! LET'S TAX THE SH$T OUT OF 'EM!?
DYING EXSMOKER: I became addicted to cigarettes as a child. Now I'm dying a horrible, painful death. LIBERAL JUDGE: That's just terrible! Let's take money from the Tobacco Industry and do everything with it BUT help smokers quit and pay for their medical care!! (aside) *here's the money you wanted for AIDS research, john*
SMOKING RELATED DEATHS ARE PREVENTABLE. SO IS AIDS. PICK YOUR BATTLES.
If I stop buying cigarettes you will find yourself gladly buying them for me.
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posted on
02/19/2004 10:29:43 PM PST
by
Marie
(My coffee cup is waaaaay too small to deal with this day.)
To: greasepaint
In Ohio, are Republicans, or Democrats, doing this? (enacting smoking bans) How much do you know about smoking bans across the United States? There is a very long story behind the bans and how they started.
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posted on
02/20/2004 4:05:18 AM PST
by
SheLion
(Curiosity killed the cat BUT satisfaction brought her back!!!)
To: Michael.SF.
"Some are simply born that way, some devlop into it through external factors, others choose it."
I don't believe the "born that way" argument is true at all. If it were true, the genes would be extinct by now. The inability to reproduce would have caused self extinction. The actions being taken now are the equivelant of putting homosexuals on the protected species list! The enviro libs love adding bugs and mold to that list.
64
posted on
02/20/2004 5:10:09 AM PST
by
CSM
(My Senator is so stupid he'd have to get naked to count to 21 and my Governor wouldn't be able to!)
To: AGreatPer
No problem, since you came down on the right side of the issue I accepted your post. Actually, mine was an invitation for just such a response.
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posted on
02/20/2004 5:11:47 AM PST
by
CSM
(My Senator is so stupid he'd have to get naked to count to 21 and my Governor wouldn't be able to!)
To: Marie
Did the doc also ask about guns in the home?
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posted on
02/20/2004 5:13:53 AM PST
by
CSM
(My Senator is so stupid he'd have to get naked to count to 21 and my Governor wouldn't be able to!)
To: Marie
"NOBODY HAS EVER BEEN IN AN ACCIDENT FROM "SMOKING AND DRIVING"."
Actually completely false. That's why non-smokers can get better rates. With a lit fire stick in your mouth, all you have to do is drop it on your seat to watch the fun start.
"Oh, the injustice of it all!" If only chimney people had lives...If I force my cat to smoke, will I be arrested for animal cruelty? Undoubtedly.
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posted on
02/20/2004 8:27:39 AM PST
by
at bay
(no deals, Jacquelyn, only choice of lobster, steak or chicken for last dinner party of one)
To: at bay
"I saw them come for the smokers, and I was silent. Then they came for the tobacco chewers and I remained silent. Then they came for the tobacco snuff users and still I said nothing.
When they came for me, the lollipop user, there were no obnoxious smokers to insult me and I shared a lollipop with the kids."
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posted on
02/20/2004 8:30:57 AM PST
by
at bay
(no deals, Jacquelyn, only choice of lobster, steak or chicken for last dinner party of one)
To: at bay
We don't pay higher rates for our CAR INSURANCE, you dolt. My point is that smoking a cigarette doesn't impair a smoker's reflexes or ability to operate machinery. Not like drinking or drugs. Smoking while driving is about as dangerous as eating while driving. Probably less because we can still use both hands.
And if you think that smokers should have higher rates for smoking and driving, then so should anyone who eats a sandwich at the wheel, people with distracting babies in the back seat, people who operate a radio while the vehicle is in motion, etc. And what about smokers who never smoke in the car? Should their rates go up based on what they might do? Then so should the rates of people who admit to drinking. They MIGHT drink and drive... we really can't risk it.
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posted on
02/20/2004 9:37:52 AM PST
by
Marie
(My coffee cup is waaaaay too small to deal with this day.)
To: CSM
Did the doc also ask about guns in the home?Nope, just wanted to know if there were evil cigarettes around. If they ever do ask about guns, I'm ready for 'em.
"As my child is not here for a gunshot wound, I find your question invasive and offensive. It really is none of your business whether or not my family chooses to exercise our second ammendment rights. I refuse to answer on the grounds that the question is an invasion of our privacy."
It's interesting that they aren't interested to know if any of us are HIV positive.
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posted on
02/20/2004 9:42:06 AM PST
by
Marie
(My coffee cup is waaaaay too small to deal with this day.)
To: at bay
If I force my cat to smoke, will I be arrested for animal cruelty.And if you did to your cat what you do to your partner, you be arrested. Maybe you should stop that behavior as well.
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posted on
02/20/2004 9:43:35 AM PST
by
Marie
(My coffee cup is waaaaay too small to deal with this day.)
To: Marie
</I>Italians OFF.
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posted on
02/20/2004 9:45:36 AM PST
by
Marie
(My coffee cup is waaaaay too small to deal with this day.)
To: SheLion
The stand won the hearts of smokers, but they lost their restaurant when the plazas owner evicted them in September for flouting the law.
The best approach here would have been to have the employees, customers, patrons, and sympathizers boycott every business in the plaza (and any others owned by the owner) and make it clear why.
A smoking ban around here would go over about as well as Prohibition did, and be enforced about as well.
-Eric
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posted on
02/20/2004 10:23:16 AM PST
by
E Rocc
("Cultural Conservative": One who considers "decency" to be more important than liberty.)
To: qam1
Thanks for your Ireland info.
The last time I was in Dublin(1997),I was astonished at how crowded and chaotic it is at night over there,and I can't imagine what it will be like once the pubs become smoke-free.
I don't know if drinking outdoors is legal in Dublin,but I saw a lot of it outside of the pubs,and the place will become just one big outdoor barroom if they can't smoke inside.
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posted on
02/20/2004 10:28:30 AM PST
by
Mears
To: Marie
I loved all your bumper sticker ideas. Are they copyrighted anywhere?
The villification of smokers has led to
1. job discrimination - I know employers that wont hire a smoker - even if the smoker does not smoke at work.
2. Public ridicule - smokers are forced to backrooms or outside on the street - a lot like they used to treat the negro population
3. Lierals tell children in our schools that tobacco is a drug - without defining the differance between something like cocain and tobacco (I actually had one of my friends children (about 7 years old) tell ME (ME! AN ADULT!) - that I was "using drugs" Now, couldn't something like that be misunderstood if a cop happened by?
If I pay to buidl government buildings, I should have a place to smoke in them!
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posted on
02/20/2004 11:08:36 AM PST
by
Iron Matron
(Civil Disobediance? It's not just for liberals anymore! FIGHT FOR FREEDOM!)
To: Devil_Anse
If they don't like the law, they just ignore it! So.... why can't a smoker do the same?
So long as they have a class action lawsuit in the works during their civil disobediance, I dont see why not!
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posted on
02/20/2004 11:09:45 AM PST
by
Iron Matron
(Civil Disobediance? It's not just for liberals anymore! FIGHT FOR FREEDOM!)
To: Iron Matron
I'll help - I'm a smoker in Pittsburgh and I know that ban is going to find it's way here. I don't know HOW I can help but I will.
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posted on
02/20/2004 11:14:04 AM PST
by
GYPSY286
To: Gabz
There is a group in Texas and the guy who started it is pretty vocal and pretty savvy. She Lion - can you help me out here. Do you have the URL for Dave Pickrell's Smokers Fighting Discrimination? If so, could you post it - I can't fid it in my folders.
That's great! I'm in Texas! I'll be looking for URL
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posted on
02/20/2004 11:19:34 AM PST
by
Iron Matron
(Civil Disobediance? It's not just for liberals anymore! FIGHT FOR FREEDOM!)
To: Mears
won't visit any country that prohibits smoking
I dont visit any restaurant that bars smoking. I'm a good cook anyway!
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posted on
02/20/2004 11:22:44 AM PST
by
Iron Matron
(Civil Disobediance? It's not just for liberals anymore! FIGHT FOR FREEDOM!)
To: greasepaint
In Ohio, are Republicans, or Democrats, doing this?
I dont know about in Ohio, but I do know that Republicans and Democrats both indulge in this unconstitutional behavior.
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posted on
02/20/2004 11:24:22 AM PST
by
Iron Matron
(Civil Disobediance? It's not just for liberals anymore! FIGHT FOR FREEDOM!)
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