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"The victims and victors of violence past club would draw and walk to or approach the target while firing fast and accurate and continue till they run dry or (for the best of em) counting their rounds for a perfect speed reload on the move."

In your opinion, Squantos, what's the best way one could practice this? Most ranges (including the two I go to) don't allow this sort of thing.

I carry, and have a Florida CCW. My piece is a Springfield "loaded" 1911A1, carry it in a Fobus paddle holster with a spare mag on the opposite side.

The tactic above sounds like the most promising, especially in the adrenaline-charged atmosphere of a real gunfight. Obviously, one should practice BOTH tactics to refine one's skills, but ranges nowadays seem to restrict all shooting except careful aimed fire. Both of mine even prohibit practicing the draw, as well as reapid-fire and "point" shooting. Any advice?

Go to IDPA.org I think. Find an IDPA club in your area or start one and get the ranges to sign on for a piece of club fees. International Defensive Pistol Assoc is for the money the best and most realistic "game" lol going. MY IDPA club is but one of several in my area and we practice with real world scenarios often drawn from local crime scenes. I'm an IDPA certified range safety officer and now I'm real sorry I spent the money on a lifetime IPSC membership, because the IPSC mentality and the $5000 "race guns" is a total waste of time and effort for something that does not come close to what's real for the street. In IDPA the "race gun" is a banned item. You carry what you can carry on the street, either revolver or semi-auto. Nothing smaller than 9mm. Typically, you draw from a concealed position and "solve the problem." There is a limit of 18 rds on each possible problem, versus the almost unlimited numbers of rounds that can be expended in an IPSC course.

"IDPA NOW........IDPA FOREVER!!!"

Join IDPA and attend their matches and shoot at the ranges that support them.....and allow practice sessions to compete in the IDPA.

Aside from the IDPA dedicate 2/3's of your range time to fast , safe presentation and fast accurate hits. Hits as ya know are all that counts so speed without hits is pretty .........pretty scary. You as I carry a 1911A1 and thus know it is the FASTEST semi-auto handgun in trained and practiced hands. If you can't put rounds on paper or steel fast then look at your carry round ...too hot ? or do ya need to work on the grip and or the gripping surface...ie; checkering, stippling, poorboy (my choice) skateboard tape, Jerry Barnhardts Burner grips ? What ever works.

The last third of your range time is policing brass to keep your range environment pristene and your reloading costs down....:o)

My last suggestion (in this post) is to get a IWB leather holster with a thumbreak if your new to the 1911A1 or you safety doesn't have a positive strong fit. I don't like holsters that clip on or paddle as they tend to stick out and have play in em when ya draw. Kramer makes a really nice one as does Galco.

Stay Safe LC !

Ranges are okay to practice some skills, and they're better than nothing by a long shot. But a free-fire zone "cinder pit" or similar is WAY better! That's where you can really get freeform and make up games as you go. Spin draw fire, dive roll fire, run from cover to cover, etc. Plus, much better targets are possible, at a variet of ranges, angles and elevations. Have a friend call out your targets just before drawing, so that you don't know until that moment what you'll be shooting at.

The main point is that you can learn a lot of better skills outdoors with no lanes and rangemasters. Not pinging on ranges, they have to be that way for safety. But you'll learn a LOT more by getting out into a free-fire zone pit.

Start saving your steel cans for outdoor targets. They move when you hit them, and last longer than thin aluminum. Best are big head-sized cans like large coffee cans. Scatter them all over the hillside, and blast away!