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The FReeper Foxhole Profiles - The Cigarette Camps - US Army in Le Havre - September 26th, 2003
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Posted on 09/26/2003 3:57:09 AM PDT by snippy_about_it

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The Point System


At the core of the U.S. Army Demobilization Plan was the so-called 'Point System.' Points were awarded for years of service overseas, medals and other commendations received, campaign battle stars earned, as well as other factors. The magic point total for being sent home was 85. Many men had more points, and those that had the most were slated to be sent home first. Following is a pretty typical point-system computation table (though probably incomplete):

   At the core of the U.S. Army Demobilization Plan was the so-called 'Point System.' Points were awarded for years of service overseas, medals and other commendations received, campaign battle stars earned, as well as other factors. The magic point total for being sent home was 85. Many men had more points, and those that had the most were slated to be sent home first. Following is a pretty typical point-system computation table (though probably incomplete):

Number of months in the armed forces 1 point per month
Number of months overseas 1 point per month
Number of children 12 points per child
Number of battle stars earned by unit 5 points per star
Purple Heart winner 5 points per award
Soldier's Medal winner 5 points per award
Bronze Star winner 5 points per award
Presidential Unit Citation winner 5 points per award


GI were constantly badgering company clerks to get errors corrected and adjustments made to their point totals, which were recorded on their "Adjusted Service Rating Cards." Those men with the magic number of 85 points, or more, were to return to the United States, while those with fewer points were transferred out to make room for high point men from other organizations.

Those with 80 to 84 points were sent to other units in the ETO and some of those with even fewer points were sent home on furlough and then went on to retraining for duty in the Pacific. The latter were perhaps the most fortunate of all, since the war in the Pacific soon ended and many of them were discharged before the higher-point men in the ETO got home.


An Army band plays a farewell tune as a Victory Ship leaves Le Havre bound for the States.


Occupation troops also continued to arrive at Le Havre and spend a few days at a "cigarette camp" before receiving final orders throughout 1945, although by 1946, they were falling into disrepair and were becoming little more than the ramshackle collections of tents pitched in vast mudholes that they were two years before.



Today, little remains. Names of GIs carved into trees in the surrounding forests. Some scuffed tarmac. Perhaps a wooden structure or two absorbed into the French villages that have grown up around the original sites.



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1 posted on 09/26/2003 3:57:09 AM PDT by snippy_about_it
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... Of Soldiers & Cigarettes


Hollywood bombshell Rita Hayworth, a favorite wartime pinup queen, wears a cigarette well in this sultry pose from the postwar smash hit Gilda.


Cigarettes were one of the few pleasures that an American GI could avail themselves of no matter where they were. Crouching in the bottom of a wet foxhole. Sitting in the belly of a C-47 waiting to jump into the darkness. Riding in the back of a deuce-and-a-half to God-knows-where. There was nothing more relaxing than a cigarette during moments of respite before the return of battle.

In 1941, U. S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt had made tobacco a protected crop. Cigarettes, though, were included in GI C-rations, and tobacco companies sent millions of free "butts" to GIs, mostly the popular brands; the people on the home front had to make do with off-brands like Rameses or Pacayunes. Tobacco consumption was so fierce during the war that a shortage developed.

By the end of the war, cigarette sales were at an all-time high. In 1942, the American Tobacco Co. (ATC) responded to the dye shortage by changing the Lucky Strike package from green to white. Its slogan: "Lucky Strike Green Has Gone to War." The ad campaign coincided with the U.S. invasion of North Africa. Sales increased by 38%. A year later, Lucky Strike's green/gold pack turned all-white, with a red bull's eye. The war effort needed titanium, contained in Lucky's green ink, and bronze, contained in the gold.

ATC took this opportunity to change the color of the pack – hated by women because it invariably clashed with their dresses – to white. By war's end, cigarettes had become a currency throughout the ETO's black markets (along with chocolate and nylon stockings).

Once France had been liberated, the U.S. Army established a series of camps just outside of the harbor city of Le Havre. Each was named after a popular American cigarette of the period, primarily for security reasons: Lucky Strike, Old Gold, Philip Morris, Twenty Grand, and Chesterfield, among others. In 1944-45, the camps were essentially depots for new arrivals bound for the front lines bordering the West Wall (the "Siegfried Line").

These replacements were desperately needed to bring the American divisions being bloodied in places like the Hürtgen Forest, the Saar, and, later, the Bulge. After V-E day, they were transformed into way stations for men returning home. Like the cigarettes they were named after, they were a pleasant diversion from war no matter how short-lived, though the men who spent time there going in either direction certainly cursed them at the time.
2 posted on 09/26/2003 4:01:08 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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In their own words.




"We arrived in Lucky Strike early in January 1945. Mud, cold chow, and misery were the menu. One Sunday afternoon, soon after getting there, I was cutting something with my knife (a hunting knife I had purchased Stateside). It slipped and I cut my left thumb joint. It was bleeding, so I ran over to the medical tent they'd set up. A second lieutenant was on duty and he put two clamps on my cut. He began to sweat, so I asked him 'what's your problem?' 'You're my first patient,' he replied. I told him 'You'd better get used to it.'



We stayed at Lucky Strike for three or four days, then we marched out. On the way to the front we saw our first casualties. On April 15, 1945, we went crossed into Cologne, Germany in trucks, and then right outside of the city we got out. We marched for a while and put up for the night. The next morning we set out again and had not gone far when we saw a sign pointing back to Cologne (in German). It said "14 km." Right then we got pinned down by machine gun fire. I was shot right through the nose when I lifted my head to see where the gun was. (It was in the tower of a courthouse.) I jumped up to run to get to a house to take cover, but the gunner got me again. Through my right calf this time. So there was no more of that!

Earl L. Fort
97th Infantry Division, 387th Regiment
3rd Btn, I Co., 1st Plt., 2nd Sqd.
August 2001


"I was a member of the 11th Armored Division, which was deactivated, and I ended up finally in the Ohio Division. My number — 59, I think — came up for return to the U.S. in early January 1946. I do not recall the name of the cigarette camp that I shipped through, but Herbert Tareyton sounds familiar. At any rate, when we got to the camp and were assigned our tents, we were told that we had one scuttle of coal and the only available coal was at the USO club. Anyone caught stealing coal would be pulled from his normal shipment and no promise of when there would be a ship.

We soon ran out of coal, and drew straws to see who would be the unlucky one. Yep, I got the short one, so I took the scuttle, sneaked into the woods, and, using my infantry training and experience, carefully and quietly worked my way around to the USO facility. I knew there was no cover for the last 50 yards. When I got to the edge of the woods, there was a line — I had to stand in line to steal that coal!"

James Powers
August 2001


"I was assigned to Camp Pall Mall, in Etretat, France, from mid-May until mid-December 1945. I went overseas in early September 1944 with the 99th Infantry Division as a battalion I&R man. I was wounded on Dec. 19 when a "Bouncing Betty" mine blew up under me as I was trying to clear a path for my men to get out. I spent four months in a hospital in Bristol, England, and was returning to my unit when the war ended in Europe.

I was assigned to the the 16th Major Port, Le Havre, France, and then to Pall Mall. Pall Mall started out very small and our primary duty was to process our men who had been POWs. I was given a new MOS, 604, Clerk Typist, simply because I could type, and was given the job of Personnel Chief although I was only a PFC. Our cadre, to begin with, numbered in the twenties, but grew rapidly and when we closed Pall Mall in Dec. 1945 we numbered something over 300. It was an unusual organization — no T/O or T/E, no military protocol — we did our job well and headquarters left us alone.

That suited us fine, since 95% of the personnel were ex-combat veterans and many had been wounded, like myself. All we wanted was to do our job and wait for our points to come up so we could come home and be discharged. Pall Mall was the most pleasant of all my assignments in the service. Etretat was a small seaside resort with good weather and friendly natives. I would give Pall Mall a Five-Star rating!

William M. "Mac" Goldfinch, Jr.
99th Infantry Division
August 2001

3 posted on 09/26/2003 4:06:08 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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4 posted on 09/26/2003 4:07:05 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: mark502inf; bedolido; The Mayor; Prof Engineer; PsyOp; Samwise; comitatus; copperheadmike; ...
.......FALL IN to the FReeper Foxhole!

.......Good Friday Morning Everyone!


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5 posted on 09/26/2003 4:08:21 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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And a very pleasant good morning to you Snippy and everyone at the Freeper Foxhole.

My, oh my!!!! Everyone is sure busy freepin' today(LOL):-D

6 posted on 09/26/2003 4:26:29 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: snippy_about_it
cigarette camp ? talk about politically incorrect!
I wonder what they would have said about todays climate?

Ahhhh, never mind, have a donut


7 posted on 09/26/2003 4:27:53 AM PDT by The Mayor (He who waits on the Lord will not be crushed by the weights of adversity.)
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Good morning EGC, yippee it's Friday!!
8 posted on 09/26/2003 5:09:02 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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Good morning Mayor.

PC is something we certainly aren't in the Foxhole. LOL.

Donuts, coffee and a smoke. TGIF!
9 posted on 09/26/2003 5:10:25 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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Good morning, all!

I've had four hours of sleep and am ready to face the day. Or something like that. Hope you are well :)

10 posted on 09/26/2003 5:21:07 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("I like a man who grins when he fights." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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Good Morning Colonel.

I know what only 4 hours sleep is like. Lots of coffee will be required today!

Be careful out there. ;)
11 posted on 09/26/2003 5:25:09 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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Present!
12 posted on 09/26/2003 6:00:29 AM PDT by manna
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To: manna
Good morning manna.
13 posted on 09/26/2003 6:05:02 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: The Mayor; SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
cigarette camp ? talk about politically incorrect!
I wonder what they would have said about todays climate?

Interesting, that. Some things never change...thoughts run to the desert camps our boys and girls set up in Kuwait. Camp New York, Camp Pennsylvania, etc.

I had assumed that the names were simply a way to honor the victims of terror on 9/11, not even beginning to realize we had done all this before.

14 posted on 09/26/2003 7:51:27 AM PDT by HiJinx (If you're not making waves, you're not kicking hard enough.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf
Morning Glory Snip & Sam~

Interesting post . . . it reads GOOD! . . . lika a (clap clap) cigarette should!

15 posted on 09/26/2003 8:00:43 AM PDT by w_over_w (I recommend it to all my friends, and you tell 'em you heard it first on "Roller Derby".)
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On this Day In history


Birthdates which occurred on September 26:
1729 Moses Mendelssohn philosopher/critic/Bible translator
1774 John Chapman [Johnny Appleseed], frontier nurseryman
1820 Isvar Chandra Vidyasagar father of Bengali prose (Exile of Sita)
1876 Edith Abbott dean U of Chic Social Sciences
1888 T.S. Eliot St Louis poet/dramatist/critic (Waste Land-Nobel 1948)
1889 Martin Heidegger Germany, Existentialist (Being & Time)
1891 Charles Munch Strasbourg Alsatian conductor (French Legion D'Honeur)
1895 Fay Holden Birmingham England, actress (Mother-Andy Hardy films)
1897 Pope Paul VI 262nd Roman Catholic pope (1963-78)
1898 George Gershwin [Jacob Gershvin] Bkln NY, composer (Rhapsody in Blue)
1901 Donald Cook Portland Ore, actor (Too Young To Go Steady)
1902 Albert Anastasia head of Murder Inc
1907 Ralph Michael London England, actor (Quest, Doctor in the House)
1914 Jack LaLanne exercise mogul
1919 Barbara Britton Long Beach, Calif, actress (Young & Willing)
1925 Bobby Shantz baseball player (1952 AL MVP)
1925 Marty Robbins Glendale Az, singer (Devil Woman, I Walk Alone)
1926 Julie London Santa Rosa Calif, actress (Nurse McCall-Emergency)
1927 Patrick O'Neal Ocala Fla, actor (Kaz, Alvarez Kelly, King Rat)
1930 Fritz Wunderlich Kusel Germany, tenor (Stuttgart 1955-58)
1930 Philip Bosco Jersey City, actor (Trading Places)
1932 Clifton C Williams Jr Mobile Alabama, Major USMC/astronaut
1932 Joyce Jameson Chicago Ill, comedienne (Spike Jones Show)
1933 Donna Douglas [Dot Smith], Pride La, actress (Beverly Hillbillies)
1942 Kent McCord LA Calif, actor (Officer Jim Reed-Adam 12)
1945 Brian Ferry England, rocker (Roxy Music-Let's Stick Together)
1946 Mary Beth Hurt Iowa, actress (Garp, Change of Seasons)
1947 Graham Faulkner London, actor (Brother Sun Sister Moon)
1947 Lynn Anderson ND, country singer (I Never Promised you a Rose Garden)
1947 Richard Roth US, 400m swim medley (Olympic-gold-1964)
1948 Olivia Newton-John Cambridge England, singer (I Honestly Love You, Physical)
1948 Vladimir Remek 1st Czechoslovakian space traveler (in Soyuz 28)
1952 James Keane Buffalo NY, actor (Willis Bell-Paper Chase)
1956 Linda Hamilton Salisbury Md, actress (Catherine-Beauty & the Beast)
1962 Melissa Sue Anderson Cal, actress (Little House on the Prairie)
1962 Tracey Thorn rocker (Everything But the Girls)
1963 Lysette Anthony London, actress (Angelique-Dark Shadows, Switch)
1964 Ty Miller Granada Hills Calif, actor (The Kid-The Young Riders)
1967 Martha Nix Orange County Calif, actress (Serena-Waltons)
1972 Shann Stockman [Slim], Phila Pa, rapper (Boyz II Men)


Deaths which occurred on September 26:
1342 John I, ruler of Poland, dies
1820 Daniel Boone frontiersman, dies in Missouri at 85
1904 Lafcadio Hearn multinational author, dies
1917 Edgar H G Degas, French painter (ballerina), dies
1937 Bessie Smith singer, dies of injuries sustained in car crash
1952 George Santayana, US philosopher/poet (Last Puritan), dies at 88
1959 PM Solomon Bandaranaike of Ceylon (Sri Lanka) assassinated
1964 Calvin Thomas actor (Judge Hunter-One Man's Family), dies at 79
1972 Charles Correll actor (Calvin and the Colonel), dies at 82
1973 Anna Magnani actress, dies at 64
1990 Alberto Moravia Italian writer (Woman in Red), dies at 82
2000 Actor Richard Mulligan died at age 67.


Reported: MISSING in ACTION

1966 BALLARD ARTHUR T. SPARTANBURG SC.
[03/04/73 RELEASED BY DRV, ALIVE IN 2000
1966 MOSBURG HENRY L. PUTNAM OK.
1966 PHILLIPS MARVIN F. GRUETLI TN.
1967 GEIST STEPHEN J. SILVER SPRINGS MD.
1967 HUDDLESTON LYNN R. RALLS TX.
1967 MOE HAROLD JOHN EAU CLAIRE WI.
1968 OLSON BARRY A. ALBERT LEA MN.
1972 WALSH JAMES P. WINSTED CN.
[02/12/73 RELEASED BY PRG, ALIVE IN 99]

POW / MIA Data & Bios supplied by
the P.O.W. NETWORK. Skidmore, MO. USA.


On this day...
1396 Sultan Bajezid I beheads several hundred crusaders
1580 Elizabethan seaman Francis Drake returned to Plymouth, England, in the Golden Hind, becoming the first British navigator to have circumnavigated the planet, returns to England with Spanish treasure
1655 Peter Stuyvesant recaptures Dutch Ft Casimir from Swedish in Delaware
1687 Parthenon destroyed in war between Turks & Venetians
1777 British troops occupy Philadelphia during the American Revolution
1789 Jefferson appointed 1st Sec of State; John Jay 1st chief justice; Samuel Osgood 1st Postmaster & Edmund J Randolph 1st Attorney Genl
1824 Kapiolani defies Pele (Hawaiian volcano goddess) & lives
1826 The Persian cavalry is routed by the Russians at the Battle of Ganja in the Russian Caucasus.
1829 Scotland Yard, the official British criminal investigation organization, is formed.
1835 The opera "Lucia di Lammermoor" is produced (Naples)
1864 General Nathan Bedford Forrest and his men assault a Federal garrison near Pulaski, Tennessee
1890 US stops minting $1 & $3 gold coin & 3 piece
1892 1st public appearance of John Philip Sousa's band (NJ)
1896 John Philip Sousa led band's 1st performance (Plainfield, NJ)
1906 Pitts Lefty Leifield no-hits Phillies, 8-0 in 6 inning game
1907 New Zealand becomes a dominion
1908 Ed Ruelbach shuts-out Dodgers in a doubleheader
1914 Federal Trade Commission formed to regulate interstate commerce
1918 Meuse-Argonne offensive against Germany began during WW I
1918 German Ace Ernst Udet shoots down two Allied planes, bringing his total for the war up to 62
1925 Italian sub "Sebastiano Veniero" lost off Sicily with 54 dead
1926 Shortest double header, Yanks lose 6-1 in 72 minutes & lose again 6-2 in 55 minutes to the Browns. Yanks had already clinched pennant
1934 British liner Queen Mary is launched
1947 Happy Chandler announces Ford & Gillette to sponsor World Series
1948 Boston Braves win 1st NL championship since 1914
1950 Because of forest fire in Br Columbia, blue moon appears in England
1950 UN troops in Korean War recaptured South Korean capital of Seoul
1952 Yanks clinch pennant #19
1954 Typhoon strikes Kakodate Bay Japan, killing over 1,600
1955 NY Stock Exchange worst price decline since 1929
1957 Musical "West Side Story," opens on Broadway
1958 Columbia (US) beats Sceptre (England) in 18th America's Cup
1959 SF Giants Sam Jones 2nd no-hitter, beats St Louis Cards, 4-0
1960 1st of 4 TV debates Nixon & Kennedy took place (Chicago)
1960 Longest speech in UN history (4 hrs, 29 mins, by Fidel Castro)
1961 Nineteen-year-old Bob Dylan makes his New York singing debut at Gerde's Folk City.
1961 Roger Maris hits HR #60 off Jack Fisher, tying Babe Ruth's record
1962 1st to steal 100 bases in a season (Maury Wills goes on to 104)
1962 TV comedy series "The Beverly Hillbillies" premiers on CBS
1962 Yemen Arab Republic proclaimed (National Day)
1966 "Staten Island," 1st icebreaker to enter SF bay
1968 Hawaii Five-O debuts as an hourly program on CBS
1968 St Louis Cards' Bob Gibson's 13th shutout, ends with 1.12 ERA
1969 Beatles release "Abbey Road" album
1972 American Museum of Immigration dedicated
1973 Concorde flies from Washington DC to Paris in 3h33m
1973 Wilt Chamberlain signs with ABA San Diego Conquistadors
1975 Phillies & NY Mets play a doubleheader that ends at 3:15 AM
1976 Phillies clinch their 1st NL East Division title
1977 Sir Freddie Laker begins cut-rate "Skytrain" service, London to NY
1978 RR clerks go on strike, halting more than 2/3s of rail service
1979 1984 summer LA Olympic coverage sold to ABC for $225 million
1980 Cuban govt closes Mariel Harbor ending "freedom flotilla"
1980 Soyuz 38 returns to Earth
1981 Houston Astro Nolan Ryan 5th no-hitter beats LA Dodgers, 5-0
1983 Ali Haji-Sheikh kicks NY Giant record 56 yard field goal
1983 Australia II wins America's Cup yacht race (1st non-US winner)
1983 Cosmonauts Titov & Strekalov are saved from exploding Soyuz T-10
1983 St Louis Card Bob Forsch 2nd no-hitter beats Montreal Expos, 3-0
1984 5,251 turn out to see the Phillies play the NY Mets at Shea Stadium
1984 Britain & China initial agreement return Hong Kong to China in 1997
1984 Pres Reagan vetoes sanctions against South Africa
1986 Antonin Scalia becomes a Supreme Court Justice
1986 William Rehnquist becomes Chief Justice of the Supreme Court
1986 Bobby (Patrick Duffy) returns to Dallas, his death is attributed to his wife Pam's bad dream (erases all of last season)
1988 Canada`s Ben Johnson stripped of his 100-m gold failing drug test
1988 NYC's Rockefeller Center declared a national landmark
1988 Polish communist party picks propaganda chief Rakowski as new PM
1988 US space shuttle STS-26 launched
1990 Motion Picture Assn of America creates new NC-17 rating
1991 2 year experimental Biosphere 2 in Oracle Arizona begins
1996 Richard Allen Davis, the killer of 12-year-old Polly Klaas, was formally sentenced to death in San Jose, Calif.


Holidays
Note: Some Holidays are only applicable on a given "day of the week"

New Zealand : Dominion Day
Sri Lanka : Bandaranaike Day (1959)
Yemen Arab Rep, Yemen Peo Dem Rep : Revolution Day (1962)
US : Gold Star Mother's Day (Last Sunday in September) (Sunday)
US : Good Neighbor Day (4th Sunday in September) (Sunday)
US : Press Sunday (Sunday)
US : American Indian Day (4th Friday in September) (1916) (Friday)
Khmer Republic : Ceremony of the Dead
National Dog Week (Day 6)
Religious Freedom Week (Day 6)
Roller Skating Week (Day 6)
Sea Cadet Month
Self Improvement Month


Religious Observances
RC : Memorial of SS Cosmas & Damian, martyrs, patrons of MDs (opt)
Ang : Commemoration of Lancelot Andrewes, bishop of Winchester


Religious History
1774 Birth of pioneer environmentalist Jonathan Chapman (Johnny Appleseed). Distributing apple seeds and religious tracts from the Alleghenies to the Ohio Valley, Chapman's theology was strongly reminiscent of Swedenborgianism, which taught an empathy with the natural world.
1814 With over 1,000 delegates from 17 churches, the Flint River Association was established -- the first official Baptist organization of its kind in the history of Alabama.
1835 The Suwanee Association was formed, in Florida. Comprised of eight member churches, it was the first official Baptist organization in Florida history.
1897 Birth of Giovanni Battista Montini. He was ordained in 1920, named a cardinal in 1958, and in June 1963 chosen successor to John XXIII as Pope Paul VI. His 15 years as pontiff saw a widening application of the decisions first made at the Vatican II Ecumenical Council (1962-65).
1990 In Russia, the Supreme Soviet ended decades of religious repression with a new declaration, forbidding government interference in religious activities and giving citizens the right to study religion in homes and private schools.

Source: William D. Blake. ALMANAC OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH. Minneapolis: Bethany House, 1987.


Thought for the day :
"God wisely designed the human body so that we can neither pat our own backs nor kick ourselves too easily."


You might be from Wisconsin if...
you were unaware there is a legal drinking age


Murphys Law of the day...(Anthony's Law of Force)
Don't force it, get a larger hammer.


It's a little known fact that...
Animal gestation periods: the shortest is the American opossum, which bears its young 12 to 13 days after conception; the longest is the Asiatic elephant, taking 608 days, or just over 20 months.
16 posted on 09/26/2003 8:08:41 AM PDT by Valin (If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat?)
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To: snippy_about_it
Good Morning Snippy.

Great job on the thread today. I had heard of the Cigarette Camps but never knew the story behind them. Fascinating story and probably little known except by those who were there. Thanks for researching and covering this topic.

I remember the camp scene in "Battleground" (A great movie).

My favorite picture:


17 posted on 09/26/2003 8:16:13 AM PDT by SAMWolf (The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul)
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To: E.G.C.
Morning E.G.C. Another gorgeous day here.
18 posted on 09/26/2003 8:17:58 AM PDT by SAMWolf (The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul)
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cigarette camp ? talk about politically incorrect!

Morning Mayor, that's what I thought when I was reading the thread. LOL! Any chance we can get free cigarettes with the coffee and donuts?

19 posted on 09/26/2003 8:19:30 AM PDT by SAMWolf (The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
Morning Colonel_Flagg.

4 Hours? Darksheares coffee?
20 posted on 09/26/2003 8:20:44 AM PDT by SAMWolf (The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul)
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