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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers "Ought it not be a Merry Christmas?" - Dec. 25th, 2005
City of Alexandria / Fort Ward Museum ^

Posted on 12/24/2005 9:08:05 PM PST by SAMWolf



Lord,

Keep our Troops forever in Your care

Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
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FReepers from the Foxhole join in prayer
for all those serving their country at this time.


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"Ought it not be a Merry Christmas? "
Holiday observances during the American Civil War





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Lonely camp scene from an 1862 Harper's Weekly entitled "Christmas Eve".


Even with all the sorrow that hangs, and will forever hang, over so many households; even while war still rages; even while there are serious questions yet to be settled - ought it not to be, and is it not, a merry Christmas?"
Harper's Weekly, December 26, 1863

Introduction




Harper's Weekly depicts a family separated by war in its January 3,1863 edition.


For a nation torn by civil war, Christmas in the 1860s was observed with conflicting emotions. Nineteenth-century Americans embraced Christmas with all the Victorian trappings that had moved the holiday from the private and religious realm to a public celebration. Christmas cards were in vogue, carol singing was common in public venues, and greenery festooned communities north and south. Christmas trees stood in places of honor in many homes, and a mirthful poem about the jolly old elf who delivered toys to well-behaved children captivated Americans on both sides of the Mason-Dixon line.

But Christmas also made the heartache for lost loved ones more acute. As the Civil War dragged on, deprivation replaced bounteous repasts and familiar faces were missing from the family dinner table. Soldiers used to "bringing in the tree" and caroling in church were instead scavenging for firewood and singing drinking songs around the campfire. And so the holiday celebration most associated with family and home was a contradiction. It was a joyful, sad, religious, boisterous, and subdued event.

Before the war




"The Christmas Tree" by F. A. Chapman.


Many of the holiday customs we associate with Christmas today were familiar to 1840s celebrants. Christmas cards were popularized that decade and Christmas trees were a stylish addition to the parlor. By the 1850s, Americans were singing "It Came Upon a Midnight Clear," "Oh Little Town of Bethlehem," and "Away in a Manger" in public settings. In 1850 and 1860, Godey's Lady's Book featured Queen Victoria's tabletop Christmas tree, placed there by her German husband Prince Albert. Closer to home, in December, 1853, Robert E. Lee's daughter recorded in her diary that her father - then superintendent at West Point - possessed an evergreen tree decorated with dried and sugared fruit, popcorn, ribbon, spun glass ornaments, and silver foil.

Clement Clarke Moore, a religious scholar who for decades was too embarrassed to claim authorship of the 1822 poem, "A Visit From St. Nicholas," was now well-known for his tribute to Santa Claus. "Santa Claus" made his first public appearance in a Philadelphia department store in 1849, marking the advent of holiday commercialism.

For enslaved African Americans, the Christmas season often meant a mighty bustle of cooking, housekeeping, and other chores. "Reward" for these efforts was a suspension of duties for a day or two and the opportunity for singing, dancing, and possible brief reunions with separated family members. Further gestures of "goodwill" by masters who saw themselves as benevolent owners were small and the semi-annual clothing allotment.

By 1860, many worried about civil unrest, fearful this Christmas would be the last before the outbreak of war. An Arkansas diarist writes:

"Christmas has come around in the circle of time, but is not a day of rejoicing. Some of the usual ceremonies are going on, but there is gloom on the thoughts and countenances of all the better portion of our people."



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A dual purpose alfa6 today bumping the Foxhola AND posting today's Flag-O-Gram as The P.E. is on travel today

The USS Chung-Hoon DDG-93

Now I had to ask my self, what the Heck is a US Navy ship doing with a name like Chung-Hoon? Well here is the answer...

Rear Admiral Gordon Pai'ea Chung-Hoon was born on July 25, 1910, in Honolulu, Hawaii. The second youngest of five Chung-Hoon children, he attended the U.S. Naval Academy and graduated in May 1934. While at the Naval Academy, he was a valued member of the Navy Football team.

Rear Admiral Chung-Hoon is a recipient of the Navy Cross and Silver Star for conspicuous gallantry and extraordinary heroism as commanding officer of USS Sigsbee (DD 502) from May 1944 to October 1945. In the spring of 1945, Sigsbee assisted in the destruction of 20 enemy planes while screening a carrier strike force off the Japanese island of Kyushu. On April 14, 1945, while on radar picket station off Okinawa, a kamikaze crashed into Sigsbee, reducing her starboard engine to five knots and knocking out the ship's port engine and steering control. Despite the damage, Admiral Chung-Hoon, then a Commander, valiantly kept his anti-aircraft batteries delivering "prolonged and effective fire" against the continuing enemy air attack while simultaneously directing the damage control efforts that allowed Sigsbee to make port under her own power.

After retiring from the Navy in 1959, Rear Admiral Chung-Hoon was appointed by William Quinn, Hawaii's first elected governor since statehood, to serve as director of the state Department of Agriculture. Rear Admiral Chung-Hoon died in July 1979.

BTW The P.E. will resume the regulary scheduled F-O-G tomorrow :-)

Regards

alfa6 ;>}

481 posted on 01/09/2006 5:07:00 AM PST by alfa6 (Let me know if you want to see an aircraft on the Flyby or Sortie)
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To: alfa6; All

January 9, 2006

Burying Our Heads

Read:
2 Samuel 12:1-14

If a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness. —Galatians 6:1

Bible In One Year: Genesis 23-24; Matthew 7

cover Contrary to common belief, the ostrich does not bury its head in the sand to ignore danger. An ostrich can run at a speed of 45 miles per hour, kick powerfully, and peck aggressively with its beak. As the largest and fastest bird in the world, it doesn't need to bury its head.

"Burying your head in the sand" is a saying that describes someone who wants to ignore his shortcomings or those of others. The prophet Nathan did not allow King David to forget his sins of adultery and murder (2 Samuel 12:1-14). It took a brave man to confront a king about his errors. Yet Nathan was obedient to God and wise in his approach.

The apostle Paul urged the early church to confront sin. He said, "If a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness, considering yourself lest you also be tempted" (Galatians 6:1). We are to confront our brothers and sisters in Christ about their sin with the view of restoring them to fellowship with God. We must also recognize that we are not immune to the same temptations.

We shouldn't go looking for sin in the lives of other believers, of course. But neither should we bury our head in the sand when it needs to be confronted. —Albert Lee

Father, help me live today
With thoughtfulness in what I say,
Confronting wrong with truth and fact,
Expressing gentleness and tact. —Hess

Slander seeks to destroy; rebuke seeks to restore.

FOR FURTHER STUDY
Developing The Art Of Gracious Disagreement

482 posted on 01/09/2006 5:44:13 AM PST by The Mayor ( As a child of God, prayer is kind of like calling home everyday.)
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To: alfa6; snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Professional Engineer; Peanut Gallery; w_over_w; Samwise; ...

Good morning everyone!
Snippy, are you teaching Sarge to play nice?? LOL

483 posted on 01/09/2006 5:45:21 AM PST by Soaring Feather
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On this Day In History


Birthdates which occurred on January 09:
1554 Gregory XV [Alessandro Ludovisi], Roman Catholic pope (1621-23)
1728 Thomas Warton poet laureate of England (Pleasures of Melancholy)
1803 Christopher Gustavus Memminger Secretary Treasurer (Confederacy) died in 1888
1816 John Palmer Usher Secretary Interior (Union) died in 1889
1822 John Porter Hatch volunteers Brevet Major General (Union), died in 1901
1859 Carrie Lane Chapman Catt women's rights leader/founder (League of Women Voters)
1870 Joseph B Strauss civil engineer/builder (Golden Gate Bridge)
1890 Karel Capek Czechoslovakia, writer (R U R ); coined the word "robot"
http://capek.misto.cz/english/
1898 Gracie Fields [Stansfield], England, music hall/vaudeville performer
1901 Chic Young cartoonist (Blondie)
1904 George Balanchine dancer/choreographer/ballet producer
1908 Simone de Beauvoir France, author (Mandarins, 2nd Sex)

1913 Richard Milhouse Nixon Yorba Linda CA, (R) 37th President (1969-74)

1914 Gypsy Rose Lee [Rose Hovick], Seattle, burlesque actress (Gypsy)
1915 Fernando Lamas Buenos Aires Argentina, actor ("You look marvelous")
1917 Herbert Lom Czech, actor (Pink Panther Strikes Again, Dorian Gray)
1925 Lee Van Cleef New Jersey, actor (For a Few Dollars More, Escape from New York)
1934 Bart Starr NFL quarterback/coach (Green Bay)
1935 Bob Denver New Rochelle NY, actor (Dobie Gillis, Gilligan's Island)
1941 Joan Baez Staten Island, folk singer/human rights advocate
1944 Jimmy Page London England, rock guitarist (Led Zeppelin-Stairway to Heaven)
1972 Kristie Hicks Bardstown KY, Miss Kentucky-America (1995)



Deaths which occurred on January 09:
1324 Marco Polo Italian explorer, dies
1499 Johan Cicero elector of (Brandenburg, 1486-99), dies at 43
1843 Caroline Herschel "1st lady of astronomy", dies at 98 in Germany
1878 Victor Emmanuel II king of Sardinia (1849-61)/Italy (1861-78), dies at 57
1893 Mohara, Arab ivory/slave trader, dies in battle & is eaten
1979 Sara Carter vocalist/guitarist (Carter Family), dies at 80
1993 Felix Grucci fireworks expert, dies of Alzheimer's disease at 87


Take A Moment To Remember
GWOT Casualties

Iraq
09-Jan-2005 11 | US: 2 | UK: 0 | Other: 9
KAZ Captain Kayrat Kudabayev As Suwayrah (6 mi. S of) - Wasit Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
UKR Chief Warrant Officer Volodimir Sedoy Baghdad (military hospital) Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
UKR Senior Sergeant Vira Pietrik As Suwayrah (6 mi. S of) - Wasit Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
UKR Senior Sergeant Andriy Sitnikov As Suwayrah (6 mi. S of) - Wasit Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
UKR Warrant Officer Oleksandr Katsarskyi As Suwayrah (6 mi. S of) - Wasit Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
UKR Captain Valeriy Brazhevskyi As Suwayrah (6 mi. S of) - Wasit Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
UKR Captain Sergyi Andrushchienko As Suwayrah (6 mi. S of) - Wasit Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
UKR Captain Yuriy Zagray As Suwayrah (6 mi. S of) - Wasit Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
UKR Lieutenant Colonel Oleg Matizhev As Suwayrah (6 mi. S of) - Wasit Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
US Corporal Joseph E. Fite Al Anbar Province Hostile - hostile fire
US Specialist Dwayne James McFarlane Jr. Baghdad Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack


Afghanistan
01/09/02 Hays, Nathan P. Sergeant 21 US U.S. Marine Marine Aerial Refueler Transport Squadron 352, Marine Aircraft Group 11, 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing Non-hostile - aircraft crash Southwestern Pakistan Lincoln Washington
01/09/02 Winters, Jeannette L. Sergeant 25 US U.S. Marine Wing Communications Squadron 38, 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing Non-hostile - aircraft crash Southwestern Pakistan Du Page Illinois
01/09/02 Germosen, Scott N. Staff Sergeant 37 US U.S. Marine Marine Aerial Refueler Transport Squadron 352, Marine Aircraft Group 11, 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing Non-hostile - aircraft crash Southwestern Pakistan Queens New York
01/09/02 McCollum, Daniel G. Captain 29 US U.S. Marine Marine Aerial Refueler Transport Squadron 352, Marine Aircraft Group 11, 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing Non-hostile - aircraft crash Southwestern Pakistan Richland South Carolina
01/09/02 Bryson, Stephen L. Gunnery Sergeant 35 US U.S. Marine Marine Aerial Refueler Transport Squadron 352, Marine Aircraft Group 11, 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing Non-hostile - aircraft crash Southwestern Pakistan Montgomery Alabama
01/09/02 Bertrand, Bryan P. Lance Corporal 23 US U.S. Marine Marine Aerial Refueler Transport Squadron 352, Marine Aircraft Group 11, 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing Non-hostile - aircraft crash Southwestern Pakistan Coos Bay Oregon
01/09/02 Bancroft, Matthew W. Captain 29 US U.S. Marine Marine Aerial Refueler Transport Squadron 352, Marine Aircraft Group 11, 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing Non-hostile - aircraft crash Southwestern Pakistan Shasta California

01/09/04 Wood, Roy A. Sergeant 47 US U.S. Army National Guard C Co., 3rd Bat., 20th Special Forces Group (Airborne) Non-Hostile - Accident - vehicular Kabul Alva Florida
137




http://icasualties.org/oif/
Data research by Pat Kneisler
Designed and maintained by Michael White
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Go here and I'll stop nagging.
http://soldiersangels.org/heroes/index.php


On this day...
1296 Earl Floris V signs accord with French king
1317 Phillips V, the Tall, crowned king of France
1349 700 Jews of Basel Switzerland, burned alive in their houses
1464 1st meeting of States-General of Netherlands
1493 1st sight of manatees (by Christopher Columbus)
1522 Adriaan F Boeyens of Utrecht elected only Dutch pope (Adrian VI)
1570 Tsar Ivan the terrible kills 1000-2000 residents of Novgorod
1718 France declares war on Spain
1760 Afghans defeat Marathas in battle of Barari Ghat

1776 Thomas Paine publishes Common Sense, a scathing attack on King George III's reign over the colonies and a call for complete independence.
http://odur.let.rug.nl/~usa/D/1776-1800/paine/CM/sense02.htm

1788 Connecticut becomes 5th state
1793 Jean Pierre Blanchard makes 1st balloon flight in North America (Philadelphia)
1799 Income Tax introduced in UK
1811 1st Women's Golf Tournament held
1812 Swedish Pomerania (Germany) seized by Napoleon
1839 Daguerrotype photo process announced at French Academy of Science
1839 Thomas Henderson measures 1st stellar parallax (Alpha Centauri)
1847 1st San Francisco newspaper published (California Star)
1848 People's uprising in Palermo Sicily
1855 Clipper Guiding Star disappears in Atlantic, 480 dies
1857 7.9 earthquake shakes Fort Tejon CA
1861 1st hostile act of Civil War; Star of the West fired on, Sumter SC
1861 Mississippi becomes 2nd state to secede
1863 -Jan 11th] Battle of Arkansas Post AR (Fort Hindman)
1866 Fisk University establishes
1879 Cheyenne prisoners led by Dull Knife revolt at Fort Robinson
1880 6' of snow falls in Seattle in 5 days
1903 Baseball's National & American Leagues make peace
1903 Wind Cave National Park, South Dakota established
1903 Frank Farrell & Bill Devery purchase AL Baltimore franchise for $18,000 & move it to New York City NY (Yankees)
1905 Bloody Sunday-demonstrators fired on by tsarist troops
1908 Muir Woods National Monument, California established
1908 Count Zeppelin announces plans for his airship to carry 100 passengers
1909 Ernest Shackleton reaches 88º23' south
1912 US marines invade Honduras
1933 Amsterdam confectionery worker go on strike against wage reduction
1936 Semi-automatic rifles adopted by US army
1937 Italian regime bans marriages between Italians & Abyssinians
1941 6,000 Jews exterminated in pogrom in Bucharest Romania
1942 Joe Louis KOs Buddy Baer in 1 for heavyweight boxing title
1942 US Joint Chiefs of Staff created
1945 US soldiers led by General Douglas MacArthur invade Philippines
1951 Life After Tomorrow, 1st film to receive an "X" rating, premieres
1952 Marines give notice that they will recall Ted Williams to active duty
1954 -87ºF, Northice Station, Greenland (Greenland record)
1957 Checheno-Ingush ASSR reformed in RSFSR
1957 British premier Anthony Eden resigns
1957 Dutch Newspaper Society expels communist daily paper "Truth"
1958 In basketball Oscar Robertson (Cincinnati OH) scores 56, Seton Hall team 54
1959 "Rawhide" with Clint Eastwood premieres on CBS TV
1960 Building of Aswan dam in Egypt, begins
1962 Mister M (Dr X) beats Verne Gagne in Minnesota, to become NWA champ
1966 Polish government denies exit visa to Cardinal Wyszynski revisionism
1967 Georgia legislature seats Representative Julian Bond
1968 Surveyor 7 space probe soft lands on the Moon
1969 Concorde jetliner's 1st test flight (Bristol England)
1970 Constitution of Singapore enacted
1972 Billionaire Howard Hughes said Clifford Irving's biography is a fake
1976 CW McCall CB song "Convoy" hit #1 on the country music charts
1977 Super Bowl XI Oakland Raiders defeat Minnesota Vikings, 32-14, in Pasadena; Super Bowl MVP Fred Biletnikoff, Oakland, Wide Receiver
1979 High-school player Daryl Moreau makes 126th consecutive free throws
1979 Supreme Court strikes down (6-3) PA law requiring doctors performing an abortion to try to preserve lives of potentially viable fetuses
1980 63 beheaded in Mecca, Saudi Arabia
1983 British PM Margaret Thatcher visits the Falkland Islands
1987 New Nicaraguan constitution takes effect
1987 Chinese/Vietnamese border fights, 1500 killed
1989 Johnny Bench & Carl Yastrzemski elected to Baseball Hall of Fame
1990 64th US manned space mission STS 32 (Columbia 10) launches into orbit
1990 Supreme Court strikes down Dallas' ordinance imposing strict zoning on sexually oriented businesses
1991 Baker & Aziz meet in Geneva; talks fail to defuse the gulf crisis
1991 Baseball officially bans Pete Rose from being elected to Hall of Fame
1998 Anatoly Karpov defeats Viswanathan Anand to retain chess title
1998 Decapitated head of Danish Little Mermaid is returned
1999 French NATO forces killed a suspected war criminal in Bosnia while trying to arrest him. Dragan Gagovic had been charged in the rape and torture of Muslim women during a Serb offensive in eastern Bosnia in 1992-93.



Holidays
Note: Some Holidays are only applicable on a given "day of the week"

Connecticut : Ratification Day (1788)
Panamá, Canal Zone : Martyrs' Day/Dia de los Martires
US : Show and Tell Day at Work
Play God Day
Fungal Infection Awareness Month.


Religious Observances
Roman Catholic : Feast of St Adrian
Roman Catholic : Commemoration of St Julian the Hospitaller & companions


Religious History
1569 St. Philip of Moscow, primate of the Russian Orthodox Church, was murdered by Czar Ivan IV ("Ivan the Terrible").
1777 Pioneer American Methodist bishop Francis Asbury wrote in his journal: 'My soul lives constantly as in the presence of God, and enjoys much of His divine favor. His love is better than life!'
1836 The first Roman Catholic college to be founded in the Deep South, Spring Hill College was established in Spring Hill, Arkansas.
1924 Death of British Armenian scholar F. C. Conybeare, 68. His researches did much to relate the Armenian language and culture to the Greek Old Testament (the Septuagint).
1970 After 140 years of unofficial racial discrimination, the Mormons issued an official statement declaring that blacks were not yet to receive the priesthood "for reasons which we believe are known to God, but which He has not made fully known to man."

Source: William D. Blake. ALMANAC OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH. Minneapolis: Bethany House, 1987.


Robbers' criminal dress sense

A gang of robbers were arrested on a beach in Brazil after a man noticed two of them were wearing clothes stolen from his house.

The man called police after seeing the men on Martins de Sa beach and the gang was arrested, Folha de Sao Paulo reports.

A police spokesperson said: "The robbers could not believe how unlucky they were.

"They stole the clothes from a house nearby and ended up at the same beach where their victims were, that is surreal."


Thought for the day :
"A man is not finished when he is defeated. He is finished when he quits."
Richard M. Nixon


485 posted on 01/09/2006 6:57:13 AM PST by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: bentfeather

lol. I'm teaching but he's not learning!


486 posted on 01/09/2006 8:08:46 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Peanut Gallery

I'm looking at the USS Lexington right now!


487 posted on 01/09/2006 11:48:32 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Think you know all about the Civil War? Consider this, only one side wrote the history books.)
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To: Peanut Gallery

I'm looking at the USS Lexington right now!


488 posted on 01/09/2006 12:38:04 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Think you know all about the Civil War? Consider this, only one side wrote the history books.)
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To: vox_PL

Nothing except "released a peacock" (quoted by you) comes to my mind.


489 posted on 01/09/2006 12:51:19 PM PST by lizol
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To: bentfeather

Hi miss Feather.

I'm FReepin by Blackberry this AM. Some genius created this thing without the keys required to do html, so I can't do a FOG right now.

Rats!


490 posted on 01/09/2006 1:19:29 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Think you know all about the Civil War? Consider this, only one side wrote the history books.)
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To: snippy_about_it

LOL


491 posted on 01/09/2006 1:19:31 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Think you know all about the Civil War? Consider this, only one side wrote the history books.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Hi PE, are you on the East Coast?? How's the weather.

Warmer here today, gloomy though, very overcast.Of course, it's getting dark now.


Alfa6, covered you for the FOG.


492 posted on 01/09/2006 1:30:22 PM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: Peanut Gallery

Hic


493 posted on 01/09/2006 2:15:50 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Think you know all about the Civil War? Consider this, only one side wrote the history books.)
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To: bentfeather

I'm in Newark now. Getting on a big jet plane soon.


494 posted on 01/09/2006 2:21:47 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Think you know all about the Civil War? Consider this, only one side wrote the history books.)
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To: bentfeather

I'm in Newark now. Getting on a big jet plane soon.


495 posted on 01/09/2006 2:53:00 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Think you know all about the Civil War? Consider this, only one side wrote the history books.)
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To: bentfeather

I'm in Newark now. Getting on a big jet plane soon.


496 posted on 01/09/2006 7:05:33 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Think you know all about the Civil War? Consider this, only one side wrote the history books.)
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To: Professional Engineer

LOL still waiting I see. Going home??


497 posted on 01/09/2006 7:06:39 PM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: Peanut Gallery

Were stuck!

There's a broke plane in the gate, so we've gotta sit here spitting distance away.


498 posted on 01/09/2006 7:10:28 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Think you know all about the Civil War? Consider this, only one side wrote the history books.)
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To: bentfeather

This thing really likes to hiccup.

I'm at DFW airport now.


499 posted on 01/09/2006 7:16:33 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Think you know all about the Civil War? Consider this, only one side wrote the history books.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Have a safe trip! Tums are good for hiccups! ;)


500 posted on 01/09/2006 7:19:19 PM PST by Soaring Feather
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