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MILITARY COOKING 1941



TURKEY, ROAST

70 pounds turkey, undrawn or 50 pounds dressed and drawn
4 pounds onions, minced, browned
2 pounds fat, butter preferred
15 pounds bread crumbs
2 pounds flour

Singe, then clean the turkey well, saving heart, liver, and gizzard, which should be cooked and then minced for use in gravy or dressing. To make the dressing, moisten the bread crumbs with water, mix with onions and giblets, and season with pepper and salt, sage, thyme, or other spices. The bread may be soaked in oyster liquor and oysters added to the dressing. Celery, currants, or raising may be used instead of onions. Lemon juice or nuts may be added. Stuff the turkey well with dressing. Sew up with strong thread and tie wings down to the body. Make a batter with the flour and fat, season with salt and pepper and rub the turkey with it before placing in oven. Roast in a slow own (200-250 F. -- 18 to 20 counts). After the turkey has been in the oven about 20 minutes, add a little hot water and baste every 15 minutes until done. This generally requires about 2 1/2 hours, depending upon the quality of the fowl. Last few minutes of cooking should be at high heat to brown the outside of the turkey. Carve and serve hot with gravy.

From : Manual of Mess Management,
Military Service Publishing Co., 1941.



Today's Educational Sources and suggestions for further reading:

www.pilgrimhall.org/thot-ww2.htm
1 posted on 11/23/2005 9:54:15 PM PST by snippy_about_it
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To: snippy_about_it

Thank You, and Happy Thanksgiving to You and Yours


2 posted on 11/23/2005 9:59:37 PM PST by MJY1288 (The Democrats have the wisdom of a new born and the vision of a still born)
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3 posted on 11/23/2005 10:03:23 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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Happy Turkey day with all the dressing and fixens.


6 posted on 11/23/2005 10:12:36 PM PST by U S Army EOD (I NEED TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER TAG LINE)
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To: snippy_about_it
Say, that'd be a spiffy rig for camping!.


12 posted on 11/24/2005 12:13:54 AM PST by Professional Engineer (My name is Ralph.)
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To: snippy_about_it; All

"Roast in a slow own (200-250 F. -- 18 to 20 counts)."

I remember being told that before I was born and before oven thermometers existed the cook would get the wood burning right, coals correct, and then test the oven temperature by opening the oven door and sticking in their hand while counting up how long they could leave there hand in there. These weren't seconds because people didn't use seconds until accurate clocks were readily available. A "slow" oven was the temperature when you pulled your hand out slow, and a "fast" oven was when you had to pull your hand out fast.

The same technique is used today to check heavy machinery temperatures though we use seconds nowadays. Four seconds is about 115 degrees Fahrenheit. At 140 degrees you can press your finger for about a half second. I mean, you don't burn yourself or anything like that. The sensation changes from "warm" to "hot" and you take your hand off.

Happy Thanksgiving, everybody. Especially to our people on the sharp end.


13 posted on 11/24/2005 1:03:48 AM PST by Iris7 ("Let me go to the house of the Father.")
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Happy
Thanksgiving
Everyone

 


Time Out: 03:53
KMG-365


14 posted on 11/24/2005 1:53:30 AM PST by Johnny Gage (Texas Cowboy is Dancin In Heaven Now - we will miss you.)
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To: snippy_about_it

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!

I want to say thank you to each of you out there reading FR today!

It's so great to wake up each day and read your thoughts on things happening in the world. The thoughtfulness and intellect of my fellow FReepers has carried me through the past 5 years in dealing with the Leftist infection that infests our great nation. Y'all help reinforce the strength I get from my family to for forth and debate important issues with the lefties I have to deal with every day.

And more and more those debates end with a hushed retreat on their part. Heck, I've gotten so much ammo from FReepers for my Chavez debates alone in the post two months that the folks I discuss this with usually end up not being able to make eye contact by the end of the discussion. You've helped me SHAME the left, and that is no small feat!

Anyway, that's one small example for my gratitude to FReepers. JimRob and JohnRob and their clan have done a great thing for our nation in establishing this forum. I won't even go into the theraputic aspects of FR, suffice to say that it's a virtual home for me.

Yeah, sure I mouth off too much, get my avatar involved in one too many flame wars and stuff. Yet I'm always up for a late evening Troll-B-Q with a few thousand of my fellow FReepers. Yes, FR is a treasure to me, as are all of you.

So here's to wishing all of you a wonderful, family filled, joyous Thanksgiving. All the best to you and yours! Cheers, Salud, Saude...how ever you want to say it!

The Caipira

16 posted on 11/24/2005 3:28:18 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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Happy Thanksgiving to one and all!


17 posted on 11/24/2005 3:37:28 AM PST by Humal
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To: snippy_about_it

Good morning every one, I pray God's blessing fall on every one here, our Troops, GW and our country.


19 posted on 11/24/2005 4:34:37 AM PST by GailA (Glory be to GOD and his only son Jesus.)
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Happy Thanksgiving, Snippy, Sam, & all the FReeper Foxhole FRiends!


21 posted on 11/24/2005 5:20:29 AM PST by RasterMaster ("Bin Laden shows others the road to Paradise, but never offers to go along for the ride." GWB)
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To: snippy_about_it

On This Day In history


Birthdates which occurred on November 24:
1632 Benedict de "Baruch" Spinoza Amsterdam, rationalist philosopher
1713 Father Junipero Serra had a mission in California
1784 Zachary Taylor (Whig) 12th President (Mar 5,1849-July 9,1850)
1826 Collodi [Carlo Lorenzini], Italian author (Pinocchio)
1829 William Passmore Carlin Bvt Major General (Union Army), died in 1903
1847 Bram Stoker Irish theater manager/author (Dracula)
1849 Frances Hodgson Burnett author of children's book (My Secret Garden)
1864 Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec France, painter (At the Moulin Rouge)
1868 Scott Joplin US, entertainer/composer (The Entertainer)
1877 Alben W Barkley Graves County KY, (35th Vice President-D-1949-53)
1888 Dale Carnegie author (How to Win Friends & Influence People)
1889 Albert J Sylvester England, ballroom dancer (Alex Moor Award-1977)
1911 Kirby Grant Butte MT, actor (Sky King)
1912 Garson Kanin American playwright/producer (Double Life)
1917 Howard Duff Bremerton Wash, actor (Flamingo Road, Knots Landing)
1918 Tom "Stubby" Fouts Carroll County IN, actor (Polka-go-round)



1925 William F Buckley Jr Writer, Publisher/Editor/Writer (National Review) (Firing Line) (God and Man at Yale, Blackford Oakes)



1932 Katalin Juhasz-Nagy Hungary, foils (Olympic-gold-1964)
1934 Martin Charnin Broadway lyricist (Annie, West Side Story)
1935 Ron (Red) Dellums Oakland CA, (Rep-D-CA)
1939 Yoshinobu Miyake Japan, featherweight (Olympic-gold-1964, 68)
1941 Donald "Duck" Dunn TN, bassist (Booker T & the MG's-Mar-Keys, Walkin' the Dog)
1942 Marlin Fitzwater press secretary (George Bush)
1946 Ted Bundy Burlington VT, serial murderer
http://www.crimelibrary.com/bundy/attack.htm
1947 Dwight Schultz Baltimore MD, actor (A-Team)
1948 Steve Yeager catcher (Los Angeles Dodger)
1956 Doug Davidson actor (Young & Restless)
1957 Denise Crosby Hollywood CA, actress (Tasha-Star Trek: Next Gen)
1958 Carmel (McCourt) England, rocker (Storm, More More More)



Deaths which occurred on November 24:
1572 John Knox Scottish preacher, dies
http://www.reformed.org/webfiles/antithesis/v1n3/ant_v1n3_knox.html
1674 Franciscus van Enden Flemish jesuit/free thinker, executed at 72
1863 Claudius Charles Wilson Confederate brig-gen, dies in battle at 32
1929 Georges Clemenceau, PM of France (1906-09, 17-20), dies at 88
1962 James J Kilroy tank inspector (Kilroy was here), dies at 60
http://www.kudzumonthly.com/kudzu/jul01/kilroy.html
1963 Lee Harvey Oswald JFK's assassinator shot dead by Jack Ruby
1974 Charles Quinlivan actor (Frank-Mr Garland), dies at 50
1980 George Raft NYC, actor, dies at 85
2003 Warren Spahn (82), the Hall of Fame pitcher (won more games than any other left-hander in history) died


Take A Moment To Remember
GWOT Casualties

Iraq
24-Nov-2004 2 | US: 2 | UK: 0 | Other: 0
US Specialist Sergio R. Diaz Varela Ramadi - Anbar Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
US Sergeant Nicholas S. Nolte Bethesda Naval Hosp., MD Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack


Afghanistan
11/24/04 Fleischer, Jacob R. Corporal 25 US U.S. Army 2nd Battalion, 5th Infantry Regiment, 25th Infantry Div. Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack Deh Rawood (near) [Uruzgan Prov.]
11/24/04 Fracker Jr., Dale E. Corporal 23 US U.S. Army 2nd Battalion, 5th Infantry Regiment, 25th Infantry Div. Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack Deh Rawood (near) [Uruzgan Prov.]



http://icasualties.org/oif/
Data research by Pat Kneisler
Designed and maintained by Michael White
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Go here and I'll stop nagging.
http://soldiersangels.org/heroes/index.php


On this day...
0166 BC Origin of Era of Maccabees
0496 Anastasius II begins his reign as Catholic Pope
0642 Theodore I begins his reign as Catholic Pope
1639 1st observation of transit of Venus occurred (only 2, record event)
1642 Abel Janzoon Tasman discovers Van Diemen's Land (Tasmania)
1703 1st Lutheran pastor ordained in America, Justus Falckner at Philadelphia
1759 Destructive eruption of Vesuvius
1832 South Carolina passes Ordinance of Nullification
1859 Charles Darwin publishes "On the Origin of Species"
1863 Battle for Lookout Mountain (Battle Above the Clouds) began in Tennessee. Maj. Gen. Joseph Hooker's forces take Lookout Mountain, near Chattanooga, Tenn


1871 National Rifle Association organized (NYC)


1874 Joseph F Glidden patents barbed wire
1880 Southern University established
1896 1st US absentee voting law enacted by Vermont
1903 Clyde Coleman of NYC patents automobile electric starter
1914 Benito Mussolini leaves Italy's socialist party
1922 Italian parliament gives Mussolini dictatorial powers "for 1 year"
1927 Riot at Folsom prison
1930 1st woman pilot on a transcontinental air flight Miss Ruth Nichols (Mineola, NY to CA), in a Lockheed-Vega, took 7 days
(She kept stopping to ask for directions)
1938 National Semi-Pro Basketball Congress authorizes yellow basketball
1944 US bombers based on Saipan, 1st attack Tokyo
1947 John Steinbeck's novel "The Pearl" published
1947 Un-American Activities Committee finds "Hollywood 10" in contempt because of their refusal to reveal whether they were communists
1952 Agatha Christie's "The Mousetrap" opens in London
1954 1st US Presidential airplane christened
1958 Mali becomes an autonomous state within French Community
1960 Wilt Chamberlain pulls down 55 rebounds in a game (NBA record)
1963 1st live murder on TV-Jack Ruby shoots Lee Harvey Oswald
1964 Rebellion ends in Zaire
1965 Marshal Mobutu Sese Seko Kuku Ngbendu, becomes pres of Zaire
1966 400 die of respiratory failure & heart attack in killer NYC smog
1969 Apollo 12 returns to Earth
1970 Stanford's QB Jim Plunkett wins Heisman Trophy
1971 Dan "DB" Cooper parachutes from a Northwest AL 727 with $200,000
http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/scams/DB_Cooper/
1971 Prison rebellion at Rahway State Prison NJ
1977 Miami Bob Greise passes for 6 touchdowns vs St Louis (55-14)
1983 PLO exchanges 6 Israeli prisoners for 4,500 Palestinians & Lebanese
1985 The hijacking of an EgyptAir jetliner parked on the ground in Malta ended violently as Egyptian commandos stormed the plane. Fifty-eight people died in the raid, in addition to two others killed by the hijackers. Ali Rezaq of the Abu Nidal terrorist group was imprisoned in Malta for 7 years and then released. The US FBI apprehended him in Nigeria in 1993 and he was convicted by a US federal jury in 1996 and sentenced to life in prison.
1989 Communist Party resigns in Czechoslovakia
1991 1st international flight from Long Island's MacArthur Airport (to Mexico)
1991 After going 12-0 Washington loses to Dallas 24-21
1991 US 75th manned space mission "STS 44" Atlantis 10 launched
1992 Chinese air crash kills 141
1993 Brady bill passes establishing 5-day waiting period for handgun sales
(Well THAT worked out real well. Since this day no criminal has used a gun in the comission of a crime)
1993 End of world, according to Ukrainian sect White Brotherhood (going to go waaay out on a limb and say they were wrong)
1995 Ireland votes to end 70-year-old ban on divorce (50.28% to 49.72%)
1997 Saddam Hussein continues to withhold access to 63 weapons sites that included 47 presidential compounds
1999 It's reported that US married couples with children comprised 26% of the population as opposed to 45% in 1972
(OK people, let's get busy!)
2000 U.S. Supreme Court agrees to consider George W. Bush's appeal whether the extended Florida ballot counting violates federal law.
2003 A Virginia jury decided that John Allen Muhammad, convicted of masterminding the 2002 sniper attacks in the Washington DC region, should be executed.



Holidays
Note: Some Holidays are only applicable on a given "day of the week"

Zaire : New Regime Anniversary
Mass : John F Kennedy Day (1963) (Sunday)
US : Thanksgiving
US : Tryptophan awareness day
US : Game and Puzzle Week
US : Holidays Are Pickle Days (thru 12-31)
National Neurofibromatosis Month


Religious Observances
Old RC : Commemoration of St John of the Cross, confessor/doctor


Religious History
1703 In Philadelphia, German_born pastor and hymnwriter Justus Falckner, 31, became the first Lutheran clergyman to be ordained in America.
1713 Birth of Father Junipero Serra, Spanish missionary to western America. From 1769, he established 9 of the first 21 Franciscan missions founded along the Pacific coast, and baptized some 6,000 Indians before his death in 1784.
1838 Canadian Sulpician missionary Franois Blanchet, 43, first arrived in the Oregon Territory. A native of Quebec, he spent 45 years planting churches in the American Northwest, and is remembered today as the "Apostle of Oregon."
1880 In Montgomery, AL, more than 150 delegates from Baptist churches in 11 states met to form the Baptist Foreign Missions Convention of the United States. Liberian missionary William W. Colley was chief organizer, and the Rev. William H. McAlpine was elected the first president.
1941 American Trappist monk Thomas Merton wrote in his "Secular Journal": 'Spiritual dryness is an acute experience of longing therefore of love.'

Source: William D. Blake. ALMANAC OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH. Minneapolis: Bethany House, 1987.


Man Leads Police on Slow Lawnmower Case


Nov 23, 6:09 PM (ET)


SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) - Bad idea: fleeing from police in a stolen car. Terrible idea: fleeing in a stolen lawnmower. But that's what police say a "happy drunk" did, a decision that landed the suspect back in prison for violating his parole.

Police say they got a tip about a stolen riding lawnmower. When they investigated, they spotted a man driving across a cornfield near Springfield.
"I happened to be driving south when the call went out, and lo and behold, off to the west there was this man bouncing through the cornfield with his ponytail flopping in the breeze," said Kurt Taraba, a police officer in the suburb of Southern View.

Sangamon County Sheriff's Deputy Jim Tapscott said authorities set up a perimeter while he and another deputy drove into the field to talk to the lawnmower driver. They identified themselves and told him to stop, but he allegedly tried to drive off.
"I thought, 'You're on a riding mower, and we're in a car,'" Tapscott said with a laugh. "He was only going four or five miles per hour, so I got out and jogged alongside him."
The driver finally stopped when police threatened to stun him with a Taser.

Police arrested Charles H. Carter, 45, and returned him to the Illinois Department of Corrections. Carter was wearing an ankle monitor because he'd been on home confinement.
The Prisoner Review Board will decide whether he goes back on parole or remains in prison to serve the rest of his two-year sentence for theft.

Deputies have been unable to determine who owns the Craftsman mower. They said Carter had a handwritten bill of sale for it, but was unable to tell them where it was purchased or provide any other details.


Thought for the day :
"Life can't be all bad when for ten dollars you can buy all the Beethoven sonatas and listen to them for ten years."
William F. Buckley, Jr.


27 posted on 11/24/2005 8:28:55 AM PST by Valin (Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum)
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To: snippy_about_it

The Revenge of the Turkey!!


Turkey Beats Up Dog

OBERLIN, Ohio (USA) — A small town 30 miles southwest of Cleveland was put on alert after residents began to complain about a mad turkey on the loose. More than 20 complaints poured in to the Ohio Division of Wildlife, including a woman's claim that the foul-tempered fowl pecked a fight with her dog.

She told reporters that she has begun carrying a stick to defend herself and her pooch from the feathered fiend.

The Oberlin Chronicle-Telegram reports that the wild turkey has been seen regularly over the past year and has been becoming bolder in approaching humans.

"My kids have enjoyed watching it,” said resident John H. Scofield, whose Bronco (pictured, above right) has been a favorite roosting spot for the urban bird. But he said his children, ages 2 and 5, avoid getting close to the turkey.

It has sharp talons, a school principal warned students.

This week, the Ohio Division of Wildlife sent out a squad to study and capture the beast, but they were unable to find it. Dan Kramer, a wildlife management supervisor, cautions, "As far as we know, it’s still out there."


Turkey Attempts to Rob Bank

PLAINFIELD, Conn. (USA) — Customers of the Jewett City Savings Bank were reportedly held at bay by a 20-pound turkey hen who was perhaps bent on perpetrating the world's first bank gobblery.

Not far from a local supermarket where shoppers were carting home her frozen cousins, the wild turkey caused quite a stir, reports the Hartford Courant:

"The Plainfield turkey chased one man around his car and came at a woman who threw her keys at the creature. It took several people to corral the feisty bird, a feat eventually accomplished by a highway employee who raises geese and chickens.

"The gobbling creature was last seen strutting toward Pachaug Forest, where she has earned the right to live in peace, and the respect of several bank customers."


49 posted on 11/24/2005 9:14:36 AM PST by SAMWolf (The cost of feathers has risen, now even down is up)
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