Posted on 05/30/2005 11:11:55 PM PDT by SAMWolf
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![]() ![]() 1908 RMM (Rheinmetall) ![]() Complete with a 50mm gun for knocking down observation balloons. A unit was tested along with the 1909 Schneider armored truck (see below). This model was never purchased. The French Hotchkiss 1908 ![]() This vehicle was also sold to Turkey. The French Schneider 1909 ![]() This armored truck was the first AFV built and employed by the Spanish Army. The first one was purchased in 1910, being sent two years later to the Moroccan war theater. A second one, slightly different (more prominent engine compartment in the front) arrived to Spain in 1911. There are some documents but no photos about a third vehicle that arrived in 1921. The Spanish FT17 As a result of losses and lessons learned in the Rif War, Spain determined that tanks were needed in order to suppress the rebellion. Previously, over 12,000 men and their associated arms were lost in July 1921, partly due to inexperance, ignorance, and downright poor leadership. The result was that the rebellion now had modern arms. In order to overcome this terrible advantage they now had, an increase in technology was needed (as is with every war) in order to nullify the rebellion's increased fire power and the fact that the rebellion now had more supporters each day because they had shown that Spain could be defeated. ![]() After the shock of the loss, the Spanish government turned to the Spanish Foreign Legion. The Legion were among the finest soldiers in the world, and while they suffered, held, and scraped they way along in Africa, tanks were sought from England and France. British tanks, the Whippet, in particular, was far too expensive for the Spanish government to afford and so the French FT17 became the logical choice for them. The FT17 had and was proving to be the most important tank to emerge from WW1. It was powerful, light, had good cross country performance, simple maintenence, good fire power, good protection, a real turret, and was CHEAP. The FT17 was manufactured in the thousands in France, while licence built copys were being used by many nations around the world. This tank was such a bargin that it soldiered on right up into WW2! Some of the turrets made their way into Hitler's Atlantic Wall, while others performed police duties, snow removal, and tank driver training right up to the end of the war! This tank had a unique frameless design that got its strength from the body. This design was later applied to the automobile. There is a bit of the FT17 in the car you drive right now. In August 1921, the Spanish bought 12 of these 6.5 ton Renault tanks. Eleven were armed with 7mm Hotchkiss machine guns and one, the command tank, had the turret replace with a sheetmetal box containing a radio. ![]() The tank company was equiped with 12 tank transport trucks, 2 fuel tankers, auxiliary vehicles that included a repair truck. The TO&E listed a captain, 2 lieutenants, a sergeant major, 8 sergeants, 40 enlisted men that included drivers, cooks and mechanics. on 18 March 1922, after 2 months of training - sans weapon firing - the crews went into action. With NO infantry training, weapons testing, experance in wet weather, these crews deployed against the Beni Said Tribe. Advancing on the town of Tugunz and Ambar, the plan was to work with the Legion (infantry) and drive the tribe out of those towns. Despite mechanical problems from wet ignitions and leaky roofs, the attack went on at 0600 on 18 March 1922. At a rapid 4mph, the tanks soon out-distanced the infantry. The Beni Said fought like lions against this threat. Firing everything they had at the mechanical nightmares. Without supporting infantry, the tribemen were able to climb on the tanks and use their daggers to stab the eyes of the drivers through their vision slits. Finally, the tribesmen resorted to using rocks! At this point, with ignition failures, gun failures, and no support, the tanks were forced to withdraw leaving 2 tanks dead on the battlefield. Spain and these tankers would learn from this failure and form the Spanish Armor Corps - one of the finest armor forces in the world. It is not known if any of these tanks from this period took part in the Civil War. Read the Trubia section below for more on this tank model during that period. Camion Protegido Car 1921 ![]() The Camion Protegido armored car (or truck) was a 4x2 vehicle. There were many variations on this design, some with turrets, some without. Built in 1921 by the Electrotechnical Corps belonging to the Engineers branch of the army. 31 of this vehicles were built by the Centro Electrotécnico de Ingenieros between 1921 and 1924 on the following chassis: 1 Federal, 8 Nash-Quad 40 hp, 2 Benz 40/50 hp and 20 Latil 35 hp. 1921 Schneider CA-1 ![]() 6 units were purchased in September 16, 1921 so as to form a armored battery*. These units were sent to Morocco the 28 February 1922, being the first Spanish tanks engaged in combat the 14th of March. This unit worked with the Renault FT17 tank company in the Rif War but were not incorporated into the tank company in 1929. None of these tanks were ever lost in battle. After the war in Morocco they came back to the Peninsula in 1929 where they were kept in the Army depots. Some of them were available and used in 1936 during the early days of the Civil War. *Other units purchased in order to form the armored battery were 3 Krupp trucks, 1 Hispanic-Swiss "Aljibe" truck, 1 Hupmobile, and 2 Harley-Davidson motorcycles. Hispano-Suiza Armored Truck ![]() No information available 1923 Saint Chamond Wheel cum Track ![]() ![]() 7 units were purchased in September 16, 1923 so as to form a tank company. The Spanish soldiers quickly found out that they had been sold pure junk. They must have been purchased without any testing or someone received some "kick back" money because they were a failure from the start. After initial deployment, problems immediately arose with a total failure of one unit's drive system and it had to be returned for repair. After a few days 2 more failed just as the first. Soldiers quickly noted the lengthy time it took to switch from track to wheel. Other faults were thin armor, a weak engine, and a machine gun that could only be fired forward. The interior was prone to excessive heat and driver visablity was very poor. Further, the poor driver had to put up with hot, spent machine gun shell casings hitting his head as they were ejected! These vehicles were quickly retired. It is reported that 2 of these tanks are in a museum in Madrid but this has been disputed as there is no public display of them. Perhaps they are stored in private museums or "out of view" in a public museum. Trubia, Trubia A4 ![]() Though proposed for a full production, only 6 prototypes were produced. 3 of the prototypes took part in the Spanish Civil War in the Regiment of Infantry Milán. The 'Trubia' was based on the Renault FT-17 series of light tanks. It's superstructure was obviously different, but its suspension was basically the same. The tank was designed by army officer Captain Ruiz de Toledo, and built by Trubia in 1926 (hence the name). Successive improvements were made to the basic design until around 1931. Further developments of the 'Trubia' design resulted in the medium tank 'Landesa'. This tank was based on the commercial Landesa tractor (hence its name). Possibly 26 were built. The Trubia A4 was an improved design by Captain Ruiz de Toledo. The Oteyza 1935 ![]() It is believed that this was only a prototype. Verdeja ![]() The Verdeja was designed by the commander of artillery D. Felix Verdeja Bardales. Construction began in 1938 and the finished prototype was delivered in January of 1939. Fiat 3000 ![]() Fiat 3000 during a military parade. They are B model, with a 3.7 cm gun. One unit purchased for testing. Vickers Carden Loyd Tankette ![]() One unit purchased for testing. German PzKpfw IV Ausf. G & H ![]() An unknown number were aquired between 1943 and 1944. The Bilbao Armored Car In 1932 the government of the second republic formed the "Guardia de Asaltos". The Asaltos were motorized shock troops, armed with pistols, machine guns, rifles, mortars, and armored cars. Organized into 14 assault groups (18 in 1934) each had 3 companies supported by a specialist company. ![]() Each specialist company had a HQ element, a mortar and gas section, and a motorized section of 3 armored cars. The 3 armored cars were Bilbaos, built by the railway department of the Yard Spanish Society (SECN) Sestao, (Bilbao). The stock vehicle was the American Dodge 4x2 - model 1930. Dodge provided the chassis with a Chrysler motor, gearbox, and wheels. Using only the fenders, lights and front bumper from the stock body, a 'T' shaped iron girder was mounted on the chassis, and steel plates were riveted on it, forming the body structure. ![]() The body had a strong appearance however the armor was poor. There were 2 front seats for the commander and driver and 2 folding seats for the crew. Access doors could be opened from both ends, and there were 6 shielded windows along the front and sides plus a seventh rear window. The rear hull was extended by a bin for luggage and spares. On the roof was a rotating turret, with vision ports and a hatch on the top. ![]() The Bilbao was produced in two series, the first of 36 vehicles were supplied to the 18 assault guard companies, and a second series of 14 supplied to the cavalry "Grupo de auto ametalladoras - canon" reduced to 12 in August 1936 as 2 were returned to Sestao's factory. Today, there is a Bilbao perfectly preserved and fully operational at the "Escela de Logisica del Ejercito" - the only known survivor from those built between 1932 and 1936. The Vickers E Type, 6 Ton Tank ![]() Myth: "The tank in the photograph has an interesting history. The name of the tank is "Ina". Captured by the Paraguayans, she was made a war trophy. After the war with Bolivia, the tank was sold through a Swiss arms dealer to the Republic of Spain in 1937. It is not known if the tank ever took part in the Civil War or what became of it. Bolivia is the only nation in South America to ever use tanks in combat on that continent." Fact: The Paraguayans kept the tank at least into the 1970's (photographic proof in the Paraguay Section of TANKS!) and then it was returned to Bolivia as a gesture of peace. It is not known what happened to "Ina" when the tank arrived in Bolivia. German Stug3g ![]() 20 units were aquired in 1944. The Spanish pre-civil war tank force had some 40 Renault FT light tanks, 4 derelict Schneider CA-1 tanks, and 26 locally produced Trubia Model 1926 tanks. Spanish armor forces had seen combat in the Rif War in the 1920s...
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The Polish FT-17
* Some reports state "about 30", others state 64, still others claim 90. It is believed that Poland, with the agreement of Uruguay, sent some of the tanks to Spain. There were two or three companies (some 30-45 tanks) sold to China, and one (probably only one) company sold secretly to Spain via Uruguay. The tanks sold to China were sold officially.- the tanks sold to "Spain/Uruguay" couldn't be sold officially, because Poland was in so-called "non-intervention committee", which was formed by some European countries and didn't allow military sales to Spain during their civil war.
The "Landesa" Medium Tank
The French FT17
The Soviet FAI
The Union Naval de Levante, UNL-35
This vehicle was designed by Soviet engineer Nikolai N. Alymov for Spain and inspired by the Soviet FAI. A prototype was completed and Spanish engineers improved the initial design. A trained eye can spot the difference between a Soviet production FAI and the Spanish production UNL-35. The Spanish production unit has an almost "German" like turret.
Production began at the beginning of January 1937 at the rate of 5 per month, although in 1938 deliveries were curtailed due to air raids which eventually forced the relocation of the plant to the facilities of the firm Amat at Elda; where production recommenced once again in September. The production of ordnance continued until April 1939, when aircraft again bombed the facilities. There's evidence of the completion of 130 vehicles of the UNL-35 type alone (some of which were captured by the Nationals). After the war, the design was produced right into the 1950's.
The Soviet BA-6
Tanque de Juguete
The Soviet BA-20
T26
281 T-26 Model 1933 were sent to Spain to fight in the Civil War.*
* There are some discrepancies about the total number of tanks delivered to Spain. Most Russian sources quote a figure of 347 tanks (297 T-26 and 50 BT-5) while others quote figures as high as 362 tanks. Recent archival evidence suggests that the figure is lower, only 331 tanks. The various discrepancies were possibly caused by several events:
The transport ship Komsomol was sunk by the Spanish cruiser Canarias on 14 December 1936, probably carrying tanks that may have been counted in some of the totals. An attempted shipment of 25 T-26 tanks on the transport Iciar in the summer of 1937 was blocked when the crew refused to sail. Lastly, at least one shipment of 40 T-26 tanks that was returned to the USSR late in the war. The figures of 347 and 362 tanks probably refer to the number of tanks shipped, while the figure of 331 tanks is the total number of tanks actually delivered to Spain.
BT5
The Soviet T-28
Italian CV-33
Improvised Armor
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1936 - 39 Spain, having become a Republic after a plebsite vote, had many internal problems. The king, departed to France, without abdicating, the ruling party (Provisional Government of the Republic of Spain) had only been able to win by making deals with the 2 dozen plus other political parties. The weight that tipped the balance into civil war were the endless strikes by the communists and the government's inablility to halt them. When the government finally put it's foot down, it was too late. Gangland style executions were started by the communists, and the nation divided... |
Interesting your interest in the Spanish Civil War. Important affair far beyond Spain. The operations of the American Left are instructive today, particularly their recruiting and agitprop.
Speaking of agitprop, how about "For Whom the Bell Tolls"? Good old brave, heroic, virtuous Communists fighting the forces of evil.
The major media in the United States has been Leftist for a long time. There are always exceptions to this rule, but not many.
Good morning, snippy and everyone at the Foxhole.
Regards
alfa6 ;>}
Dad sentence. Read:
"The operations of the American Left are instructive today, particularly their recruiting and agitprop."
As:
"The operations of the American Left during the Spanish Civil War are still instructive today, particularly, in my opinion, their recruiting and agitprop."
The Communist materials from that period, a much more unsophisticated time, are, compared to what we see today, relatively open and obvious. The basic structure, though, is the same as we see today.
"Dad" should be "Bad". Need a spell checker for late at night. Time for bed.
So when Carl lost his mother, Marsha took the time to share her memories with us. She closed her note with these words: "Your mom always had a big smile on her face and was happy to see us. How wonderful to have such precious memories! We just loved your mom. We'll never forget her." Marsha is a Christian, and her words brought comfort in our grief. They reminded us of the joy of being part of Christ's body (Romans 12:5). Every believer has been given a specific gift or gifts by God to use in building up others-prophesying, ministering, teaching, exhorting, giving, leading, and showing mercy (vv.6-8). But all of us are to "be kindly affectionate to one another with brotherly love" (v.10) and to "rejoice with those who rejoice, and weep with those who weep" (v.15). Sometimes we hesitate to reach out to someone we don't know. We wonder if it is appropriate or if it will mean anything to the person. But that note from Marsha reminds us how much it means to be touched by a stranger. -Anne Cetas
Or the gentle breeze in spring, Just a little gift of kindness Joy to someone's heart can bring. -Hess Opportunities to be kind are never hard to find.
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Good morning, it's Tuesday and therefore QUILTING day.
On This Day In History
Birthdates which occurred on May 31:
1469 Manuel I king of Portugal (1495-1521) during era of exploration
1557 Theodorus I (Fedor Ivanovitsj) czar of Russia (1584-98)
1701 Alexander Cruden compiler of a concordance to King James Bible
1810 Horatio Seymour Governor (Union), died in 1886
1818 John Albion Andrew Governor (Union), died in 1867
1819 Walt Whitman West Hills NY, poet (Leaves of Grass)
1837 Stephen Dodson Ramseur Major General (Confederate Army), died in 1864
1837 William Henry Fitzhugh "Rooney" Lee Major General (Confederate Army)
1857 Pius XI [Ambrogio DA Ratti] Italy, 259th Roman Catholic Pope (1922-39)
1861 Emily Perkins Bissell welfare worker (1st christmas seal drive, 1907)
1872 Charles G Abbot US, astronomer (Constant Sun)
1872 William Heath Robinson England, illustrator/cartoonist (Don Quixote)
1892 Gregor Strasser German pharmacist/NSDAP-Reich organization leader
1894 Fred Allen Cambridge MA, comedian (Fred Allen Radio Show)
1898 Norman Vincent Peale Ohio, clergyman (Power of Positive Thinking)
1908 Don Ameche Kenosha WI, actor (Cocoon, Trading Places)
1912 Henry M "Scoop" Jackson (Senator-D-WA)
1920 Edward Bennett Williams lawyer/team owner (Redskins, Baltimore Orioles)
1921 Robert Arthur Ley UK, sci-fi author (Telepath, Power of X)
1922 Denholm Elliott London England, actor (Alfie, Cuba, Doll's House, King Rat)
1930 Clint Eastwood San Fransisco CA, actor (Dirty Harry)/mayor (Carmel CA)
1931 John Schrieffer US physicist (Nobel 1972)
1934 Jim Hutton Binghamton NY, actor (Ellery Queen)
1937 Vladislav Ivanovich Gulyayev Russia, cosmonaut
1938 Peter Yarrow New York NY, (Peter, Paul & Mary-Puff the Magic Dragon)
1939 Terry Waite Anglican Church envoy/Lebanese hostage
1941 Johnny Paycheck Greenfield OH, singer (Take This Job & Shove It)
1943 Joe Namath Beaver Falls PA, NFL QB (New York Jets), the $400,000 man (1969 Superbowl)
1943 Sharon Gless Los Angeles CA, actress (Chris Cagney-Cagney & Lacey)
1944 Mick Ralphs guitarist (Mott the Hoople, Bad Company)
1946 Rainer Werner Fassbinder German director (Marriage of Maria Braum)
1948 Rhea Perlman Brooklyn NY, actress (Carla-Cheers, Zena-Taxi)
1950 Tom Berenger Chicago IL, actor (Big Chill, Gettysburg)
1960 Chris Elliott New York NY, actor/comedian (Get a Life, David Letterman Show)
1961 Lea Thompson Rochester Minnesota, actress (Back to the Future, Space Camp)
1965 Brooke Shields New York NY, model/actress (Blue Lagoon, Suddenly Susan)
Memorial Day, how it all began.
GENERAL ORDERS #11
WASHINGTON, D.C., May 5, 1868
I. The 30th day of May, 1868, is designated for the purpose of strewing with flowers or otherwise decorating the graves of comrades who died in defense of their country during the late rebellion, and whose bodies now lie in almost every city, village, and hamlet church-yard in the land. In this observance no form of ceremony is prescribed, but posts and comrades will in their own way arrange such fitting services and testimonials of respect as circumstances may permit.
We are organized, comrades, as our regulations tell us, for the purpose among other things, "of preserving and strengthening those kind and fraternal feelings which have bound together the soldiers, sailors, and marines who united to suppress the late rebellion." What can aid more to assure this result than cherishing tenderly the memory of our heroic dead, who made their breasts a barricade between our country and its foes? Their soldier lives were the reveille of freedom to a race in chains, and their deaths the tattoo of rebellious tyranny in arms. We should guard their graves with sacred vigilance. All that the consecrated wealth and taste of the nation can add to their adornment and security is but a fitting tribute to the memory of her slain defenders. Let no wanton foot tread rudely on such hallowed grounds. Let pleasant paths invite the coming and going of reverent visitors and fond mourners. Let no vandalism of avarice or neglect, no ravages of time testify to the present or to the coming generations that we have forgotten as a people the cost of a free and undivided republic.
If our eyes grow dull, other hands slack, and other hearts cold in the solemn trust, ours shall keep it well as long as the light and warmth of life remain to us.
Let us, then, at the time appointed gather around their sacred remains and garland the passionless mounds above them with the choicest flowers of spring-time; let us raise above them the dear old flag they saved from his honor; let us in this solemn presence renew our pledges to aid and assist those whom they have left among us a sacred charge upon a nation's gratitude, the soldier's and sailor's widow and orphan.
II. It is the purpose of the Commander-in-Chief to inaugurate this observance with the hope that it will be kept up from year to year, while a survivor of the war remains to honor the memory of his departed comrades. He earnestly desires the public press to lend its friendly aid in bringing to the notice of comrades in all parts of the country in time for simultaneous compliance therewith.
III. Department commanders will use efforts to make this order effective.
By order of
JOHN A. LOGAN, Commander-in-Chief
N.P. CHIPMAN, Adjutant General
Official: WM. T. COLLINS, A.A.G.
Present!
HEY! Speak english! ;^)
Happy Treadhead Tuesday! Awesome looking relics . . . the pic of the armored truck looks some of the vehicles we see trying to cross our borders illegally.
Well I'm off to the front . . . er . . . rooftop. Gotta finish the chimney and loft windows before the sun starts baring down. Later . . .
Evening Grace
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