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The FReeper Foxhole Presents the Saturday Symposium - May 7th, 2005
our own minds :-)

Posted on 05/06/2005 10:08:51 PM PDT by snippy_about_it



Lord,

Keep our Troops forever in Your care

Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
.

FReepers from the Foxhole join in prayer
for all those serving their country at this time.



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1 posted on 05/06/2005 10:08:52 PM PDT by snippy_about_it
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I'm afraid I don't know enough to make a choice. I know the names, Nimitz, Spruance, Halsey, etc. But I don't know enough about each of them on a grand scale. Hopefully I'll learn a lot from our great minds discussing their choices here at the Foxhole.


2 posted on 05/06/2005 10:11:59 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; All

Adm. Chester Nimitz Bump for the Freeper Foxhole.

More later

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


3 posted on 05/06/2005 10:28:20 PM PDT by alfa6 (Same nightmare, different night)
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To: snippy_about_it

Morning!

Nimitz. :-)


4 posted on 05/06/2005 11:22:49 PM PDT by Wneighbor
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To: snippy_about_it
This poem or any portion of this poem may not be reproduced, duplicated, copied, sold, resold, or otherwise exploited for any purpose without the express written consent of the author. You may reach Tina A. Peace via e-mail by clicking here. Thank you for your support!
Copyright © November 9, 2001

A Soldier's Prayer

I feel your presence close to me
as I kneel here in the sand.
While I am here, I will not fear
as I know You hold my hand.

Walk with me, Lord, and lead the way
through this unfamiliar land.
Please keep me safe from any harm
while for my country, I take this stand.

Renew my strength, oh Lord, I pray
according to Your Word,
and I'll mount up with wings as eagles* --
Lord, I sure do love that bird!

She flies so freely over that land,
the land that I call home.
She's still "My Country 'Tis of Thee"
no matter where I roam.

Watch over my family here below
as You look down from on High.
Wrap them in Your loving arms
and dry the tears they cry.

I pray for my brothers here close by,
and for my sisters, too --
And for all Americans everywhere
as we defend the red, white and blue.

And for our President, I ask this day
as he leads our nation strong,
protect him and direct his steps --
help him to right this wrong.

And for our country -- her friends, her foes;
Lord, please rain down Your love.
Guide our hearts back towards You,
and keep us focused on above.

In Jesus' name, Amen

*Isaiah 40:31 KJV
 
 

But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength;
they shall mount up with wings as eagles;
they shall run, and not be weary;
and they shall walk, and not faint.

Isaiah 40:31 KJV
 
 

This prayer, and several versions related to other branches of our military, was written by my sister and I quote: "for all military personnel - past, present and future - and in memory of my father, William M. Adams, Sr. 1938-1965, who died overseas while stationed in the US Army. Safe in the arms of Jesus. I love you, Daddy!"

The prayer was originally sent to the President and made it's way to a Chaplain from the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs, who read it at the Veterans Day service in 2001 shortly after 9/11.

She also had the privilege of having the prayer read and posted on-board the USS Enterprise in 2002. ~PSG

5 posted on 05/07/2005 2:31:37 AM PDT by Petes Sandy Girl
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To: snippy_about_it; All
I really enjoy watching the History Channel. I was intrigued by William "Bull" Halsey so I did some checking on line and came up with some facts about him here: http://www.smartpedia.com/s/b/William_Halsey%2C_Jr.

What really caught my attention was that he has been quoted as saying, "By the time we're through with them, the Japanese language will be spoken only in hell." Clearly a time when our military commanders didn't have to worry about being PC.


6 posted on 05/07/2005 2:53:09 AM PDT by Petes Sandy Girl
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To: snippy_about_it


May 7, 2005

Get Off My Back!

Read:
Romans 7:14-25

Who will deliver me from this body of death? -Romans 7:24

Bible In One Year: Psalm 79-81

cover Roman emperors saw torture as a legitimate way to put muscle and teeth into their laws. They were known to bind the body of a murder victim to the back of his killer. Under penalty of death, no one was allowed to release the condemned criminal.

This terrible practice calls to mind the words of the apostle Paul in Romans 7. It's as if he felt that something dead was strapped to him and accompanied him wherever he went.

As children of God, we long for purity and holiness, yet at times we feel helplessly bound to the "dead body" of our flesh. Even though we are new creatures in Christ and we know that the physical body itself is not evil, the tendency to sin is always with us. This causes us to cry out with the apostle, "Who will deliver me from this body of death?" (v.24).

Paul answered his own cry in chapter 8. He said that through the forgiveness of Christ we are freed from eternal condemnation (v.1). Then by the strength of the indwelling Holy Spirit we are empowered to do the will of God (v.9). And someday in heaven these mortal bodies of ours will be redeemed (v.23). We are not hopelessly bound by the flesh.

Praise God, Christ broke the power of sin! We can serve Him in newness of life. -Mart De Haan

At times sin's power within grows strong,
Too strong, it seems, for us to bear;
But Jesus says, "Look unto Me.
I broke sin's power, so don't despair." -D. De Haan

To overcome sin, starve the old nature and feed the new.

FOR FURTHER STUDY
Knowing God Through Romans

7 posted on 05/07/2005 4:10:51 AM PDT by The Mayor (www.RusThompson.com)
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To: snippy_about_it

Raymond Spruance. One of the empirical proofs God loves the United States was the illness that kept Halsey from commanding at Midway.


8 posted on 05/07/2005 4:12:02 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Petes Sandy Girl

That quote is from when Halsey sailed into Pearl Harbor several days after the attack.

He also had a "colorfull" statement with regards to Hirohito and a white horse but I don't recall what it was, will have to see if I can find it later.

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


9 posted on 05/07/2005 4:32:52 AM PDT by alfa6 (Same nightmare, different night)
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To: PzLdr

An imperfect analogy but Halsey would be to Patton as Spruance was to Bradley.

Spruance, IMHO had the ability to see most of the possibilities of a situation and pick out the one that would yield the best results. Midway, is about the only time I can think of when Spruance took an uncalculated risk when he launched his aircraft when he did.

An intersting scenario would have been if Spruance had been in command at Leyte Gulf instead of Halsey, eh.

Regards

alfa67 ;>}


10 posted on 05/07/2005 4:38:48 AM PDT by alfa6 (Same nightmare, different night)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; All

Adm. Chester Nimitz would get my vote for the best admiral for his work in pulling together the Pacific Fleet after Pearl Harbor and seeing the completion of the Pacific Campaign.

About the only gaffe that I can attribute to Adm. Nimitz would be the issuing of the conflicting orders to Adm Halsey in the Leyte Gulf operation. Halsey was given the task of both protecting the landing fleet AND the destrruction of the IJN if it should appear. Halsey, being Halsey, upon the sighting of the IJN "bait" carriers north of the Phillipines took off after the "bait" leaving the San Bearnadino Straight unguarded. This almost lead to diaster if not for the efforts of the "Taffy" escort carriers and thier escorts.

More later, maybe, as I need to go log some blanket drill. 12 hours of frivolity and fun is almost more than I can stand.

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


11 posted on 05/07/2005 4:47:02 AM PDT by alfa6 (Same nightmare, different night)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; All
Time for one Slow But Deadly Jap carrier Killer Pic

Regards and Good Morning, er I mean Night, oh whatever

alfa6 :>}

12 posted on 05/07/2005 4:51:14 AM PDT by alfa6 (Same nightmare, different night)
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To: snippy_about_it

On This Day In History


Birthdates which occurred on May 07:
1530 Louis I Condé French prince/leader of hugenots
1574 Innocent X [Giambattista Pamfili] 236th Roman Catholic pope (1644-55)
1763 Josef Poniatovski Polish general/marshal of France
1774 Sir Francis Beaufort naval officer; devised wind force scale
1812 Robert Browning London England, poet (The Pied Piper)
1826 Varina Howell Davis 1st lady (Confederacy), died in 1905
1827 Francis Engle Patterson Brigadier General (Union volunteers), died in 1862
1832 Carl G Neumann German mathematician/physicist (Neumann-functions)
1833 Johannes Brahms Hamburg Germany, composer, enjoys a good lullaby
1840 Peter Ilyich Tchaikovsky Votkinsk Russia, composer (The Nutcracker, Swan Lake, 1812 Overture)
1861 Rabindranath Tagore Hindu poet/mystic/composer (Nobel '13)
1885 George "Gabby" Hayes Wellesvile NY, actor/heartthrob (In Old Santa Fe, El Paso)
1892 Archibald MacLeish Glencoe IL, political essayist/poet/dramatist (JB)
1892 Josip Broz Tito WWII partisan, leader of Yugoslavia (1943-80)
1901 Gary Cooper Helena MT, actor (2 Academy Awards-Sergeant York, High Noon)
1909 Edwin H Land inventor (instant photography (Polaroid))
1917 William Geoffrey Biddle bomb disposal expert
1919 Eva (Evita) [Duarte] Perón Argentina, 1st lady/actress
1922 Darren McGavin Spokane WA, actor (Night Stalker, Tribes, Turk 182)
1923 Anne Baxter Michigan City IN, actress (Myra-Marcus Welby, Victoria-Hotel)
1930 Aviard Gavrilovich Fastovets Russia, cosmonaut
1931 Teresa Brewer Toledo OH, singer (Put Another Nickel In)
1933 Johnny Unitas NFL QB (Baltimore Colts, San Diego); one of the greats
1934 Willard Scott weatherman (Today)
1944 John Heard actor (Pelican Brief, CHUD, Radio Flyer, Big)
1950 Janis Ian [Janis Eddy Fink] New York NY, rock vocalist (At 17, Society's Child)
1951 Robert Hegyes Metuchen NJ, actor (Underground Aces, Welcome Back Kotter)
1952 Derek Taylor rocker (Let it Be, Beatles Anthology)
1959 Tamara E Jernigan Chattanooga, PhD/astronaut (STS 40, 52, 67, 80)



Deaths which occurred on May 07:
0685 Marwan I ibn al-Hakam 4th kalief of Omajjaden (684-85), dies
0973 Otto I the Great Holy Roman Emperor (962-973), dies at 60
1166 Willem I the Bad, king of Sicily (1154-66)
1205 Ladislaus III Arpad King of Hungary (1204-05), dies at 5 or 6
1523 Franz von Sickingen German knight/protect of poor, dies of wounds at 42
1617 David Fabricius German astronomer, dies at 53
1818 Leopold Jan Antonin Kozeluh composer, dies at 70
1863 Amiel Weeks Whipple US Union general-major, dies of injuries at 46
1884 Judah P Benjamin confederate minister of War, dies at 72
1915 Alfred G Vanderbilt US millionaire, dies aboard Lusitania
1915 Alfred Scott Witherbee Jr US Lusitania officer, dies
1915 Charles Frohman dies aboard Lusitania
1929 Albert Anselmi US gangster, murdered by Al Capone
1929 John Scalise US gangster, murdered by Al Capone
1929 Joseph "Top Toad" Giunta US gangster, murdered by Al Capone (my my my. SOMEBODY had a busy day)
1968 Lurleen Burns wife of George Wallace/Governor of Alabama, dies at 41
1988 Divine [Harris Glenn Milstead] dies of natural causes at 42
1989 Guy Williams actor (Zorro, Lost in Space), dies in Argentina at 65
1990 Jessica James actress (Spring Break), dies of breast cancer at 60
1993 Mary Philbin actress (Phantom of the Opera), dies at 89
1994 Clement Greenberg US art critic (Art & Culture), dies at 85
1996 Howard Frank Trayton Smith diplomat/head of MI5, dies at 76
2000 Douglas Fairbanks Jr., film actor, died at age 90.
2002 Triple Crown winner "Seattle Slew" died at age 28, 25 years to the day after his victory in the Kentucky Derby


GWOT Casualties

Iraq
A Good Day


Afghanistan
05/07/04 Payne Jr., Ronald R. Corporal 23 Marine 2nd Lt. Armored Recon, 2nd Mar. Div., II Mar. Exped. Force Hostile - hostile fire Tawara (near)

http://icasualties.org/oif/
Data research by Pat Kneisler
Designed and maintained by Michael White


On this day...
0558 The dome of the church of St. Sophia in Constantinople collapses. Its immediate rebuilding was ordered by Justinian
1274 2nd Council of Lyons (14th ecumenical council) opens
1355 1,200 Jews of Toledo Spain killed by Count Henry of Trastamara
1416 Monk Nicolaas Serrurier arrested because of heresy at Tournay
1429 English siege of Orléans broken by Joan of Arc
1660 Isaack B Fubine of Savoy, in The Hague, patents macaroni
1700 William Penn began monthly meetings for Blacks advocating emancipation
1727 Jews are expelled from Ukraine by Empress Catherine I of Russia
1748 French troops conquer Maastricht
1775 Turkish state of Bukovina secedes from Austria
1789 1st inaugural ball (for George Washington in New York NY)
1792 Captain Robert Gray discovers Grays Harbor (Washington)
1800 Congress divided the Northwest Territory into two parts. The western part became the Indiana Territory and the eastern sections remained the Northwest Territory.
1824 Beethoven's 9th (Chorale) Symphony, premieres in Vienna
1832 Greece becomes independent republic
1832 Otto of Bavaria is chosen king of Greece
1840 Tornado strikes Natchez MS, kills 317
1847 American Medical Association organizes (Philadelphia)
1861 Riot occurs between prosecessionist & Union supporters in Knoxville TN
1862 Battle of West Point VA (Eltham's Landing, Barnhamsville)
1862 Much of Enschede Netherlands destroyed by fire
1864 Battle of Wilderness ends (total losses: USA-17,666; CSA-7,500) (It's a quagmire!!)
1864 Skirmish at Port Walthall Junction VA (Drewry's Bluff)
1866 German premier Otto von Bismarck seriously wounded in assassin attempt
1867 Blacks stage ride-in to protest segregation in New Orleans
1873 US marines attack Panamá
1877 Cincinnati Enquirer, 1st uses the term "Bullpen" to indicate foul territory


1888 George Eastman patents "Kodak box camera"


1891 Battle in Bunyoro: Captain F Lugard stops Moslem rebellion, 300 killed
1902 Soufriere volcano on St Vincent kills 2-5,000
1904 Flexible Flyer trademark registered
1909 Construction begins on first 100 houses in Ahuzat Bayit (Tel Aviv)
1912 Columbia University approves plans for awarding the Pulitzer Prize in several categories The award is established by Joseph Pulitzer
1913 British House of Commons rejects woman's right to vote
1914 US Congress establishes mother's day
1914 Woodrow Wilson's daughter Eleanor marries in the White House
1915 Lusitania sunk by German submarine; 1198 lives lost
1920 USSR recognizes independence of Georgia
1921 47th Kentucky Derby: Charles Thompson on Behave Yourself wins 2:04.2
1925 Pirate shortstop Glenn Wright makes an unassisted triple play
1928 England lowers age of women voters from 30 to 21
1934 World's largest pearl (6.4 kg) found at Palawan, Philippines
1938 64th Kentucky Derby: Eddie Arcaro aboard Lawrin wins in 2:04.8
1938 Dutch Minister of Justice Goseling calls fugitives of Nazi-Germany "undesired strangers"
1939 Germany & Italy announced an alliance known as the Rome-Berlin Axis
1941 British House of Commons votes for Churchill (477-3)
1941 Glenn Miller records "Chattanooga Choo Choo" for RCA

1942 Battle of Coral Sea ends stopping Japanese expansion

1942 Nazi decree orders all Jewish pregnant women of Kovno Ghetto executed
1943 Dutch men 18-35 obliged to report to labor camps
1943 Liberty Ship George Washington Carver, named after scientist, launched
1943 US 1st Armour division occupies Ferryville Tunisia
1943 US 9th Infantry division occupies Bizerta/Bensert Tunisia
1945 Formal undertaking of complete German surrender



1945 German General Keitel repeats surrender signing in Berlin for the benefit of the Russians; WWII ends in Europe



1945 Mauthausen Concentration Camp liberated
1945 Nazi Generals Jodl & Von Friedenburg surrender
1945 Princess Irene Brigade moves into the Hague Netherlands
1945 SS open fire on crowd in Amsterdam, killing 22
1946 William H Hastie inaugurated as 1st black governor of Virgin Islands
1947 "Kraft Television Theater" premieres on NBC
1947 General MacArthur approves Japanese constitution
1948 Nazi collaborator V-Mann Antonius van de Waals sentenced to death
1949 75th Kentucky Derby: Steve Brooks aboard Ponder wins in 2:04.2
1953 Record 537-kg swordfish is caught by L E Marron, in Chile

1954 French surrender to Vietminh after 55-day siege at Dien Bien Phu

1954 US, Great-Britain & France reject Russian membership in NATO
1955 81st Kentucky Derby: Bill Shoemaker aboard Swaps wins in 2:01.8
1955 USSR signs peace treaty with France & Great-Britain
1955 West Europe Union established
1956 Battle at Oran, Algeria, kills 300
1958 Major Howard Johnson, USAF, sets aircraft altitude record in F-104 (Lockheed Starfighter), 27,810 meters
1959 "Roy Campanella Night" Largest baseball crowd (93,103 in Los Angeles Coliseum) sees Dodgers' Sandy Koufax beat Yankees 6-2 in exhibition
1960 Leonid Brezhnev replaces Kliment Voroshilov as President of USSR
1960 USSR announces Francis Gary Powers confessed to being a CIA spy
1963 Bruno Sammartino becomes WWF champion
1963 SETC Telstar 2 launched (apogee 6,700 miles (10,800 km))
1966 92nd Kentucky Derby: Donald Brumfield aboard Kauai King wins in 2:02
1966 Mamas & Papas "Monday Monday" hits #1
1969 Lieutenant General Robert E Cushman, Jr, USMC, becomes deputy director of CIA
1970 "Long & Winding Road" becomes Beatles' last American release
1975 President Ford declares an end to "Vietnam Era"
1975 Small Astronomy Satellite Explorer 53 launched to study X-rays
1977 103rd Kentucky Derby: Jean Cruguet on Seattle Slew wins in 2:02.2
1982 Federal jury rules NFL violates antitrust laws in preventing Oakland Raiders from moving to Los Angeles
1982 IBM releases PC-DOS version 1.1
1982 US performs nuclear test at Nevada Test Site
1983 August Hoffman perform record 29,051 consecutive sit-ups (someone needs a life)
1984 $180 million out-of-court settlement reached in Agent Orange suit

1985 10 years after the Vietnam War ended, New York City honored Vietnam veterans with a huge ticker tape parade.

1987 Diane Chambers' (Shelley Long) final episode on Cheers
1987 Rep. Stewart McKinney, R-Conn., died of AIDS at age 56, the first member of Congress identified as a victim of the disease.
1989 Mark Merrony (Wales) cycles for 30 minutes in Nepal at 21,030 feet
1990 The White House put aside President Bush's pledge of no new taxes, saying talks to strike a budget deal with Congress would have "no preconditions."
1992 5 NYC cops arrested in Hauppauge Long Island for selling cocaine
1992 Constitutional amendment barring mid-term congressional raises passes
1992 Jockey Angel Cordero retires after winning over 7,000 horse races
1992 US space shuttle STS-49 launched (maiden voyage of Endeavour)
1994 Edvard Munchs painting "The Scream" recovered 3 months after stolen
1995 Jacques Chirac wins French presidential election
1996 Tax Freedom Day, the day on which the average American had earned enough to pay federal, state and local taxes (April 17th this year)
1995 Twins beat Indians 10-9 in 17 innings, 6 hours & 36 minutes (Hey, let's play two!)
1997 Galileo, 4th Ganymede Flyby (Orbit 8)
1998 iMac unveiled
1999 NATO jets struck the Chinese embassy in Belgrade, killing three people and injuring 20
2001 California electricity grid operators ordered statewide rolling power blackouts
2001 Escaped "Great Train Robber" Ronnie Biggs returns to Britian, arrested and jailed to complete the 28 remaining years of his sentence
2001 Report by the Int’l. Rescue Committee estimated the death toll in Congo’s 33-month war at 2 ½ million people, mostly due to disease and malnutrition.
2002 Lucas John Helder (21) of Pine Island, Minn., was arrested following a car chase near Lovelock, Nevada, and charged for the recent series of mailbox pipe bombs. Helder said he was trying to make a “smiley face” pattern on the map of his bombings
2004 In Karachi, Pakistan, a bomb exploded at a Shiite Muslim mosque packed with worshippers, killing 14 people and wounding more than 200


Holidays
Note: Some Holidays are only applicable on a given "day of the week"

Dahomey : Anniversary of the Presidential Council
Scotland : Spring Day
Thailand : State Ploughing Ceremony Day
World : Tuba Day
National Turn Off Your TV Week (Day 6)
Put-a-Book-in-Your Future Day
Good Car Keeping Month


Religious Observances
Christian : May Fellowship Day (Church Woman United)
old Roman Catholic : Feast of St Stanislaus, bishop, martyr, patron of Poland
St. Notkar Balbulus Feast Day


Religious History
1274 The Second Council of Lyons convened under Gregory X. attended by approximately 500 bishops, this council accomplished a temporary reunion of the separated Eastern Orthodox churches with the Roman Catholic Church.
1787 The New Jerusalem Church was formally established in London. More popularly known as Swedenborgianism, its theological tenets were based on the writings of Swedish scientist and mystic Emanuel Swedenborg (1688-1772). The first congregation in the U.S. was formed in Baltimore in 1792.
1839 Birth of Elisha A. Hoffman, American clergyman and a prolific writer of Gospel songs. His musical legacy has left the Church such favorites as: "What a Wonderful Savior," "I Must Tell Jesus," "Are You Washed in the Blood?" "Glory to His Name" and "Leaning on the Everlasting Arms."
1899 Amer Presbyterian missionary James Burton Rodgers, 34, preached his first sermon in the Philippines. Rodgers spent the next 35 years in evangelistic and educational ministries, and is regarded as the first Protestant missionary to the Philippines.
1951 Religious program "The Circuit Rider" broadcast for the last time over ABC television. Featuring sacred music and biographies of great evangelists, the series had premiered only two months earlier, in March.

Source: William D. Blake. ALMANAC OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH. Minneapolis: Bethany House, 1987.


Thought for the day :
"How often we fail to realize our good fortune in living in a country where happiness is more than a lack of tragedy."


13 posted on 05/07/2005 6:41:23 AM PDT by Valin (There is no sense in being pessimistic. It would not work anyway)
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To: snippy_about_it

John Paul Jones
A founder of the U.S. Navy
http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/traditions/html/jpjones.html

John Paul was born at Arbigland, Kirkbean, Kirkcudbright, Scotland, 6 July 1747. Apprenticed to a merchant at age 13, he went to sea in the brig Friendship to learn the art of seamanship. At 21, he received his first command, the brig John.


After several successful years as a merchant skipper in the West Indies trade, John Paul emigrated to the British colonies in North America and there added "Jones" to his name. At the outbreak of the American Revolution, Jones was in Virginia. He cast his lot with the rebels, and on 7 December 1775, he was commissioned first lieutenant in the Continental Navy, serving aboard Esek Hopkins' flagship Alfred.


As First Lieutenant in Alfred, he was the first to hoist the Grand Union flag on a Continental warship. On 1 November 1777, he commanded the Ranger, sailing for France. Sailing into Quiberon Bay, France, 14 February 1778, Jones and Admiral La Motte Piquet changed gun salutes — the first time that the Stars and Stripes, the flag of the new nation, was officially recognized by a foreign government.


Early in 1779, the French King gave Jones an ancient East Indiaman Duc de Duras, which Jones refitted, repaired, and renamed Bon Homme Richard as a compliment to his patron Benjamin Franklin. Commanding four other ships and two French privateers, he sailed 14 August 1779 to raid English shipping.



On 23 September 1779, his ship engaged the HMS Serapis in the North Sea off Famborough Head, England. Richard was blasted in the initial broadside the two ships exchanged, losing much of her firepower and many of her gunners. Captain Richard Pearson, commanding Serapis, called out to Jones, asking if he surrendered. Jones' reply: "I have not yet begun to fight!"


It was a bloody battle with the two ship literally locked in combat. Sharpshooting Marines and seamen in Richard's tops raked Serapis with gunfire, clearing the weather decks. Jones and his crew tenaciously fought on , even though their ship was sinking beneath them. Finally, Capt. Pearson tore down his colors and Serapis surrendered.


Bon Homme Richard sunk the next day and Jones was forced to transfer to Serapis.


After the American Revolution, Jones served as a Rear Admiral in the service of Empress Catherine of Russia, but returned to Paris in 1790. He died in Paris at the age of 45 on 18 July 1792. He was buried in St. Louis Cemetery, which belonged to the French royal family. Four years later, France's revolutionary government sold the property and the cemetery was forgotten.


In 1845, Col. John H. Sherburne began a campaign to return Jones' remains to the United States. He wrote Secretary of the Navy George Bancroft and requested the body be brought home aboard a ship of the Mediterrean Squadron. Six years later, preliminary arrangements were made, but the plans fell through when several of Jones' Scottish relatives objected. Had they not, another problem would have arisen. Jones was in an unmarked grave and no one knew exactly where that was.


American Ambassador Horace Porter began a systematic search for it in 1899. The burial place and Jones' body was discovered in April 1905. President Theodore Roosevelt sent four cruisers to bring it back to the U.S., and these ships were escorted up the Chesapeake Bay by seven battleships.


On 26 January 1913, the remains of John Paul Jones were laid to rest in the crypt of the U.S. Naval Academy Chapel in Annapolis, Md. Today, a Marine honor guard stands duty whenever the crypt is open to the public. Public visiting hours are from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m., Mondays through Saturdays, and from 1 p.m. to 4 p.m. on Sundays.


14 posted on 05/07/2005 7:03:08 AM PDT by Valin (There is no sense in being pessimistic. It would not work anyway)
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And a slightly different take on John Paul Jones

John Paul Jones (1747-1792)

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/3020/jones.html





John Paul Jones was born on July 6, 1747, in Kirkcudbright, Scotland. He was the son of a Scottish gardener and was originally named John Paul. At the age of 12 he entered the British merchant marine and went to sea for the first time, as a cabin boy. He sailed aboard merchantmen and slavers, becoming a first mate on a slaver brigantine by 1766 and receiving his first command in 1769. In 1773, as the commander of a merchant vessel, he killed a mutinous crewman at Tobago in the West Indies and, rather than stay in prison and wait for trial, he fled to North America. From that point the British considered him to be a pirate. A fugitive from British justice, he attempted to conceal his identity by adding the surname of Jones.

At the outbreak of war with Britain in 1775, John Paul Jones went to Philadelphia, and, with the help of two friendly members of the Continental Congress, obtained a lieutenant's commission in the Continental Navy. The following year he became captain of the sloop Providence. In his first adventure aboard the Providence he destroyed the British fisheries in Nova Scotia and captured 16 British prize ships.

In 1777 he took command of the sloop Ranger. Sailing to France in 1778, Jones received from the French the first salute given to the new American flag by a foreign warship. During the spring he terrorized the coastal population of Scotland and England by making daring raids ashore and destroying many British vessels.

His reputation in Paris greatly enhanced, Jones received from the French government a converted French merchantman, the Duras, which he renamed Bonhomme Richard (Good Man Richard) in honor of Benjamin Franklin.

Jones was then promoted to commodore and placed in command of a mixed fleet of American and French ships. Setting sail at the head of this small squadron on Aug. 14, 1779, he captured 17 merchantmen off the British coast and, on September 23, fell in with a convoy of British merchant vessels escorted by H.M.S. Serapis and Countess of Scarborough. Challenging Serapis, Jones deftly maneuvered Bonhomme Richard alongside the larger British vessel and lashed the two ships together. With the muzzles of their guns touching, the two warships fired into each other's insides. Although his smaller vessel was on fire and sinking, Jones rejected the British demand for surrender; "I have not yet begun to fight," he replied. More than three hours after the bloody battle began, Serapis surrendered, and Jones took command of it.

Although hailed as a hero in both Paris and Philadelphia, Jones encountered such stiff political rivalry at home that he never again held a major American command at sea. In 1788, Russian Empress Catherine II (The Great) appointed him rear admiral in the Russian navy. He took a leading part in the Black Sea campaign against the Ottoman Turks. Jealousy and political intrigue among his Russian rivals prevented him from receiving proper credit for his successes and resulted in his discharge. In 1790 he retired and went to live in Paris. In 1792 Jones was appointed U.S. Consul to Algiers, but on July 18 of that year he died before the commision arrived. He was buried in Paris, but in 1905 his remains were removed from his long-forgotton grave and brought to the United States where, in 1913, they were finally interred in the U.S. Naval Academy Chapel at Anapolis, Maryland.


15 posted on 05/07/2005 7:03:21 AM PDT by Valin (There is no sense in being pessimistic. It would not work anyway)
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To: snippy_about_it
Morning Snippy.

William "Bull" Halsey, I respect his agressiveness, he knew what needed to be done and nothing stopped him from accomplishing it.

. . . our ships searched east of Samar for other stragglers and for our airmen who had ditched the day before. We found no Jap ships, but Japanese swimmers were as thick as water bugs.

I was having breakfast when Bill Kitchell burst in and cried, "My God Almighty, Admiral, the little bastards are all over the place! Are we going to stop and pick 'em up?" I told him "Not until we've picked up our own boys."

. . . when we had recovered all the Americans, I ordered our destroyers "Bring in cooperative Nip flotsam for an intelligence sample. Noncooperators would probably like to rejoin their ancestors and should be accommodated." (I didn't want to risk their getting ashore, where they could reinforce the garrison.) The destroyers brought in six.

[From 'Admiral Halsey's Story' by Halsey & Bryan]

"Halsey had the knack of appointing extremely intelligent officers to his staff, on whom he relied for decision- making. On only rare occasions did he overrule them. 'Admiral Halsey's strongest point,' wrote a staff officer, 'was his superb leadership. While always the true professional and exacting professional performance from all subordinates, he had a charismatic effect on them which was like being touched by a a magic wand. Anyone so touched was determined to excel."

[From "Fleet Admiral William F. Halsey Jr" by James E. Merrill]

16 posted on 05/07/2005 8:04:40 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Liberal Rule #32 - Lie loud and long enough and someone may believe it.)
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Morning Glory Folks~

No golf this AM . . . I took yesterday off and played. Just gonna mow the yard, do some planting and hang out with my wild birds.

I'm afraid I don't know enough to make a choice.

That's my excuse . . . I also thought it was the reason I wasn't pinged this morning. ;^)

17 posted on 05/07/2005 8:08:18 AM PDT by w_over_w (Cat's are like Visa cards . . . they're everywhere you want to be.)
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To: Valin
1995 Jacques Chirac wins French presidential election
18 posted on 05/07/2005 8:18:52 AM PDT by w_over_w (Cat's are like Visa cards . . . they're everywhere you want to be.)
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PAUL BOURGET: Life can never be entirely dull to an American. When he has nothing else to do he can always spend a few years trying to discover who his grandfather was.
MARK TWAIN: Right, your Excellency. But I reckon a Frenchman's got a little standby for a dull time too; he can turn in and see if he can find out who his father was.


19 posted on 05/07/2005 8:29:37 AM PDT by Valin (There is no sense in being pessimistic. It would not work anyway)
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To: Valin
LOL! Classic Twain.

Last week Bill O'Reilly interviewed Richard Chesnoff, author of The Arrogance of the French: Why They can't stand us and Why the Feeling is Mutual." It turns out the French can't stand the Brits, Spaniards, Germans, Italians . . . the list goes on. But when O'Reilly asked Chesnoff (who maintains a cottage in the French country side), "how do the French feel about themselves?" Chesnoff replied, "in my village, they say the worst foreigner's come from Paris."

I guess all we can conclude is if God ever gives the world an enema, He'll give it through France.

20 posted on 05/07/2005 8:44:14 AM PDT by w_over_w (Cat's are like Visa cards . . . they're everywhere you want to be.)
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