Posted on 04/28/2005 9:46:33 PM PDT by snippy_about_it
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'That [the fall of Saigon] was probably the hardest day of my presidency for me. ... I think we made a very heroic effort and did the best we could under the worst of circumstances. I look upon it as the sadness of a retreat that I'll never forget. ' -- Former President Gerald R. Ford, |
We had quite a long day today and must start getting more sleep around here.
Good night everyone, see you in the morning.
Sleep tight.
Sad day in American history; but not one in American military history.
As you both well know, our Armed Forces did everything they were asked up to and often beyond the call of duty in Vietnam. As someone once noted, we won every battle, and "lost" the war. I put the responsibility for that "loss" directly at the feet of the Democrat Party and it's "leaders" in the United States Congress at the time. The historical record reflects this, all the way from the insane "Cooper-Church" amendment right up to their refusal to authorize the funds for South Vietnam's military--so necessary to that now vanished nation's survival circa 1973, '74, & '75--year after year following the treaty which guaranteed said aid.
The Thieu government wasn't perfect, by any means; but it was sure a hell heck of alot better than the communist regime that replaced it.
This post stirs a bit of the nostalgic in me, because it was the Fall of Saigon that stirred my first vague political leanings. I was six, and watched the news accounts of that evacuation on TV with my parents. During the course of the subsequent evening dinner banter about the day's events (a common occurrence at our supper table), I remember one of them saying, sarcastically, "well, at least the communists are happy tonight." And the other replying: "Don't forget the Democrats."
It was a throwaway remark, made half in jest, but it left a deep impression on me that I carried over from childhood. And it contained a kernel of absolute truth that has been proved over and over and over again as a verity in the subsequent years to my satisfaction; from Reagan's (ultimately successful) attempt to end the Cold War, to the current day WOT (and much in between), the Democrat leadership's public line, talking points, and ultimate position always seems to find itself on the opposite side of the country's national security and interests.
I guess you can say I became a little Republican on that faraway day, for life. I've seen no reason since to alter my partisan allegiance; the Democrats were then and remain now pitifully weak on such issues. And probably always will.
Anyway, far more than enough about my juvenile memories of that long-ago day when Saigon was evacuated; just found it interesting to reflect. It's amazing how powerful those memories remain thirty years after the event.
The best account I've read of those last days in Saigon are from this book: Epic Retreats: From 1776 to the Evacuation of Saigon by Stephen Tanner.
I highly recommend it: it is well-written, accurate, and conveys the tempo of the inevitable events leading up to that final day at a gripping pace.
Thanks, again, for posting this, and for all you both do on behalf of history and our veterans here in the Foxhole.
Good morning to everyone at the foxhole.((HUGS))
Good morning All.
And you asked me if I get any rest :-)
SAD 30 year bump for the Freeper Foxhole
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On This Day In History
Birthdates which occurred on April 29:
1660 Matthias Henriksen Schacht composer
1745 Oliver Ellsworth 3rd Chief Justice Supreme Court (1796-1800)
1769 The Duke of Wellington (1769-1852) born.
1806 Earnest Freiherr von Feuchtersleben Austria, physician/philosopher
1815 Abram Duryee Brevet Major General (Union volunteers), died in 1890
1818 Alexander II [N Romanov] Tsar of Russia (1855-81)
1855 Anatol K Liadov Russian composer (Bewitched Lake)
1860 Lorado Taft US, sculptor (Black Hawk)
1863 William Randolph Hearst publisher (San Francisco Examiner, Seattle P-I)
1879 Sir Thomas Beecham England, composer, founded London Philharmonic
1893 Harold C Urey Walkerton IN, physicist (discovered Deuterium, Nobel 1934)
1899 Duke [Edward Kennedy] Ellington Washington DC, bandleader (Take the A Train, It Dont Mean a Thing (If It Aint Got That Swing))
1901 Emperor Hirohito of Japan (1926-89)
1907 Fred Zinnemann Vienna Austria, movie director (From Here to Eternity, Day of the Jackal, Julia)
1908 Jack [Stewart] Williamson US, sci-fi author (Firechild, Golden Blood, Cometeers)
1909 Tom Ewell [S Yewell Tompkins] Owensboro KY, actor (Tom Ewell Show, 7 Year Itch, Adam's Rib)
1915 Donald Mills singer (Mills Brothers)
1919 Celeste Holm New York NY, actress (Gentleman's Agreement, All About Eve)
1922 George Allen football coach (Los Angeles Rams, Washington Redskins)
1922 Toots [Jean] Thielemans Belgian/US jazz musician/composer
1928 Carl Gardner Tyler TX, rock vocalist (Coasters-Searchin)
1931 Aleksei Aleksandrovich Gubarev USSR, cosmonaut (Soyuz 17, 28)
1932 Alexei A Gubarev cosmonaut (Soyuz 17, 28)
1932 Yevgeni Alekseyevich Zaikin Russian cosmonaut (Voshkod 2 backup)
1936 Richard Lynch actor (Xavier-Battlestar Galactica)
1936 Zubin Mehta Bombay India, conductor (New York Philharmonic)
1936 Jacob Rothschild English banker/multi-millionaire
1946 John Waters Baltimore MD, director (Hairspray)
1947 Tommy James singer(?) (cri-im-son & clo-o-ver o-o-ver & o-o-ver)
1951 [Ralph] Dale Earnhardt Kannapolis NC, NASCAR driver/"The Intimidator"
1953 Nikolai Nikolayevich Budarin Kirya Russia, cosmonaut (STS 71, TM-27)
1954 Bill Paxon (Representative-Republican-NY)
1955 Kate Mulgrew Dubuque IA, actress (Captain Janeway-Star Trek Voyager, Heartbeat, Kate Loves a Mystery)
1955 Jerry Seinfeld comedian/actor (Seinfeld)
1958 Michelle Pfeiffer Santa Ana CA, actress (What Lies Beneath, Up Close & Personal, Ladyhawke, Married to the Mob, Grease 2)
1967 Rachel Williams Greenwich Village NY, model (Absolut Vodka, Elle)
1970 Uma Thurman Boston MA, actress (Baron Munchausen, Pulp Fiction)
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