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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers The Dragoon Expeditions (1843-1845) - Feb. 2nd, 2005
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Posted on 02/02/2005 2:03:08 AM PST by SAMWolf



Lord,

Keep our Troops forever in Your care

Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
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for all those serving their country at this time.


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Manifest Destiny: The Dragoon Expeditions


In the 1840s, westward expansion proceeded at a rapid pace. Promises of wide-open spaces and inexpensive land with rich soil enticed many people in the East to pack up their possessions and head West. As the population of Americans on the West Coast increased, so too did the nation's desire to actually own the land that these Americans were settling. The phrase "Manifest Destiny" was coined to describe the philosophy shared by many that the United States had a divine right to become a transcontinental nation. To that end, the 1840s became a decade of rapid territorial acquisition and expansion.



Dragoon soldiers from Fort Scott participated in many activities that contributed to westward expansion. They provided armed escorts for parties on the Santa Fe and Oregon Trails, surveyed unmapped country, and maintained contact with Plains Indians. Each summer, from 1843-45, several companies of dragoons, including Company A, 1st U.S. Dragoons, from Fort Scott, participated in military expeditions along the overland trails. The purpose of these expeditions was to protect travel and trade along the trails and to keep the Plains Indians at peace.

Trouble with Texans


The first of these expeditions took place along the Santa Fe Trail - a trade route between Missouri and Santa Fe - then part of Mexico. The United States Dragoons, organized in 1833, had been charged with protecting the traders along the trail from Indian attacks.



In 1843, trouble erupted along the Santa Fe Trail, not from Indian attacks but from Texans. Ill will existed between Texas and Mexico even before the Texan Revolution of 1836. Prejudice and hatred on both sides, border squabbles and violence continued into the 1840s. In 1843, Texas "freebooters" began attacking Mexican caravans along the trail.

One group of Texans murdered Antonio Chavez, a Mexican trader, on American soil. The army apprehended and punished the killers but traders were fearful of further attacks and asked the War Department to furnish a military escort that year from Missouri to Santa Fe.

"We are not on American soil"


Captain Philip St. George Cooke led five companies of dragoons along the Santa Fe Trail to protect the trade. In route, the dragoons encountered Jacob Snively, who held a commission from Texas to raid Mexican caravans on Mexican soil. Two days prior to their meeting with Cooke, Snively's men had attacked Mexican soldiers, killing several of them and taking their weapons.



Upon their initial encounter, Snively's men and the dragoons were across the Arkansas River from each other. The land north of the river clearly belonged to the United States, but south of the river, U.S. territory only extended west to the 100th meridian.

Snively claimed that he was forty miles west of the boundary, but Cooke contended that Snively was on American soil. Therefore, he ordered Fort Scott's dragoons under Captain Terrett, to cross the river and disarm the freebooters. The dragoons left the freebooters only ten guns for defense on their way back to Texas. A rumor persists that the Texans had hidden their own guns and surrendered the previously confiscated Mexican weapons to the dragoons.



The 1843 expedition earned Captain Cooke the undying hatred of the Texans but was successful because it discouraged any further attacks along the Santa Fe Trail that year.

Thanks to FReeper ijcr for suggesting and researching this Thread




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To: Samwise

Hi Samwise.

I see the actor who played Samwise is gonna be on some SciFi time travel flick.


21 posted on 02/02/2005 5:14:11 AM PST by SAMWolf (The new Divorce Barbie: Comes with all of Ken's belongings.)
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To: The Mayor

Morning Mayor.


22 posted on 02/02/2005 5:14:31 AM PST by SAMWolf (The new Divorce Barbie: Comes with all of Ken's belongings.)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
Well, today is Norton Update day. Be sure to download the updates.

We escaped with rain here in our area. Temps were quite cold enough for it to turn to snow. There was a power outage last night. A trnasformer blow in the are Form Gore Blvd. to Cache Road on 38th Streein Lawton Oklahoma caused some parts for Lawton to be without power. It was later restored a few hours later.

How's it going, Snippy?

23 posted on 02/02/2005 5:15:35 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: SAMWolf

Morning Sam

Early start for you these days..


24 posted on 02/02/2005 5:15:48 AM PST by The Mayor (Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.)
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To: SAMWolf

Do you know the name of Sean Astin's movie?


25 posted on 02/02/2005 5:16:25 AM PST by Samwise ("Mr. Kerry, you are a jerk.")
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To: The Mayor

Can't sleep. :-(


26 posted on 02/02/2005 5:28:08 AM PST by SAMWolf (The new Divorce Barbie: Comes with all of Ken's belongings.)
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To: Samwise
Slipstream
27 posted on 02/02/2005 5:29:28 AM PST by SAMWolf (The new Divorce Barbie: Comes with all of Ken's belongings.)
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To: SAMWolf

I love time travel stories. What if....

But according to the trailer, he keeps making things worse. That would be my luck.


28 posted on 02/02/2005 5:39:17 AM PST by Samwise ("Mr. Kerry, you are a jerk.")
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To: SAMWolf

From a ZOT! thread. Strangle and Smoke the trolls!


29 posted on 02/02/2005 5:52:14 AM PST by Professional Engineer (My honor student just fired your tough kid.)
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To: SAMWolf

On This Day In History


Birthdates which occurred on February 02:
1502 Damiao de Góis Portuguese humanist scholar
1649 Benedict XIII [Pierfrancesco Orsini], Italy, 245th pope (1724-30)
1748 Christian Gottfried Thomas composer
1754 Charles-Maurice duke of Talleyrand-Périgord French bishop/premier (1815)
1803 Albert Sidney Johnston General (Confederate Army), mortally wounded at Shiloh in 1862
1815 Nathaniel Collins McLean Brigadier General (Union volunteers), died in 1905
1817 John Glover, English chemist (sulfuric acid), was born
1827 Abner Monroe Perrin Brigadier General (Confederate Army), died in 1864
1861 Solomon R Guggenheim philanthropist (died aboard the Titanic)
1861 Mehmed VI Vahideddin last sultan of Ottoman Empire (1918-22)
1882 James Joyce Ireland, novelist/poet (Dubliners, Ulysses, Finnigan's Wake)
1895 George S Halas [Papa Bear], end/coach (Bears), co-founder NFL
1905 Ayn Rand writer (Atlas Shrugged, The Fountainhead)
1906 Gale Gordon Los Angeles CA, actor (Here's Lucy, Our Miss Brooks)
1920 A. Wang, founder of Wang Labs and Wang Computers, was born
1923 Mary Elizabeth "Liz" Smith Ft Worth TX, gossip columnist (New York Daily News, NBC-TV)
1923 James Dickey Atlanta GA, author/poet/actor (Deliverance)
1926 Valéry Giscard d'Estaing President of France (1974-81)
1927 Stan Getz Philadelphia PA, jazz tenor saxophonist (Benny Goodman, Jimmy Dorsey)
1937 Tom Smothers New York NY, comedian (Smother Brother Show)
1942 Bo Hopkins Greenville SC, actor (Dynasty, The Wild Bunch, Rockford Files)
1942 Graham Nash rocker (Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young-Southern Cross, Hollies)
1947 Mary Farrah Leni Fawcett Corpus Christi TX, actress (Charlie's Angels, Burning Bed)
1948 Jessica Savitch Kennett Square PA, news anchor (NBC)
1954 Christie Brinkley [Ex-Mrs Billy Joel], model/actress (Sports Illustrated, Vacation)
1963 Pebbles Flintstone fictional character on "The Flintstones"
2338 Data android character on Star Trek Next Generation



Deaths which occurred on February 02:
1032 Rudolf III last independent king of Burgundy, dies
1597 Lucas van Valckenborch Flemish painter, buried at about 61
1804 Caesar Rodney US judge (signed Declaration of Independence), dies at 62
1918 John L Sullivan Massachusetts, heavyweight boxing champion, dies at 59
1969 Boris Karloff [Pratt], British actor (Frankenstein), dies at 81
1970 Bertrand Russell philosopher, British MP, dies in Merioneth at 97
1983 Sam Chatman elder statesman of the blues, dies
1987 Alfred Lion record founder (Blue Note), dies at 78
1989 John Cassavetes US actor (Rosemary's Baby)/director, dies at 59
1992 Bert Parks [Jacobson], TV host (Miss America Pageant), dies at 77
1994 Willie Mae Ford Smith gospel Singer/Songwriter, dies at 89
1995 Donald Pleasance English actor (Halloween, Will Penny), dies at 75
1995 Robert L Haller coon Dog Trainer, dies at 32
1996 Gene Kelly actor/dancer (Singing in the Rain), dies at 83



Reported: MISSING in ACTION

1965 HERTZ GUSTAV G.
[09/21/67 DIC ON PRG LIST]
1968 RAGSDALE THOMAS
1968 ADKINS CHARLES L.---BARNESVILLE OH.
1968 BURNHAM DONALD D.---WEBB AL.
1968 PATTON KENNETH J.---MC KEES ROCK PA.
1968 PRINGLE JOE H.---HORNER WV.
[ID FOUND AT CRASH SITE]
1968 PUGGI JOSEPH D.---PLEASANTVILLE NJ.

POW / MIA Data & Bios supplied by
the P.O.W. NETWORK. Skidmore, MO. USA.


On this day...
0506 King Alarik II of Visigoten delegates Lex Romania Visigothorum out
0962 Pope John XII crowns German King Otto I the Great Emperor
1119 Guido di Borgogna elected Pope Callistus II
1386 Jogaila was elected King of Poland
1461 2nd battle of St Alban's-Lancastrians defeat Yorkists
1536 Pedro de Mendoza founds the Argentine city of Buenos Aires
1626 Charles I was crowned King of England.
1653 New Amsterdam becomes a city (later New York NY)
1802 1st leopard exhibited in US, Boston (admission 25¢)
1811 Russian settlers establish Fort Ross trading post, north of San Francisco
1848 1st shipload of Chinese arrive in San Francisco
1848 Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo ends Mexican War; US acquires Texas, California, New Mexico & Arizona for $15 million
1852 1st British public men's toilet opens (Fleet St London)
1854 Pope Pius IX encyclical "On the persecution of Armenians"
1863 Samuel Clemens becomes Mark Twain for 1st time
1865 Confederate raider William Quantrill raids Midway, Kentucky
1869 James Oliver invents the removable tempered steel plow blade
1876 Baseball's National League forms with teams in Boston, Chicago, Cincinnati, Hartford, Louisville, New York, Philadelphia, St Louis
1882 Knights of Columbus forms in New Haven CT
1892 Longest boxing match under modern rules; 77 rounds in Nameoki, Illinois between Harry Sharpe & Frank Crosby
1892 Bottle cap with cork seal patented by William Painter (Baltimore)
1893 1st movie close-up (of a sneeze), Edison studio, West Orange NJ
1901 Female Army Nurse Corps established as a permanent organization
1906 Pope issues encyclical against separation of church & state
1909 Italian writer Marinetti publishes Futurist Manifest in Paris
1919 Monarchist riot in Portugal
1922 James Joyce's "Ulysses" published in Paris (1,000 copies)
1923 Ethyl gasoline 1st marketed, Dayton OH
1925 Dogsleds reach Nome with emergency diphtheria serum after 1000-km
1926 3 men dance the Charleston for 22½ hours
1932 Al Capone sent to prison (Atlanta GA)
1933 2 days after becoming chancellor, Adolf Hitler dissolves Parliament
1933 Göring bans communist meetings/demonstrations in Germany
1934 Dutch Roman Catholic Bishops warn against fascism/Nazism
1935 Lie detector 1st used in court (Portage WI)
1940 Frank Sinatra's singing debut in Indianapolis (Tommy Dorsey Orchestra)
1942 Los Angeles Times urges security measures against Japanese-Americans
1943 Cubs return to original uniform after experimenting with a vest
1944 4th US marine division conquerors Roi, Marshall Islands
1944 Allied troops 1st set foot on Japanese territory
1948 President Truman urges congress to adopt a civil rights program
1950 1st broadcast of "What's My Line" on CBS-TV
1951 -35ºF, Greenburg, Indiana (state record until 1994)
1954 Snow falls on Gibraltar
1955 1st Presidential news conference on network TV-Eisenhower on ABC
1956 Coasters sign with Atlantic Records
1957 Liz Taylor's 3rd marriage (Mike Todd)
1958 Syria joins Egypt in United Arab Republic
1959 Buddy Holly's last performance
1959 Vince Lombardi signs a 5 year contract to coach the Green Bay Packers
1962 8 of 9 planets align for 1st time in 400 years
1964 GI Joe, debuts as a popular American boy's toy
1970 Pete Maravich becomes 1st to score 3,000 college basketball points
1971 Idi Amin ousts Milton Obote to become dictator of Uganda
1973 James R Schlesinger becomes director of the CIA (until July)
1973 "Midnight Special" rock music show debuts on NBC-TV
1974 Pope Paul VI encyclical "To Honor Mary"
1974 Smallest crowd at Cleveland Arena (Cavaliers vs Golden State-1,641)
1974 Barbra Streisand's 1st #1 hit, "The Way We Were"
1977 Radio Shack officially begins creating the TRS-80 computer
1980 FBI releases details of Abscam, a sting operation that targeted 31 elected & public officials for bribes for political favors
1982 "Late Night with David Letterman" premieres on NBC
1982 Government troops & Moslem-fundamentalists battle in Hamah Syria
1983 Chicago Archbishop Joseph L Bernardin is among 18 new cardinals invested
1986 Dalai Lama meets Pope John Paul II in India
1989 0ºF (-18ºC) or below in 15 US states
1989 F[rederik] W[illem] de Klerk replaces Botha as South Africa's Nationalist Party leader
1991 US postage is raised from 25¢ to 29¢
1992 IRS & Willie Nelson settle on $9 million tax bill (of $16.7 million)
1993 Frito Lay pays court ordered $2,500,000 to Tom Waits for using his song, "Step Right Up"
1995 The leaders of Egypt, Israel, Jordan and the Palestinians held an unprecedented summit in Cairo to try to revive the Mideast peace process.
1996 The leaders of Egypt, Israel, Jordan and the Palestinians held an unprecedented summit in Cairo to try to revive the Mideast peace process.
1998 Daniel Baldwin hospitalized in New York NY for cocaine overdose
2000 The TV cable Oxygen channel, dedicated to female viewers, made its debut
2002 Jim Kelly of the Buffalo Bills and Pittsburgh Steelers star John Stallworth were elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame
2003 Vaclav Havel stepped down after 13 years as president of the Czech Republic
2004 In Nepal some 15,000 people marched in downtown Katmandu demanding democratic reforms. Police broke up the rally with tear gas, water cannons and bamboo batons, injuring at least 12 people.
2004 Pakistan said Abdul Qadeer Khan, the founder of its nuclear program, has acknowledged in a written statement that he sent sensitive technology to Iran, Libya and North Korea to aid their atomic programs.


Holidays
Note: Some Holidays are only applicable on a given "day of the week"
Scotland] Term Day (quarterly rents due today)
US : Muffin Mania Week (Day 2)
US : Groundhog Day (To ski or not to ski)
Macadamia Nut Month


Religious Observances
Anglican, Roman Catholic, Lutheran : Candlemas (Presentation or Purification)
Christian : Feast of St Cornelius
Liechtenstein, Vatican : Candlemas/Feast of Presentation of Jesus
Wicca : Imbolg sabbat
Roman Catholic : Commemoration of St Jeanne de Lestonnac, French foundress


Religious History
1779 Pioneer American Methodist bishop Francis Asbury reflected in his journal: 'God is gracious beyond the power of language to describe.'
1881 The first formal church youth organization was established in the Williston Congregational Church in Portland, Maine, by the Rev. Francis E. Clark, 29. Originally called "Christian Endeavor," it became the prototype of the modern denominational "youth fellowship."
1907 In a letter written to American statesman William Jennings Bryan, Christian Russian novelist Leo Tolstoy counseled: 'The most important thing is to know the will of God concerning one's life, i.e., to know what he wishes us to do and fulfill it.'
1944 German theologian and Nazi martyr Dietrich Bonhoeffer wrote in a letter from prison: 'There is a kind of weakness that Christianity does not hold with, but which people insist on claiming as Christian, and then sling mud at it.'
1955 English apologist C.S. Lewis wrote in a letter: 'It is right...that we should be much concerned about the salvation of those we love. But we must be careful not to...demand that their salvation should conform to some ready-made pattern of our own.'

Source: William D. Blake. ALMANAC OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH. Minneapolis: Bethany House, 1987.


Thought for the day :
"Any society that needs disclaimers has too many lawyers."


30 posted on 02/02/2005 6:51:29 AM PST by Valin (Sometimes you're the bug, and sometimes you're the windshield)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Professional Engineer; alfa6; Matthew Paul; All

Good morning everyone.

31 posted on 02/02/2005 7:20:24 AM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: SAMWolf

The Santa Fe Trail map shows a "Cimmaron Route" that looks just like the route of old Route 66 through that area.

I think the Dragoons avoided the Apache areas to the west. While driving through the area using secondary roads I found a spot where a US Dragoon expedition had been destroyed in battle with Apache tribesmen in about 1840. Pretty place, with good water and farmland. Might have been on the road to Alpine from New Mexico.

Years ago, forget exactly where it was.


32 posted on 02/02/2005 8:03:40 AM PST by Iris7 (.....to protect the Constitution from all enemies, both foreign and domestic. Same bunch, anyway.)
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To: snippy_about_it

I grew up near Fort Scott and my mother went through nusing school there. When I was little the old fort was pretty much a crumbling collection of old abandoned buildings that were often occupied by hobos jumping the nearby rail line. I'm a National Park Service volunteer at the Fort Scott events. Usually I'm part of the artillary demonstration. The fort will be 100% restored by August. They've been working on it a long time and have done a very exact and beautiful job. When we go there to participate the fort provides us with everything. Food, barracks lodging, uniforms and weapons. They currently keep a dozen or so horses for the Dragoons. The old style uniforms are pretty uncomfortable with high stiff collars, itchy wool trowsers and often ill fitting 'wheel hats' or in the case of officers a tall plumed shako. The fort never had walls but instead relied upon emplaced cannon and earthen berms that functioned as defensive rifle pits. The buildings are large and spacious. The parade ground is kept in better condition than most lawns. Do a google on Fort Scott and take a look. It's really something.


33 posted on 02/02/2005 8:27:50 AM PST by Lee Heggy (For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong. H.L. Mencken)
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To: Valin; SAMWolf
1386 Jogaila was elected King of Poland




http://artyzm.com/matejko/poczet/e_jagiello.htm
34 posted on 02/02/2005 9:16:46 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: SAMWolf; All
GA, Sam, et.al.!

free dixie,sw

35 posted on 02/02/2005 9:40:34 AM PST by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: SAMWolf

Thought my tagline would fit in here.


36 posted on 02/02/2005 9:42:14 AM PST by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: SAMWolf
Light Cavalry vs. Dragoons

LOL. Before I asked the silly question, I went looking and found this same essay.

37 posted on 02/02/2005 10:49:48 AM PST by Professional Engineer (My honor student just fired your tough kid.)
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To: Samwise
I never got that lunch with Jim Robinson or the trip to Disney World. LOL

I had dinner with JimRob last June, but it was Dutch treat.

38 posted on 02/02/2005 10:51:25 AM PST by Professional Engineer (My honor student just fired your tough kid.)
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To: Valin
1597 Lucas van Valckenborch Flemish painter, buried at about 61

Was he dead first? Inquiring minds want to know.

39 posted on 02/02/2005 10:53:42 AM PST by Professional Engineer (My honor student just fired your tough kid.)
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To: Lee Heggy
Thanks, Lee. I'd heard that restoration was going really great.
40 posted on 02/02/2005 12:28:33 PM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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