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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers the Duel at Dessau (4/21/1945) - Dec 9th, 2004
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Posted on 12/09/2004 12:34:49 AM PST by SAMWolf



Lord,

Keep our Troops forever in Your care

Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
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FReepers from the Foxhole join in prayer
for all those serving their country at this time.


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DUEL AT DESSAU
3AD's "Super Pershing"
vs
Germany's "King Tiger"
WWII's two most powerful tanks meet in a historic encounter


Only three days before the 3rd Armored Division's final combat action of WWII, a Super Pershing of the 33rd Armored Regiment met and defeated the most powerful and most heavily armored German tank of the war - the legendary 77-ton King Tiger, also known as the Tiger II or Tiger Royal. It would be the first and only meeting between a King Tiger and the Super Pershing, a modified standard M26 Pershing weighing 53 tons - an almost "secret" tank that, to this day, remains largely an enigma to military historians.



Only two Super Pershings were ever built, and the 3AD had the only one in the European Theater - an experimental version with its remarkably long barrel. Arriving very late in the war (March, 1945), it was field tested and modified inside Germany and subsequently saw about ten days of actual combat action, beginning several days after the Battle of Paderborn and ending with the Battle of Dessau on the Elbe River.

The Super Pershing (aka T26E4-1) was equipped with a new long-barreled T15E1 90mm gun that was designed to out-perform the German high-velocity 88mm on the King Tiger. This new U.S. gun had successfully penetrated 8.5 inches of armor at 1,000 yards at 30 degrees. Even more remarkable, it had penetrated 13 inches of armor at 100 yards. The special 90mm ammunition had produced a muzzle velocity of 3,850 feet per second, or some 600 feet per second faster than the 88mm of the King Tiger. But in testing, the new 90mm also proved to have amazing range and accuracy.


The "Super Pershing" T26E4-1 (originally designated T26E1-1) is shown at Aberdeen Proving Ground, Maryland, in early 1945, shortly before being shipped to the 3rd Armored Division inside Germany via England. Additional armor plating and other modifications were made in Germany.


Army ordinance technicians (in the U.S. and Europe) had been anxious about getting the new tank into combat, hoping to match it against a King Tiger. But by April, 1945, German armor west of Berlin had dramatically thinned out, not to mention an extreme shortage of fuel, and the odds of spotting the monster German tank were slim. But in Dessau on April 21, "luck" would befall the Super Pershing crew commanded by SSgt Joe Maduri, a veteran 3AD tanker in his tenth straight month of combat.

The 3AD had begun a four-pronged attack on the city, which was heavily defended. Division armor were finally able to enter the city slowly after numerous concrete tank barriers were destroyed. With 3AD tanks fanning out, and 36th Infantry riflemen following, the Super Pershing reached an intersection and began to round a corner to its right. Unknown to its crew, a King Tiger had apparently been waiting in ambush at a distance of two blocks or roughly 600 yards away, and in the same direction that the Americans were turning into.


German King Tiger, or Tiger II.


At this distance, easily within its capability, the Tiger fired at the Super Pershing. But its infamous high-velocity 88mm shell, of the type that had destroyed so many American tanks and vehicles during the war, went high and was not even close. Gunner Cpl John "Jack" Irwin, only 18 years old, responded almost instantly with a round that struck the Tiger's huge angled glasis, or front plate. But the shot, a non-armor-piercing high explosive (HE) shell, had no effect. Ricocheting off the armor, it shot skyward and exploded harmlessly. The Super Pershing had been loaded with an HE only because Irwin had been expecting urban targets, such as buildings, personnel, and light anti-tank guns. "AP!", he shouted to his loader "Pete," which meant an armor-piercing shell would be next.

Maduri and crew then felt a concussion or thud on the turret. It was never known if this shot came from the Tiger, or from some other anti-tank weapon. In any case, no serious damage was done - probably a lucky glancing impact. In the next instant, Irwin aimed and fired a second time, just as the royal monster was moving forward and raising up over a pile of rubble. The 90mm AP round penetrated the Tiger's underbelly, apparently striking the ammo well and resulting in a tremendous explosion that blew its turret loose. With near certainty, the entire crew was killed.


3AD soldiers above in 1945: Staff Sgt. Joseph Maduri of Massachusetts, commander of the Super Pershing, is shown in portrait at right and in middle of group photo. Corporal John P. Irwin of Pennsylvania, the tank's gunner, is at right in the group. Crewman at far left is believed to be "Pete" (last name not yet known). Not in the photo are the two remaining crewmen, whose names are not yet known (Photos from the Maduri family)


But there was no time to examine their "trophy." A battle was raging, and the Super Pershing continued down the street, passing the lifeless and burning King Tiger. Tough fighting still lay ahead, as German bazooka, Panzerfaust, and machine-gun fire came from windows and doorways.



The encounter with the King Tiger had been "short and sweet," lasting less than twenty seconds. It may not have been the titanic "slug fest" that could have occurred on an open field, but it was an overwhelming victory for the quick-reacting Super Pershing crew. The battle for Dessau would end completely on the following day, but not without the Super Pershing destroying another German heavy tank (believed to be a 50-ton Panther Mark V) with two shots. The first disabling its drive sprocket, and the second round completely penetrating the tank's side armor. That apparently set off an internal blast, again probably from stored ammo. And, still in Dessau, that was followed by Maduri and crew forcing the commander of a German medium tank to surrender without firing a shot. For the German crew, out of ammo for their main gun, the intimidating "look" of that long-barrel 90mm gun that must have destroyed any remaining will to fight or flee.



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To: SAMWolf

Yes.
And feared I hear.


61 posted on 12/09/2004 4:11:34 PM PST by Darksheare (Hey! This troll tastes like Arugala! I HATE arugala!)
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To: Professional Engineer; E.G.C.; w_over_w; bentfeather; colorado tanker; All

We are soooo swamped. The plan is to open in the morning.

w_over_w, we just missed you, the one time we both left the store and you called. :-(

With so little time left we both had errands to run. I'm back now Sam is still running.

We appreciate everyone's support during this stressful yet happy time for us.

We love all you guys!


62 posted on 12/09/2004 4:11:56 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf

YAY!! Opening tomorrow!! WOO HOO!!

I am so proud of you two!Best Wishes to you and Sam.


63 posted on 12/09/2004 4:14:19 PM PST by Soaring Feather (It's coming soon! Watch for it!)
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To: PAR35

Post 39 on that thread will take you through April. I've been too busy to update it beyond that. I may have it updated through July of this year on my home computer. An index would be wonderful. I've often thought about it but the task of just preparing the threads is time consuming. I do have all of them saved at home.

I'll look asap at my list at home and let you know how many links I have saved.


64 posted on 12/09/2004 4:17:24 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it

Thanks. Even just cutting and pasting, with minimal formatting, is a slow process. I thought I'd do about 3 months or so and then post it for comments and feedback as to how I was setting it up.


65 posted on 12/09/2004 4:41:36 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Professional Engineer; All


66 posted on 12/09/2004 6:56:08 PM PST by Soaring Feather (It's coming soon! Watch for it!)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf
Evening Grace Snip & Sam~

Happy "Treadhead Tu . . .", wait a minute, it's Thursday. Oh I get it, you're trying to sneak another Tank history story under the radar. Slick! One of the difficulties I had with today's foxhole was all the time I'm reading about this encounter my mind kept flashing back to the movie "Kelly's Heroes".

But I took aim and fired again, and this time the shell penetrated the thin armor on the Tiger's exposed underbelly as it attempted to climb over some rubble.

"The only way to destroy a Tiger Tank is to shoot it in the Ass"


67 posted on 12/09/2004 7:47:19 PM PST by w_over_w (Atheism is a non-prophet organization)
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To: snippy_about_it
w_over_w, we just missed you, the one time we both left the store and you called. :-(

Me too . . . I'll radio you in the AM tomorrow. :^D

68 posted on 12/09/2004 7:49:29 PM PST by w_over_w (Atheism is a non-prophet organization)
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To: Iris7

I read somewhere that the military is always fighting the previous war when a new one is started.


69 posted on 12/09/2004 8:48:23 PM PST by SAMWolf (I was on a roll, 'till I slipped on the butter.)
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To: bentfeather

Looks like a late night to have everything ready for tomorrow. And then we turn into evil capitalists, full time.:-)


70 posted on 12/09/2004 8:50:25 PM PST by SAMWolf (I was on a roll, 'till I slipped on the butter.)
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To: bentfeather

LOL!


71 posted on 12/09/2004 8:51:04 PM PST by SAMWolf (I was on a roll, 'till I slipped on the butter.)
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To: SAMWolf

Good Grief! Middle of the day and you've got time to check in here? Meanwhile (no doubt) snippy is hard at work.
< /troublemaker >


72 posted on 12/09/2004 8:52:23 PM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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To: w_over_w
Oh I get it, you're trying to sneak another Tank history story under the radar

Pretty sneaky, huh? "Kelly's heroes" is one of my favorite movies.

73 posted on 12/09/2004 8:52:38 PM PST by SAMWolf (I was on a roll, 'till I slipped on the butter.)
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To: Valin
Middle of the day and you've got time to check in here?

;-) A man has to do what a man has to do.

74 posted on 12/09/2004 8:53:47 PM PST by SAMWolf (I was on a roll, 'till I slipped on the butter.)
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To: w_over_w

"WOOF WOOF! That's my other dog impression"
Oddball


75 posted on 12/09/2004 8:56:11 PM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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To: PAR35

Good find
bookmarked.


76 posted on 12/09/2004 8:59:46 PM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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To: SAMWolf

Well you are a skilled professional.


77 posted on 12/09/2004 9:04:59 PM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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To: Valin
WOOF WOOF! That's my other dog impression"

Not bad . . . for a moment there I thought I was pinged by Donald Sutherland himself.

78 posted on 12/09/2004 9:18:48 PM PST by w_over_w (Atheism is a non-prophet organization)
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To: Valin

LOL! Actually I'm only Semi-Pro. ;-)


79 posted on 12/09/2004 9:27:57 PM PST by SAMWolf (I was on a roll, 'till I slipped on the butter.)
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To: w_over_w; Valin
"Sixty foot of bridge I can pick up almost anywhere."
Oddball
80 posted on 12/09/2004 9:30:09 PM PST by SAMWolf (I was on a roll, 'till I slipped on the butter.)
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