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The FReeper Foxhole's TreadHead Tuesday - Tankettes Part III (Russian) - Nov. 23rd, 2004
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Posted on 11/23/2004 12:06:58 AM PST by SAMWolf



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The T-27 Tankette




One of the first tankettes was developed by Englishman Major J. Martel. In his own repair shop, he constructed his tankette from spare parts and elements of common cars. It was a single-seat vehicle with very light armor protection, and was armed with one machine-gun. In trials, the tankette achieved a speed of 24 km/h.

Almost simultaneously, a small single-seat tankette was developed by another Englishman, engineer J. Carden, in which the driver was in a prone position. The first tankettes were full of various defects and imperfections and none of them were put into mass production.


The original British Mk.IV Carden-Lyod armed with the 7.92mm Vickers


Taking into account the defects of the first tankettes, engineers started working on two-seater vehicles, which were ready by 1927. The two-seater variant was chosen because engineers doubted that one person would be able to act as driver, machine-gunner, and observer simultaneously.

The most successful tankette was a two-seater that went through numerous modifications and improvements and was finally accepted for service in 1929 under the "Mk IV Carden-Loyd" designation. It was manufactured by Vickers-Armstrong. The tankette was quite popular, and it was sold to sixteen countries all over the world, including Poland, Italy, Czechoslovakia, France, Japan, Canada, Belgium and Egypt.


The MK.IV Carden-Lyod


By the mid 1920's, France paid little attention to the development of light tankettes. However, the obvious success of the English attracted their attention and compelled French engineers to start their own work on tankettes. In 1929, they developed the single-seated tankette called the "Sabat." This vehicle was intended to be transported by a truck, and in battle it ran on its tracks. The tankette was operated by a driver who was in the prone position. During a non-combat situation, the driver could operate the tankette in a sitting posture. France received a license to manufacture the Carden-Loyd, and this defined the future development of French tankettes. For example, in 1933, the "supply tank" Renault UE was developed, and later it was converted to a common tankette.


The Italian C.V.29 (former Carden-Loyd) armed with the 6.5-mm Fiat Mod.14 machine-gun.


Italy received a license for the Mk IV as well, and then manufactured it under the designation C.V.29 where the "29" stood for the year it was accepted for service. These vehicles were used quite intensively during the Spanish Civil War. Poland developed its own reconnaissance tank TK-3 (1931) and then the TKS (1934) which were copied from the original Carden-Loyd. The Czech developed and manufactured the MU-4 tankette.

In Russia, the very first tankette project was independently developed in 1919 by the Russian engineer I. Maksimov. The tankette was named "Sh'itonoska" which meant "Shield Carrier." The vehicle was armed with one machine-gun and was operated by a single crewman who was in the prone position.


The T-23 experimental tankette.


By the end of the 1920's, new rules and regulations for the Red Army were introduced. The regulations defined the future development of the domestic armored fighting vehicles, and in particular they stipulated the "development and manufacture of a small reconnaissance tank" that was intended for co-operation with the MS-1 tanks as well as for reconnaissance and for communication purposes.

In the period of 1927 to 1930, the Design Bureau of the VOAO ("Vsesouznoe Orudijno-Arsenal'noe Ob'edinenie" - "All-Union Arsenal Association") designed several tankettes based on the chassis of the T-16 light tank: the T-17, the T-21 (only a paper project), the T-23, and the T-25 (paper project). The T-23 was designed in two variants: one with a turret, and the other turretless. The T-25 was a modernized variant of the T-17 tankette.


The K.Sirken's SP Gun based on the T-27. This variant armed with the 37-mm Hochkiss and the DT TMG. 1931


All of these vehicles were quite good for the time, although they had many flaws. These defects would have taken a lot of time to correct, and because of this, the idea came up to buy a license for the Carden-Loyd Mk IV. In 1930, the Soviet Union bought the first batch of 26 original Carden-Loyd tankettes from Britain. In the Soviet Union, these vehicles were re-named the 25-V (some archive documents name them the K-25). Also, the Soviet Union bought a license to mass produce these vehicles.


The front view of the K.Sirken's SP Gun. 1931


According to the production plan, in 1930 to 1931, 290 tankettes had to be manufactured, and after that 400 tankettes per year. The manufacture was set up in the Autozavod #2 VATO in Moscow (in 1932, this factory was renamed to Factory #37).


Another variant of the K.Sirken's SP Gun. 1931


iHowever, Soviet engineers weren't fully satisfied with the original Carden-Loyd tankette and before its mass production they significantly modernised it (the Chief Engineer was N. Kozyrev, and the Lead Engineer was K. Sirken). The hull's dimensions were increased, the running gear was improved, and the machine-gun mount was modified for the installation of a DT machine-gun. Some other improvements were made to take into account the USSR's geographic and climatic conditions and the Russian mindset.

Due to the modernisation, the new tankette was significantly changed from the British original, and that is why on February 13, 1931, it was accepted for service under the "T-27" designation. The T-27 was manufactured simultaneously in two factories: the Bolshevik factory in Leningrad, and the newly-built automobile factory in Nizhnij Novgorod (later it was named GAZ).


T-27 in order of the Kalinovsky Brigade. Summer 1933.


The hull of the T-27 was assembled of rolled-armor plates which were fastened by rivets and partially welded. On the roof there were two squared hatches. All joints of the armor plates were pressurised by canvas gaskets to increase the fording depth of the T-27. The tankette was armed with one 7.62 mm DT Machine-Gun Model 1929. The T-27 didn't have any internal and external communication devices, as communication between vehicles was supposed to be conducted through signal flags, which was typical for Soviet tanks of that time.

The vehicle was powered by the GAZ-AA water-cooled four-cylinder gasoline engine (copied from the Ford-AA) rated at 40 h.p at 220 rpm. The crew consisted of two men: the commander/machine-gunner and the driver.

The tankette was used for reconnaissance by mechanized forces of the Red Army. Until the end of 1932, 65 tankette battalions were formed, with about 50 tankettes per battalion. In the future, the number of those battalions was restricted to 23.


The summary output of the T-27.


At the inception of the Red Army's mechanised forces, the T-27 tankettes played a very important role, but later on, this role was reduced due to the development of more modern vehicles. By January 1, 1937, 2,547 T-27s remained in service.

In the beginning of the 1930's, T-27s were successfully used in Central Asia (in the Kara Kum Desert in particular) to combat the Basmach (the name for any anti-Bolshevik Asiatic natives). By the end of the 1930's, the T-27 was removed from Red Army front-line service, and thereafter used for training purposes. In addition, some tankettes were sent to the OSOAVIAKhIM (The Association for Assistance of Defense, Aircraft and Chemical Development). After some improvements, T-27s were used for towing battalion field guns (37-mm and 45-mm calibres).

By January 1, 1941, 2,157 T-27 tankettes remained in service, and some of them took part in the initial stages of the Great Patriotic War. The last mentioned combat use of T-27s was during the Battle for Moscow (winter 1941-42): on December 1, 1941, some T-27 tankettes supported the attack of the 71st Independent Marine Brigade in the Yakhroma area.


T-27s on the military parade in Moscow.


The army found that the T-27 was very simple and undemanding in operation. However, due to its narrow tracks, the tankette wasn't effective in swamps and snowy terrain. The dimensions of the T-27 were so small that only shorter men could get in it. Moreover, experience showed that the lack of a traversing turret and an ability to swim across rivers was a hinderance. Later, these features were realised in the T-37 and the T-38 light tanks.

The Soviets tried to enlarge the tactical abilities of the T-27. For example, in 1933, a small batch of self-propelled 37-mm Hochkiss guns was manufactured by the Bolshevik factory in Leningrad. These SP guns were based on the chassis of the T-27. Some of those vehicles were additionally armed with the DT machine-gun. Because the vehicle was very small, the ammunition load was located separately in the tracked trailer that was towed behind the vehicle.

In 1932, one T-27 was rearmed with a flamethrower (the flamethrower had a range of 25 metres). This vehicle was tested in 1932, and in 1935 a batch of 164 flamethrower tankettes was produced. Combat records for these vehicles are not yet available.


The SP-Gun with the 76-mm Gun KT-27


In 1933 to 1934, the Special Design Bureau of the Krasniy Putilovetz factory designed a self-propelled gun in which the 76.2 mm KT gun was mounted on the T-27's chassis. The gun was carried by one vehicle, and the crew and ammunition were transported in a second vehicle. The project and five experimental vehicles were intended for support of Red Army motorised troops.

The gun was either mounted in the open or was protected by an armored shield (like common field guns). However, the chassis was overloaded, and the new vehicle was unable to run off-road because its engine quickly overheated. Further work was cancelled.


The T-27 armed with the Kurchevsky's 76-mm recoilless gun


In 1933, a self-propelled gun armed with Kurchevsky's 76-mm recoilless gun was developed. The vehicle successfully passed all tests on the proving ground and was sent to the army's trials which it failed because of the poor ballistics of the gun. The gun was also unstable when it fired and it was unsafe to operate.

Grokhovsky's Design Bureau also developed a tankette armed with two unguided missiles. These missiles were located on both sides of the hull.

Several T-27s were pressurised and supplied with special equipment for underwater river crossings.


The T-27 being transported by the TB-3 bomber


In March of 1930, ordered by M. N. Tukhachevsky, the first motorised airborne forces were formed. Initially, the troops were equipped with MS-1 light tanks, but later on they were replaced with T-27 tankettes. The troops consisted of four battalions. By 1933, each battalion included one company of T-27 tankettes.

In 1935, T-27's were transported by TB-1 and TB-3 bombers during military manoeuvers. The tankettes were suspended under the planes by a special mechanism developed by engineer A. F. Kravtzev.



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On This Day In History


Birthdates which occurred on November 23:
0912 Otto I (the Great) German king, Holy Roman emperor (962-73)
1221 Alfonso X (the Wise) king of Castile & Leon (1252)
1553 Prospero Alpini Italy, botanist/physician (De Medocoma Aegyptorum)
1749 Edward Rutledge (Gov-SC) signed Declaration of Independence
1804 Franklin Pierce 14th President (1853-1857)
1837 Javan der Waals Holland, physicist (Cont of Liquid & Gaseous States)
1859 Billy the Kid [William H Bonney], criminal
1860 Karl Branting Sweden, statesman/diplomat (Nobel Peace Prize 1921)
1883 Jose Clemente Orozco Mexico, painter (Epic of Culture in New World)
1887 Boris Karloff [William H Pratt], Dulwich England, actor (Frankenstein)
1888 Harpo Marx [Adolph] NYC, actor/comedian (Marx brothers)
1894 Ture Persson Sweden, sprinter (Olympic-silver-1912)
1903 Victor Jory actor (Gone with the Wind, Papillon, Dodge City)
1915 John Dehner Staten Is NY, actor (Big Hawaii, Bare Essence)
1917 George O'Hanlon Brooklyn NY, actor (Calvin-Life of Riley, George Jetson)
1917 Michael Gough Malaya, actor (Search for the Nile)
1920 Paul Celan Romanian poet (Collected Prose)
1926 Don Gordon Los Angeles CA, actor (Prentiss-Lucan)
1928 Jerry Bock US, Broadway composer (Fiddler on the Roof)
1930 Robert Easton Milwaukee, actor (Someone Up There Likes Me)
1931 Yevgeni Grischin USSR, 500m/1500m speed skater (Oly-gold-1956, 60)
1933 Hayes Jenkins US, figure skater (Olympic-gold-1956)
1933 Krzysztof Penderecki Debica Poland, composer (Hiroshima Threnody)
1935 Vladislav N Volkov cosmonaut (Soyuz 7, 11)
1938 Oscar Robertson NBA guard (Cin, Milwaukee, Olympic-gold-1960)
1939 Susan Anspach NYC, actress (Grace-Yellow Rose, Blume in Love)
1940 Gosta Pettersson Sweden, cyclist (Olympic-silver-1968)
1943 Andrew Goodman civil rights worker, murdered in 1964
1945 Steve Landesberg Bronx NY, comedian/actor (Barney Miller)
1951 David Rappaport London England, 3'11" actor (Wizard, Time Bandits)
1956 Shane Gould Australia, 200m/400m freestyle swimmer (Oly-gold-1972)
1958 David Wallace Miami, actor (General Hospital, Babysitter, Humongus)
1959 Maxwell Caulfield Derbyshire England, actor (Miles-The Colbys)



Deaths which occurred on November 23:
0615 Columbanus, Irish explorer/monastery founder/poet/saint (Poenitentiale), dies (aka St. Columba)
1457 Ladislaus V (posthumus), king of Hungary/Bohemia, dies at 17
1499 Perkin Warbeck, Flemish sailor, hanged
1902 Walter Reed, US bacteriologist (Yellow Fever), dies
1910 Hawley H Crippen, doctor/murderer, hanged
1914 Elbrige Gerry VP (of Gerrymander fame), dies at 70
1962 Gloria Gordon actress (My Friend Irma), dies at 81
1972 Marie Wilson actress (My Friend Irma), dies at 56
1973 Paul Newlan actor (Capt Grey-M Squad)
1974 Cornelius Ryan, war reporter/historian (Bridge too Far), dies at 54
1979 Merle Oberon actress (Assignment Foreign Legion), dies at 68
1982 Rev Grady Nutt actor (Hee Haw), dies at 47
1990 Bo Diaz catcher, crushed to death by a satellite dish, at 37
1990 Roald Dahl British short story writer, dies at 74
1991 Freddie Mercury lead singer of Queen, dies of aids at 46
1991 Klaus Kin ski, actor (Android, Nosferatu, Little Drummer Girl), dies at 65
1992 Ray Acuff, country singer who rode the "Wabash Cannonball" to fame and fortune, died of congestive heart failure at age 89.


Reported: MISSING in ACTION

1968 CUTHBERT BRADLEY G.---FORT MADISON IA.
[REMAINS RETURNED 12/20/91]
1968 RUHLING MARK J.---PITTSBURGH PA.
[03/14/73 RELEASED BY DRV, ALIVE IN 98]
1969 JONES GRAYLAND...INDIANAPOLIS IN.
1971 ALTUS ROBERT W.---SHERIDAN OR.
1971 PHELPS WILLIAM---CORTLAND NY.

POW / MIA Data & Bios supplied by
the P.O.W. NETWORK. Skidmore, MO. USA.


On this day...
1165 Pope Alexander III returns from exile to Rome
1584 English parliament expells the Jesuits
1765 People of Frederick County MD refuse to pay England's Stamp tax
1785 John Hancock is elected president of the Continental Congress for the second time
1832 French take Antwerp in liberation of Belgium
1835 Henry Burden patents Horseshoe manufacturing machine, Troy, NY
1848 Female Medical Educational Society founded in Boston
1852 Just past midnight, a sharp jolt causes Lake Merced to drop 30' (9m)
1863 Battle of Chattanooga begins
1863 Patent granted for a process of making color photographs
1868 Louis Ducos du Hauron patents trichrome color photo process
1876 Columbia, Harvard & Princeton form Intercollegiate Football Association
1887 Notre Dame loses its 1st football game 8-0 to Michigan
1899 1st jukebox (Palais Royal Hotel, San Francisco)
1903 Enrico Caruso US debut (Metropolitan Opera House, NY) in "Rigoletto"
1904 3rd Olympic games close in St Louis
1905 Henry Watson Furness, an Indiana physician, named minister of Haiti
1909 Wright Brothers forms million dollar corp to manufacture airplanes
1909 18.2 cm (7.17") of rainfall, Rattlesnake Creek, Idaho (state record)
1921 Pres Harding signs Willis Campell Act (anti-beer bill) forbidding doctors from prescribing beer or liquor for medicinal purposes
1930 NY Giant Hap Moran runs 91 yards for a TD from a scrimmage
1936 1st issue of Life, picture magazine created by Henry R Luce
1942 Coast Guard Woman's Auxiliary (SPARS) authorized
1942 Steward Poon Lim set adrift for 133 days after his boat was torpedoed
1943 US forces seized control of Tarawa & Makin from Japanese
1947 Wash Redskin Sammy Baugh passes for 6 touchdowns vs Chi Cards (45-21)
1948 Lens to provide zoom effects patented-FG Back
1955 British transfer Cocos (Keeling) Is in Indian Ocean to Australia
1959 "Fiorello!" premiers on Broadway
1960 Tiros 2, a weather satellite is launched
1963 Horatio Alger Society founded
1963 JFK's body, lay in repose in East Room of White House
1964 Beatles release "I Feel Fine" & "She's a Woman"
1968 Milwaukee Bucks make their 1st NBA trade, giving Bob Love & Bob Weiss to Chicago Bulls for Flynn Robinson
1971 China People's Republic seated in UN Security Council
1975 Bob Thomas of Chicago Bears kicks 55-yard field goal
1977 European weather satellite Meteosat 1 launched from Cape Canaveral
1980 4,800 die in series of earthquakes that devastated southern Italy
1982 NY Islanders & Minnesota North Stars play to an 8-8 tie
1985 58 die as Egyptian commandos storm hijacked Egyptair jet in Malta
1985 Retired CIA analyst Larry Wu-tai Chin, arrested of spying for China
1988 South Africa: Botha reprieves Sharpeville Six
1988 Wayne Gretzky scores his 600th NHL goal
1989 Pilots Union give up sympathy strike against Eastern Airlines
1991 Evander Hollyfield retains HW boxing title, KOs Bert Cooper in 7
1992 The United States lowered its flag over the last American base in the Philippines, ending nearly a century of military presence in its former colony.
2000 In a setback for Al Gore, the Florida Supreme Court refused to order Miami-Dade county officials to resume hand-counting election-day ballots. Meanwhile, Gore's lawyers argued in a brief filed with the U.S. Supreme Court that the high court should stay out of the Florida election controversy.



Holidays
Note: Some Holidays are only applicable on a given "day of the week"

Japan : Labor Day/Thanksgiving
Maryland : Repudiation Day (1765)
Bern Switzerland : Onion Market Day-autumn festival
US : Thanksgiving (Thursday)
US : Adoption Week
Diabetic Eye Disease Month


Religious Observances
RC : Solemnity of Christ the King
RC, Ang, Luth : Memorial of St Clement I, 4th pope (c 88-97) (opt)
RC : Memorial of St Columban, Irish monk, abbot (opt)


Religious History
1654 French mathematician Blaise Pascal, 31, underwent a profound religious conversion. He thereupon abandoned his study of science, having realized that "the Christian religion obliges us to live only for God, and to have no other aim than him."
1729 German_born John Philip Boehm, 46, was formally ordained a pastor of the Dutch Reformed Church. Boehm had previously come to America in 1720, where he began organizing religious services among German Reformed immigrants in Pennsylvania.
1742 English revivalist George Whitefield wrote in a letter: 'Two things I would earnestly recommend to your constant study: the book of God, and your own heart. These two, well understood, will make you an able minister of the New Testament.'
1947 E. L. Sukenik of Jerusalem's Hebrew University first received word of the existence of the Dead Sea Scrolls. The documents, dating between 200 BC and AD 70, had been accidentally discovered the previous winter (1946_47) by two Bedouin shepherds in the vicinity of Qumran.
1970 Pope Paul VI issued a decree barring cardinals over the age of 80 from voting for a new pope.

Source: William D. Blake. ALMANAC OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH. Minneapolis: Bethany House, 1987.


Thought for the day :
"The great thing in this world is not so much where we are, but in what direction we are moving."


Excuses for Being Late for Work...
It was Senator Kennedy's turn to drive today, so I've spent the last hour swimming.


Things I learned from children...
The fire department in San Jose has at least a 5-minute
response time.


Dictionary of the Absurd...
junket
1. A small piece of rubbish
2. What to do with a 386 computer


Man's Answers to Every Question a Woman ever asks
WHY DO MEN ALWAYS HAVE TO OGLE AT OTHER WOMEN?
Again, this is a testosterone thing. Do you honestly think that all the testosterone just fell out of our bodies the moment we met you? Besides, women do it as well. Women are just much better at not getting caught. I'm fairly certain it's some sort of photographic memory deal. Women take one quick look and memorise it for later reference. Since men lack this ability, we try to burn it into our memory by staring as much as we can.


21 posted on 11/23/2004 7:56:06 AM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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bmp


23 posted on 11/23/2004 8:29:43 AM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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Good Morning, Foxhole. Great Mini-Tread Thread.

24 posted on 11/23/2004 8:31:33 AM PST by tomball
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1286762/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1286558/posts?page=30



25 posted on 11/23/2004 9:46:56 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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I'm a Treadhead, she's a Treadhead, wouldn't you like to be a Treadhead too!


26 posted on 11/23/2004 10:02:38 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Join the Army. Travel to far away lands. Meet exotic people. And kill them.)
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To: bentfeather

Hi miss Feather


27 posted on 11/23/2004 10:03:02 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Join the Army. Travel to far away lands. Meet exotic people. And kill them.)
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November Sierra Sierra

ROFL

28 posted on 11/23/2004 10:04:02 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Join the Army. Travel to far away lands. Meet exotic people. And kill them.)
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junket

2. What to do with a 386 computer

You've been to my radio room, haven't you?

29 posted on 11/23/2004 10:13:33 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Join the Army. Travel to far away lands. Meet exotic people. And kill them.)
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Polish and Ukrainian cities today. Poland supports free Independent Ukraine!

Bless you and Poland.

30 posted on 11/23/2004 10:14:48 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Join the Army. Travel to far away lands. Meet exotic people. And kill them.)
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Hi Matt. From what I've read it sounds like the Russians and their allies are trying to steal the Ukrainian election.


33 posted on 11/23/2004 11:52:12 AM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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Happy Treadhead Tuesday to all.

Dubya re-elected and SKerry defeated, Li'l Tommy Daschle gone, Fallujah stormed with minimal loss of American lives - and now Dan Rather announces his retirement. This could be a Thanksgiving to remember!

34 posted on 11/23/2004 11:59:43 AM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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I've felt for some time that Putin's real agenda is to reclaim Ukraine and Belorus and reestablish a Russian empire.

Is there some chance Western Ukraine might break away rather than go back to Russian domination?

36 posted on 11/23/2004 12:15:12 PM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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I will keep Ukraine in my prayers.
38 posted on 11/23/2004 1:20:36 PM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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Well I'll be. Good to see you tomball.


39 posted on 11/23/2004 1:33:05 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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Hi alfa6.


40 posted on 11/23/2004 1:33:46 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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