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Posted on 10/30/2004 12:06:05 AM PDT by snippy_about_it
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 They were killed at Franklin, all right, but it's not true that all five were laid out on the same porch. by Col. Campbell H. Brown General John B. Hood on November 30, 1864, launched one of his typically ill-considered attacks on the Federal entrenched position at Franklin, Tennessee. Stanley Horn writes: "...in the last two hours of the day... the combat was waged with a maniacal desperation witnessed on no other field of the war." The Confederates suffered a staggering loss--four times as great as that of Pickett at Gettysburg. In no other battle were so many general officers put out of action: for the Confederates, twelve, of whom five were killed outright and one mortally wounded. Historians have claimed that after the battle the bodies of Major General Patrick R. Cleburne and Brigadier Generals John Adams, states Rights Gist, Hiram B. Granbury, and Otho F. Strahl were brought in from the bloody field and laid out side by side on the small porch of "Carnton," ancestral McGavock home.  Major General Patrick Ronayne Cleburne John R. Peacock of High Point, North Carolina, by sound reasoning and the use of a hitherto unpublished source, now concludes that this widely accepted story is not altogether correct. It is true that there were five bodies on Mrs. John McGavock's porch, and three of them were generals: Cleburne, Granbury, and Strahl. The others were Colonel R. B. Young, General Granbury's chief of staff, and Lieutenant John H. Marsh, aide to General Strahl. The five bodies were removed, probably on 1 or 2 December, to Columbia and a day later were interred in Rose Hill Cemetery.  Brigadier General John Adams Major General Lucius J. Polk, former adjutant general of Tennessee, was outraged when he heard that the five heroes had been buried in that portion of the cemetery set aside as a potters' field for the interment of criminals and indigents. With the aid of Chaplain Charles t. Quintard he had the five officers disinterred and moved to the cemetery of St. John's Church near his home at Ashwood. Later three were again moved to cemeteries at their homes; but the bodies of Young and Marsh still rest at St. John's. Brigadier General Arthur H. Manigault, also a casualty of Franklin, was likewise carried to Polk's home, Hamilton Place, but he survived.  Brigadier General States Rights Gist Brigadier General John Adams, a native of Nashville, had married a girl at Pulaski. Consequently when he fell at Franklin the sorrowing members of his brigade took him in a wagon to Pulaski, where he was buried on December 1. As Mr. Peacock points out, there was scarcely time for a stopover on McGavock's porch en route. Thomas R. Markham, chaplain of Featherston's brigade, averred, however, that Adams, who was killed at the moment of crossing the Federal barricade, was picked up in an ambulance and taken to the McGavock home.  Brigadier General Hiram B. Granbury Wiley Howard, body servant to General Gist, gave an account to a biographer of the Gist family in which he says that he searched the field for the body of the general, who he had been told had fallen. He found Gist, who had died at 8:30 p.m. at the brigade field hospital, which had been set up near the home of Judge White (still standing at 724 Fair Street in Franklin). With the help of the brigade surgeon he secured a cedar box as a coffin, which he loaded into an ambulance. He drove to Mrs. White's front door and begged permission to bury the general in the White family cemetery. Mrs. White had the body brought into her parlor, and summoned a minister who held a funeral attended by officers and men from Georgia and South Carolina troops of Gist's brigade. The remains were then buried in the family cemetery. As the army passed back through Franklin after its defeat at Nashville, Wiley or some member of Gist's staff disinterred the body and shipped it to Columbia, South Carolina, where it was buried under a big cedar tree (which I remember) in the family plot in Trinity Churchyard, near the State House.  Brigadier General Otho F. Strahl Thus, although in war the bodies of the fallen usually receive only temporary field burial and for various reasons become "unknown" dead, in this case the dead generals did receive proper care, and their resting places are known today.       |
Morning Feather.
LOL! Snippy says that is the "Quote of the day!".
Ugh! Arrival in Chicago involved an ILS Circle-to-land approach to minimums. (That might not mean anything to you, I don't know, it means it's challenging) All day Thursday I had to sit in a meeting that didn't involve me. We were scheduled to depart Chicago at 10:30 Friday, the boss shows up at 11:45. IFR all the way with another ILS approach into St. Paul (no lunch). Other than that, great!
Fliers do use a lot of acronyms, don't they?
Most famous flag update.
After removing the 1.7 million stitches that held the flag to the linen backing, the conservators had an unobstructed view of the flag's surface for the first time in 85 years. They documented its current condition, including fiber deterioration and stains, using a camera attached to a microscope. Information obtained during this phase will help project curators and conservators decide on future steps in the conservation treatment.
One of the further reading links in my Flag Day thread had instructions for making your own US flag. I'm going to take those and tweak them slightly, to get a 15 star, 15 stripe 1812 flag.
Not famliar with that particular one. Some of those online Flight Sims get real hardcore "pilots", If he's into it he should enjoy it.
LOL!
He was too loyal to men who should have been replaced, sort of like Lincoln early in the war. ;-)
That won't stop me from trying. ;-)
Visiting those sites sure can get to you. Very sobering experiences
I have a vague idea, I know what ILS is and "Circle to Land" is, not sure how the combination works.
Did you land at Midway, O'Hare or one of the outlying airports?
Morning PE.
I couldn't even think about working on something like that. No patience at all.
We gonna get to see your Star Spangled Banner when it's done?
Cool beans.
It would have been better if I had spelled "knew" correctly. ....sigh....
Multitasking has its downside.
Did you land at Midway, O'Hare or one of the outlying airports?
If the wind is blowing the wrong way you use the ILS to get down below the overcast, but then you have to keep the runway in sight and fly around to land the way you came from. I landed at Palwaukee - north of downtown.
I've been reading John Adams by David McCullough. This an excerpt from a letter sent by John Adams to his son, John Quincy Adams:
Public business, my son, must always be done by somebody. It will be done by somebody or other. If wise men decline it, others will not; if honest men refuse it, others will not. A young man should weigh well his plans. Integrity should be preserved in all events, as essential to his happiness, through every stage of his existence. His first maxim should be to place his honor out of reach of all men. In order to do this he must make it a rule never to become dependent on public employments for subsistence. Let him have a trade, a profession, a farm, a shop, something where he can honestly live, and then he may engage in public affairs, if invited, upon independent principles. My advice to my children is to maintain an independent character.
This quote says a huge mouthful. I can think of very few public servants that come close to this standard.
Hi miss Feather
Thanks for the link. Still have compost blowing around Middle Earth?
He was a Fighter, not a Lover. Whew, good thing.
Hiya Sam. Certainly
Howdy ma'am
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