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The FReeper Foxhole Revisits Case White - The Invasion of Poland (9/1/1939) - Sept. 3rd, 2004
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Posted on 09/02/2004 10:59:14 PM PDT by snippy_about_it



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Invasion of Poland
World War Two in Europe Begins


On September 1st, 1939, 1.8 million German troops invaded Poland on three fronts; East Prussia in the north, Germany in the west and Slovakia in the south. They had 2600 tanks against the Polish 180, and over 2000 aircraft against the Polish 420. Their "Blitzkrieg" tactics, coupled with their bombing of defenseless towns and refugees, had never been seen before and, at first, caught the Poles off-guard. By September 14th. Warsaw was surrounded. At this stage the poles reacted, holding off the Germans at Kutno and regrouping behind the Wisla (Vistula) and Bzura rivers. Although Britain and france declared war on September 3rd. the Poles received no help - yet it had been agreed that the Poles should fight a defensive campaign for only 2 weeks during which time the Allies could get their forces together and attack from the west.



There are many "myths" that surround the September Campaign; the fictional Polish cavalry charges against German tanks (actually reported by the Italian press and used as propaganda by the Germans), the alleged destruction of the Polish Air Force on the ground, or claims that Polish Armour failed to achieve any success against the invaders. In reality, and despite the fact that Poland was only just beginning to modernise her armed forces and had been forced (by Britain and france) to delay mobilisation (which they claimed might be interpreted as aggressive behavior) so that, at the time of invasion, only about one-third of her total potential manpower was mobilised, Polish forces ensured that the September campaign was no "walk-over".

The Wehrmacht had so under-rated Polish anti-tank capabilities (the Polish-designed anti-tank gun was one of the best in the world at that time) that they had gone into action with white "balkankreuz", or crosses, prominently displayed in eight locations; these crosses made excellent aiming points for Polish gun-sights and forced the Germans to radically rethink their national insignia, initially overpainting them in yellow and then, for their later campaigns, adopting the modified "balkankreuz" similar to that used by the Luftwaffe. The recently-designed 7TP "czolg lekki", or light tank, the first in the world to be designed with a diesel engine, proved to be superior to German tanks of the same class (the PzKpfw I and II) inflicting serious damage to the German forces, limited only by the fact that they were not used in concentrated groups. They were absorbed by the Germans into their own Panzer divisions at the end of the campaign.


German Panzer I and Panzer II vehicles with a Hanomag to their left.
The German tanks were only lightly armed and armoured but when used in mass formations, they proved more than a match for the small number of Polish vehicles.


At 04.30 Stuka dive-bombers prematurely bombed the bridge at Tczew in the Pomeranian Corridor. SS troops dressed in Polish uniforms attacked the radio station at Gleiwitz and broadcast inflammatory statements urging Polish minorities to take up arms against Hitler. For a touch of realism, several bodies of concentration inmates dressed in Polish uniforms, were left behind as 'evidence' for journalists to report on.

The Free City of Danzig was heavily shelled and bombed, inflicting heavy casualties upon the civilian population and military coastal defences or navy flotillas. In Danzig, the defenders, particularly civilian volunteers were shot. The Army Pomorze faced the 4th Army whose tactic was to isolate them in the north from the rest of the Polish Forces and then link up with the Third Army and attack Warsaw.


JU87 Stuka


Daylong fighting produced at times, scenes of sheer heroism. The Pomorska Cavalry Brigade had been in contacts with the German 20th Motorized Infantry Division. Colonel Masterlarz had half the unit mount up and attempted a surprise attack from the rear. Catching an infantry battalion by surprise in a woodland clearing, the sabre attack wiped them out. Legends and myths were borne of cavalry units taking on armoured vehicles. However, what is forgotten, is that the cavalry units carried anti-tank weapons for rapid deployment.

On the Prussian Front the German Third Army broke through defences to the north of Warsaw. Ground attacks started at 05.00 and aimed to knock out the heavy fortifications at Mlawa. It was on this front that the Polish Mazowiecka Cavalry Brigade had a number of sabre clashes with the German First Cavalry Brigade thus marking an end to mounted warfare. The Polish Special Operational Group Narew had virtually no contacts with German forces due to the restraining action of the Polish Third Army and therefore effectively denied rapid gains on this front.



The heaviest fighting took place in the Southwest, a front covered by Army Lodz and further south, Army Krakow. Army Poznan in the centre saw little action or contact on the first day of fighting. The German Eighth and Tenth Armies pushed through the massive densely forested areas with major infantry clashes en route. The Wolynska Cavalry Brigade successfully countered attacks by the German 4th Panzer Division whose poor co-ordination in attack delayed advance and lost equipment. This front was geographicaly the most diverse and faced the largest concentration of mechanized troops. The heaviest fighting was around the industrial zone of Katowice.

In the south, the 44th and 45th Infantry Divisions attacked throught the Jablonkow Pass near Karwina and Cieszyn which were lightly defended. In the southern mountainous area, the XXII Panzer Corps attacked just below Nowy Targ at the Dunajec river which was defended by the 1st KOP Regiment and National Guard Zakopane Battalion. Army Krakow was forced to commit support to stem the attack which was temporarily held.



Outflanked and harassed by German guerrilla units, Army Krakow had to deal with a large number of armed German units set up by the Abwehr to carry out sabotage.

Once the Germans broke through the various fronts, poor communications impeded any chance of reforming on a grand scale. From the 10th until 18th September Polish units were able to reform quickly and still were able to harass and inflict serious damage. For field commanders like Anders, confusion and contradictory orders added to the pain and humiliation of the inevitable defeat. Units attempted to move south-east despite heavy co-ordinated artillery bombardments. Soldiers and civilians who were able to bear arms bravely defended and resisted for as long as possible as they moved behind the Vistula. Encirclement began and 60,000 troops were destroyed at Radom. Partisan units were organized and regular army units kept moving southeast in order to gain supplies of food and munitions and regroup to avoid annihilation once the Russians entered the war on 17th September.


Polish P11 Fighter


On September 17th. Soviet forces invaded from the east. Warsaw surrendered 2 weeks later, the garrison on the Hel peninsula surrendered on October 2nd., and the Polesie Defence group, after fighting on two fronts against both German and Soviet forces, surrendered on October 5th. The Poles had held on for twice as long as had been expected and had done more damage to the Germans than the combined British and french forces were to do in 1940. The Germans lost 50,000 men, 697 planes and 993 tanks and armoured cars.

Thousands of soldiers and civilians managed to escape to france and Britain whilst many more went "underground" . A government-in-exile was formed with Wladyslaw Raczkiewicz as President and General Wladyslaw Sikorski as Prime Minister.


German forces in the outskirts of Warsaw. In the background of the photograph, the city burns as a result of the German military assault. Warsaw, Poland, September 1939.


Field commanders moved as many of the remnants of the army to an escape route which led to Romania and Hungary . Units breached German lines on 22nd September before Soviet troops blocked all routes. Poland finally fell on the 6th October as the last organized resistance was crushed at Hel and Kock. Zaloga and Madej (1991) estimated the Germans took 587,000 prisoners and the Soviets 200,000. Anders (1949) estimated between 200 - 300,000 escaped into Romania and Hungary through the Dukla Pass. Those who were caught by the Soviets may have been far higher (Anders, 1949). Fiedotov, an NKVD general estimated it to be nearer 475,000. However, if all those arrested including White Russians, Jews and political prisoners, the number was between 1.5 and 1.6m people. Transported to the Gulags, few survived.

The Fourth Partition:




Under the German-Soviet pact Poland was divided; the Soviets took, and absorbed into the Soviet Union, the eastern half (Byelorussia and the West Ukraine), the Germans incorporated Pomerania, Posnania and Silesia into the Reich whilst the rest was designated as the General-Gouvernement (a colony ruled from Krakow by Hitler's friend, Hans Frank).


Marshal Edward Smigly-Rydz


In the Soviet zone 1.5 million Poles (including women and children) were transported to labour camps in Siberia and other areas. Many thousands of captured Polish officers were shot at several secret forest sites; the first to be discovered being Katyn, near Smolensk.

The Germans declared their intention of eliminating the Polish race (a task to be completed by 1975) alongside the Jews. This process of elimination, the "Holocaust", was carried out systematically. All members of the "intelligentsia" were hunted down in order to destroy Polish culture and leadership (many were originally exterminated at Oswiencim - better known by its German name, Auschwitz). Secret universities and schools, a "Cultural Underground", were formed (the penalty for belonging to one was death). In the General-Gouvernement there were about 100,000 secondary school pupils and over 10,000 university students involved in secret education.


Refugees, September 1939


The Polish Jews were herded into Ghettos where they were slowly starved and cruelly offered hopes of survival but, in fact, ended up being shot or gassed. In the end they were transported, alongside non-Jewish Poles, Gypsies and Soviet POWs, to extermination camps such as Auschwitz and Treblinka; at Auschwitz over 4 million were exterminated. 2000 concentration camps were built in Poland, which became the major site of the extermination programme, since this was where most of the intended victims lived.

Many non-Jewish Poles were either transported to Germany and used as slave labour or simply executed. In the cities the Germans would round-up and kill indiscriminately as a punishment for any underground or anti-German or pro-Jewish activity. In the countryside they kept prominent citizens as hostages who would be executed if necessary. Sometimes they liquidated whole villages; at least 300 villages were destroyed. Hans Frank said, "If I wanted to put up a poster for every seven Poles shot, the forests of Poland would not suffice to produce the paper for such posters."


Polish 7TP light tanks


Despite such horror the Poles refused to give in or cooperate (there were no Polish collaborators as in other occupied countries). The Polish Underground or AK (Armia Krajowa or Home Army) was the largest in Europe with 400,000 men. The Jewish resistance movement was set up separately because of the problem of being imprisoned within the ghettos. Both these organisations caused great damage to the Nazi military machine. Many non-Jewish Poles saved the lives of thousands of Jews despite the fact that the penalty, if caught, was death (in fact, Poland was the only occupied nation where aiding Jews was punishable by death).






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To: Matthew Paul; SAMWolf
Hi guys. Neville Chamberlain was such a moron. I thought WWII proved for good that appeasement doesn't work, but here we are with the Democrats, EU and Kofi Annan spewing the same old garbage.
81 posted on 09/03/2004 11:59:02 AM PDT by colorado tanker (wanna see my happy hat?)
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To: SAMWolf

Done some work on the shift to mechanized warfare, esp. the armoured formation tactics, logistics, communication, and doctrine. Most commentators, I think, do not pay enough attention to the radio communication changes after 1930.

The combined arms and deep penetration tactics of the Wehrmacht depended upon mass quantities of two way tube radios, and this technology was only available in the US, England, Germany, and to a lesser extent France and Japan. Actually the Japanese were very good at it, but weak in mass production, and the French brass had no idea what to do with what they had.


82 posted on 09/03/2004 12:00:07 PM PDT by Iris7 ("Democracy" assumes every opinion is equally valid. No one believes this is true.)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it

Interesting stories, folks. Nazis have to rank among the worst human vermin ever to have lived.


83 posted on 09/03/2004 12:02:32 PM PDT by colorado tanker (wanna see my happy hat?)
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To: Matthew Paul
Thank you Matt for sharing with us about Hubal.


84 posted on 09/03/2004 12:06:17 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: SAMWolf; alfa6
I read a book a few years ago called "Codebreakers" the story of Bletchley Park. It had quite a bit on enigma. That was an amazing operation. The Brits had many of the most brilliant (and eccentric) mathematicians in the UK working there. A small army of women operated huge mechanical computers to crunch the numbers. I saw an actual enigma (I think it was the Naval version) in the Imperial War Museum, a fascinating place.
85 posted on 09/03/2004 12:07:46 PM PDT by colorado tanker (wanna see my happy hat?)
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To: The Mayor

Good morning FRiend. :-)


86 posted on 09/03/2004 12:07:52 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Matthew Paul

A magnificent fighter to the end. A Hero indeed!


87 posted on 09/03/2004 12:08:54 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: manna

:-)


88 posted on 09/03/2004 12:09:07 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Matthew Paul
Hearing about those massacres, the Supreme Commander of the Home Army, gen.Stefan Rowecki ordered Hubal to stop fighting immediately. However, Hubal ignored the order and continued to fight.

Rowecki sounds like our democrats and their leader Kerry, he wants us to fight a more "sensitive" war.

89 posted on 09/03/2004 12:11:03 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: aomagrat

Another great ship with a great history. I light the camo job on this one.


90 posted on 09/03/2004 12:12:47 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: E.G.C.

We are busy as can be but things are going well in my new state of Oregon. They vote by mail here, that will be a first for me. I kind of liked going to the polls. It will seem odd. I'm also used to the weather making a difference on voting day for the turnout, won't be the case here.


92 posted on 09/03/2004 12:17:12 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Thank goodness. Glad you are feeling better.


93 posted on 09/03/2004 12:17:47 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it
I get 2,000 Google hits on "Rejewsky enigma". Most look decent. I truly believe that it was necessary not to call attention to the Rejewski mathematics until the permutation type crypto was no longer being used, as is today the case.

The stuff is still being used in Africa, I understand. There is a Navy intercept station near here because you can get good skip in this area from Congo to South Africa. This is public knowledge.

Yeah, busy. Had my fun for the day, got up early, everybody else in the world working, been "wasting time" at the keyboard. Actually I am increasingly of the opinion that time in the Foxhole is not wasted time. It certainly has made me write better paragraphs!
94 posted on 09/03/2004 12:18:03 PM PDT by Iris7 ("Democracy" assumes every opinion is equally valid. No one believes this is true.)
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To: Professional Engineer; SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
I'm still pinching myself over last night. What an amazing speech by the President - an out of the park grand slam. I've been so frustrated the last two years that our syntactically challenged leader could not explain what we're really doing in Iraq, but he made it clear as a bell last night.

Then, there was the Kerry speech. Of course, it was rude and graceless to try to step on the pubbies' convention, but it also turned out stupid. That was the worst speech I think I've ever heard from a major party presidential candidate. And he gave it when Bush's speech was fresh in everyone's mind, so the contrast couldn't have been clearer. Lurch looked angry, petty and incoherent.

95 posted on 09/03/2004 12:19:25 PM PDT by colorado tanker (wanna see my happy hat?)
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To: Valin

Thanks for the reminder Valin. I remember you mentioning this before. I need to see if the library has it.


96 posted on 09/03/2004 12:20:12 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it

Well, hello to you, my friend! How have you been? :)


97 posted on 09/03/2004 12:20:28 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("If I had a hammer, I'd use it on Peter, Paul and Mary." - Howard Rosenberg)
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To: bentfeather

Good afternoon feather.


98 posted on 09/03/2004 12:20:56 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: stand watie

Good news! Thanks for the report.


99 posted on 09/03/2004 12:23:07 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Iris7

Wonderful! I want to see it. Thanks for the link.


100 posted on 09/03/2004 12:24:21 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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