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The FReeper Foxhole Reviews "The VJ-Day Kiss" (8/14/1944)- August 15th, 2004
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Posted on 08/14/2004 11:32:17 PM PDT by snippy_about_it



Lord,

Keep our Troops forever in Your care

Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
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for all those serving their country at this time.



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The Kiss and more


It seems as if everybody's claiming to be the sailor--or the nurse he's kissing--in the famous photograph taken by Alfred Eisenstaedt for LIFE magazine 50 years ago on V-J Day, August 14, 1945.

The most recent claimant is Carl "Moose" Muscarello, an ex-cop from New York, who has been identified by the self-proclaimed then-nurse, Edith Shain as the man who kissed her in Times Square. They've appeared on television last week to broadcast their claims. But LIFE magazine has never identified the couple in the historic embrace--and probably never will.

In the past, some dozen ex-sailors have claimed to be the amorous seaman. And at least two other former nurses have identified themselves as his partner in Eisenstaedt's classic image.


From the August 1980 issue of LIFE, EDITH SHAIN SAYS SHE'S THE V-J DAY NURSE

Who was the Nurse? Edith Shain had just begun her nursing career when she went to see the V-J Day melee--and was promptly set upon. Then single, she was unastonished--"at that time in my life everyone was kissing me." She recognized herself in LIFE but kept her secret. "I didn't think it was dignified but times have changed." Now, a teacher, part-time nurse and a grandmother, Mrs. Shain, Eisie says, is the "vivacious, lovely woman."

WHO IS THE KISSING SAILOR?

Our story so far: It all started coming back to pretty Edith Shain as she studied once more the famous picture of the nurse being embraced by the sailor there in Times Square that glorious V-J Day 35 years ago. She decided the time had come to declare her identity as the woman in Alfred Eisenstaedt's photograph.

Eisie, delighted with the discovery, flew to Beverly Hills to photograph Edith as she appears today at 62--and that story ran in LIFE in August, 1980, along with a request for the real sailor to please step forward. Thus it was that memories stirred old seafaring hearts across the land, moments of danger and tossing seas and those too-brief winsome moments ashore.

Then, most vividly, that unforgetable day--August 15, 1945--when any swabbie worth his bell-bottoms kissed any girl within reach.



No fewer than 10 sailors, as well as two more nurses, have managed to recall to the last detail how it happened and how they happened to be in Times Square--persuading us that all their stories are true. But who is in the picture?






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On This Day In History


Birthdates which occurred on August 15:
1432 Luigi Pulci Italy, poet (Morgante)
1688 Frederick-William I king of Prussia (1713-1740)
1769 Napoleon Bonaparte resident of Elba (emperor 1804-13, 1814-15)
1771 Sir Walter Scott Scotland, novelist/poet (Lady of Lake)
1785 Thomas De Quincey Eng, writer (Confessions of English Opium Eater)
1803 Sir James Douglas father of British Columbia
1823 Orris Sanford Ferry, Bvt Major General (Union volunteers)
1845 Walter Crane England, painter/illustrator (Beauty & Beast)
1856 J Keir Hardie 1st Labour representative in British Parliament
1875 Samuel Coleridge-Taylor London, composer (Hiawatha's Wedding Feast)
1878 Pjotr N Wrangel, Russian baron/general (White Armies, WW II)
1879 Ethel Barrymore Phila, actress (Constant Wife, Corn is Green)
1888 T.E. Lawrence Tremadoc Wales, soldier/writer (aka Lawrence of Arabia)
1892 Louis-Victor due de Broglie France, physicist (Nobel 1929)
1898 Lillian Carter Pres Carter's mom
1901 Arias Arnulfo 3 time president of Panama (1940-41, 49-51, 68)
1904 Bill Baird Grand Is Nebr, puppeteer (Kukla Fran & Ollie, Muppet Show)
1912 Julia Child Pasadena Calif, chef (French Chef)
1920 Huntz Hall actor (Cyclone, Gas Pump Girls, The Rating Game)
1923 Rose Marie NYC, actress (Sally Rogers-Dick Van Dyke Show)
1924 Phyllis Schlafly St Louis, right-winger/Eagle Forum president
1925 Mike Connors Fresno Calif, actor (Joe Mannix-Mannix, Night Kill)
1926 Georgiann Johnson Decorah Iowa, actress (Marge-Mr Peepers)
1933 Lori Nelson Santa Fe NM, actress (Greta-How to Marry a Millionaire)
1935 Abby Dalton Las Vegas NV, actress (Joey Bishop Show)
1935 Vernon Eulion Jordan Jr civil rights activist
1941 Don Rich Olympia Wash, guitarist/country singer (Hee Haw)
1944 Linda Ellerbee Bryan Texas, newscaster (NBC News Overnight)
1945 Gene Upshaw NFL guard (Oakland), NFLPA leader
1946 Jimmy Webb Elk City Okla, songwriter (MacArthur Park, Up Up & Away)
1947 Gerald Velez congas (Spyro Gyra-Morning Dance)
1947 Manley Lanier "Sonny" Carter Jr Macon Ga, USN/astro (STS 33)
1950 Princess Anne England (daughter of Queen Elizabeth II)
1950 Tess Harper actress (Tender Mercies)
1955 Larry Mathews Burbank Calif, actor (Ritchie-Dick Van Dyke Show)
1967 F DeLorme Roche Jr. Roanoke, Virginia. Bartender extrodinaire (Guru of life, love & Libation)



Deaths which occurred on August 15:
0069 Servius Sulpicius Galba, 6th emperor of Rome (68-69), murdered
0423 Flavius Honorius, emperor East Roman Republic (395-423), dies
1057 Macbeth, King of Scotland, slain by son of King Duncan
1118 Alexius I Comnenus, Emperor of Byzantium (1081-1118), dies
1619 Miriam Bella, head of Jewish community of Cracow, dies
1864 Daniel Phineas Woodbury, US engineer/Union general-major, dies
1935 Wiley Post & Will Rogers killed in plane crash in Alaska
1975 Sheikh Mujibur Rahiman of Bangladesh killed in a military coup
1983 Anthony Costello actor, dies at 42
1988 - Mohammed Zia ul-Haq, President of Pakistan, killed in plane crash
1991 Marietta Tree (UN Comm of Human Rights), dies at 74
1992 Giorgio Perlasca, Italian anti-fascist (saved 5,200 Jews), dies


Reported: MISSING in ACTION

1968 HICKS TERRIN D. SILVER SPRINGS MD.
1968 SHANAHAN JOSEPH F. CLINTON IA.
[03/14/73 RELEASED BY DRV, ALIVE IN 98]
1970 BECKER JAMES C. PALESTINE TX.
1970 SCHMIDT PETER A. MILWAUKEE WI.

POW / MIA Data & Bios supplied by
the P.O.W. NETWORK. Skidmore, MO. USA.


On this day...
0778 Battle at Roncevalles: Basques beat Charles the Great
1057 Macbeth, King of Scotland, slain by son of King Duncan
1261 Constantinople falls to Michael VIII of Nicea and his army.
1457 Earliest dated book, "Mainz Psalter," completed
1519 Panama City founded
1534 -Ignatius of Loyola forms society of Jesus/Jesuits
1535 Asuncion, Paraguay founded
1598 Hugh O'Neill, the Earl of Tyrone, leads an Irish force to victory over the British at Battle of Yellow Ford
1620 Mayflower sets sail from Southampton with 102 Pilgrims
1748 United Lutheran Church of US organized
1824 Freed American slaves forms country of Liberia
1832 Gregory XVI encyclical On liberalism & religious indifferentism
1843 National black convention meets (Buffalo NY)
1848 M Waldo Hanchett patents dental chair
1858 Regular mail to the Pacific coast begins
1863 Submarine "HL Hunley" arrives in Charleston on railroad cars
1864 Off New England coast, CSS Tallahassee captures 6 yankee schooners
1870 Transcontinental Railway actually completed
1886 Guy Hecker scores 7 runs in 1 game
1893 US no longer allowed exclusive rights in Bering Sea
1901 Arch Rock, danger to SF Bay shipping, blasted with 30 tons of nitro
1905 Phila A's Rube Waddell no-hits St Louis Browns, 2-0 in 5 innings
1906 1st freight delivery tunnel system begins, underneath Chicago
1912 Yankee Guy Zinn sets record by stealing home twice in a game
1914 Panama Canal opens (under cost)
1918 1st full length cartoon (The Sinking of the Lusitania)
1918 US & Russia sever diplomatic ties
1931 Ernest Lassy completes longest canoe journey without port (6,102 mi)
1931 Roy Wilkins joined NAACP as asst secretary
1934 Bathysphere Explorers Charles William Beebe and Otis Barton were lowered in a spherical chamber called the "Bathysphere" to more than half a mile below the ocean's surface off the Bermuda Islands
1939 "Wizard of Oz" premiers at Grauman's Chinese Theater, Hollywood
1942 5 hostages executed by Nazis in St-Michielsgestel
1943 Allies land on Kiska Aleutians
1944 US 12 Army corp enters Le Mans through Orléans
1944 US 7th Armour division reaches Chartres
1945 A riot ensued in SF while the city was celebrating the end of WW II
1945 South Korea liberated from Japanese rule
1945 US wartime rationing of gasoline & fuel oil ends
1947 India becomes independent, Islamic part becomes Pakistan
1948 Republic of Korea (South Korea) proclaimed (National Day)
1950 8.6 quake kills over 1,000 in Assam, India
1952 9" of rain fall creates a 20' wave in Lynmouth, England killing 34
1957 David Simons reaches 30,942 m in Man High 2 balloon
1957 USAF Capt Joe B Jordan reaches 31,513 m in F-104 jet fighter
1958 Buddy Holly weds Maria Santiago
1960 Congo (Brazzaville) gains independence from France (Natl Day)
1960 Mil Brave Lew Burdette no-hits Phila Phillies, 1-0
1960 UFO is sighted by 3 California patrolmen
1962 Shady Grove Baptist Church burned in Leesburg Georgia
1964 Race riot in Dixmoor (Chicago suburb) Ill
1964 Ralph Boston of the US, sets then long jump record at 27' 3¬"
1965 Beatle's Shea Stadium concert
1966 Radio Free Asia (South Korea) begins radio transmission
1967 England's Marine Offense Bill making pirate radio stations a crime goes into effect, pirate station Radio 355 closes down
1968 Pirate Radio Free London, begins transmitting
1969 Woodstock Music & Art Fair opens in NY State (Max Yasgur's Dairy Farm) (Don't take the brown acid)
1970 Patricia Palinkas becomes 1st woman pro football player (Orlando)
1971 Bahrain gains independence from Britain
1971 Pres Nixon announces 90-day freeze on wages, prices & rents
1973 Black September kills 3 wounds 55 Athens
1974 Longest team (6) trampoline bouncing marathon (1,248 hours (52 days))
1974 South Korean President Park Chung-Hee escapes assassination
1975 Joanne Little acquitted of murder charges
1978 House of Reps approves (233-169), 39-month extension for ERA
1979 Andrew Young resigns as UN ambassador
1981 Robin Leamy of US swims record 7.98 kph for 50 m
1986 Pres Reagan decides to support a replacement for the Challenger
1987 US beats Cuba in the Pan-Am baseball
1988 NYC begins $70 million program to rebuild 900 Bronx apartments
1989 US Venus probe Magellan launched from Space shuttle
1991 750,000 attend Paul Simon's free concert in Central Park
1992 Colombo '92 closes in Genoa Italy
1994 Terrorist Carlos the Jackal, captured in Khartoum Sudan
1997 The Justice Department decided against prosecuting senior FBI officials in connection with an alleged cover-up that followed the deadly 1992 Ruby Ridge siege in Idaho.


Holidays
Note: Some Holidays are only applicable on a given "day of the week"

Chad, Congo-1960, India-1947 : Independence Day
Costa Rica : Mother's Day
Grenada, Liechtenstein, Corsica : National Day
Laos : Memorial Day
South Korea : Liberation Day (1945, 1948)
National Relaxation Day
National Apple Week (Day 6)
American Artists Appreciation Month


Religious Observances
Ang, Luth : Commemoration of St Mary, virgin, mother of Our Lord
RC : Solemnity of the Assumption of the Virgin


Religious History
1096 The armies of the First Crusade set out from Europe to deliver Jerusalem from the occupying forces of Islamic Turks. Championed by Peter the Hermit in 1093, Pope Urban II had sanctioned the crusade at the Council of Clermont in 1095.
1534 The Society of Jesus (Jesuits) was founded by Ignatius of Loyola, 43. Created to foster reform within Catholicism, and to undertake education and missionary work, this colorful religious order was formally approved by Pope Paul III in 1540.
1549 The first Christian missionaries to reach Japan landed at Kagoshima (on the coast of Kyushu, southernmost of the four main islands of Japan). They were a band of Spanish Jesuits, led by pioneer Catholic missionary Francis Xavier, 43.
1613 Birth of Jeremy Taylor, Anglican clergyman and devotional writer. Two of his works became classic expressions of Anglican spirituality: "The Rule and Exercise of Holy Living" (1650) and "The Rule and Exercise of Holy Dying" (1651).
1790 Father John Carroll, 55, was consecrated by Pius VI as the first Roman Catholic bishop (later, in 1811, the first archbishop) of the United States.

Source: William D. Blake. ALMANAC OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH. Minneapolis: Bethany House, 1987.


Thought for the day :
If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving isn't for you.


Excuses For Missing Work...
My stigmata's acting up


You Might Be An Engineer If...
The highlight of your trip to Las Vegas was a tour of Hoover Dam


Doggie Dictionary...
WASTEBASKET:
This is a dog toy filled with paper, envelopes, and old
candy wrapper. When you get bored, turn over the basket and strew the papers all over the house until your person comes home


Dumb Laws...
Kentucky:
One may not dye a duckling blue and offer it for sale unless more than six are for sale at once.


21 posted on 08/15/2004 6:33:30 AM PDT by Valin (John Kerry: Dumber than Gore, more exciting than Mondale)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Professional Engineer; Matthew Paul; All

Good morning everyone.

22 posted on 08/15/2004 6:37:38 AM PDT by Soaring Feather
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

Morning Cannoneer No. 4.

IMHO, the cost of not dropping the bomb and invading the Home Islands would have been mind staggering.


23 posted on 08/15/2004 6:46:13 AM PDT by SAMWolf (When their numbers dwindled from 50 to 8, the dwarfs began to suspect "Hungry")
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To: Aeronaut

Good Morning Aeronaut


24 posted on 08/15/2004 6:46:32 AM PDT by SAMWolf (When their numbers dwindled from 50 to 8, the dwarfs began to suspect "Hungry")
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To: alfa6

Morning alfa6.

Working on Sunday. :-(

Even the Lord rested one day a week. Of course He didn't have to pay bills and taxes. :-)


25 posted on 08/15/2004 6:48:01 AM PDT by SAMWolf (When their numbers dwindled from 50 to 8, the dwarfs began to suspect "Hungry")
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To: snopercod

Morning snopercod. Hope your FIL enjoys the thread.


26 posted on 08/15/2004 6:48:44 AM PDT by SAMWolf (When their numbers dwindled from 50 to 8, the dwarfs began to suspect "Hungry")
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To: ken5050

Morning ken5050.

Cool.

Between the Peterson case, Hurricane Charley and Kobe Bryant, I didn't think VJ Day even got a mention in any news I saw. :-(


27 posted on 08/15/2004 6:54:18 AM PDT by SAMWolf (When their numbers dwindled from 50 to 8, the dwarfs began to suspect "Hungry")
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To: GailA

Morning GailA. It finnaly turned cool here, only hit the 80's late in the day yesterday.


28 posted on 08/15/2004 6:55:11 AM PDT by SAMWolf (When their numbers dwindled from 50 to 8, the dwarfs began to suspect "Hungry")
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To: E.G.C.

Morning E.G.C.


29 posted on 08/15/2004 6:55:38 AM PDT by SAMWolf (When their numbers dwindled from 50 to 8, the dwarfs began to suspect "Hungry")
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To: snippy_about_it
HUZZAH for kissing pretty grrrls!

mother of course remembers VJ day & says it was STRANGE!

she was on a troop train (headed to see my dad who was with the USAAF in AZ) when a man got on the train yelling that the "JAPS QUIT"! NOBODY paid him any mind & the party went ON & ON.

when the train got to El Paso, a man got on the train with a copy of the EP Daily Sun & then mother said the party abruptly ended & "it was quiet as a mouse for the rest of the trip".

free dixie,sw

30 posted on 08/15/2004 6:57:47 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: Tax-chick
Morning Tac-Chick.

Good story ... my great-uncle was on a ship ready to attack Japan on August 14!

One of my friends in grammer school had a dad who had spent the war in the Italian Theatre and was being shipped to Japan for the invasion. He never once doubted the decision to drop the bomb.

31 posted on 08/15/2004 6:58:10 AM PDT by SAMWolf (When their numbers dwindled from 50 to 8, the dwarfs began to suspect "Hungry")
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To: The Mayor

Morning Mayor. Nice Parable this morning.


32 posted on 08/15/2004 6:59:10 AM PDT by SAMWolf (When their numbers dwindled from 50 to 8, the dwarfs began to suspect "Hungry")
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To: SAMWolf
Morning, SAM

BTW for those of you who use Windows XP as do I, I'll let you know that Microsoft is going to start relasing their XP SP 2 to the automatic updates starting tommorow.

I've been reading all sort of storiess here at FR and at other message boards from those who've had experiences with XP SP 2. We'll see how everything turns out in the upcoming days.

33 posted on 08/15/2004 7:04:17 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Valin
1935 Wiley Post & Will Rogers killed in plane crash in Alaska

The budget is a mythical bean bag. Congress votes mythical beans into it, and then tries to reach in and pull real beans out."

"We can't all be heroes because somebody has to sit on the curb and clap as they go by."

"I never met a man I didn't like,"

Will Rogers never met John Kerry

34 posted on 08/15/2004 7:07:43 AM PDT by SAMWolf (When their numbers dwindled from 50 to 8, the dwarfs began to suspect "Hungry")
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To: bentfeather

Good Morning Feather.


35 posted on 08/15/2004 7:07:58 AM PDT by SAMWolf (When their numbers dwindled from 50 to 8, the dwarfs began to suspect "Hungry")
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To: stand watie

Morning stand watie.

VJ-Day had to be one of those "I remember exactly where I was" days like the Kennedy assassination, the Space Shuttle disasters , 911 or Christmas in Cambodia.


36 posted on 08/15/2004 7:10:53 AM PDT by SAMWolf (When their numbers dwindled from 50 to 8, the dwarfs began to suspect "Hungry")
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To: E.G.C.

Thanks Valin.

Were these good experiences or bad experiences with SP 2?


37 posted on 08/15/2004 7:11:52 AM PDT by SAMWolf (When their numbers dwindled from 50 to 8, the dwarfs began to suspect "Hungry")
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To: SAMWolf

Yea working on a Sunday, this is my built in overtime day on the schedule. 8 hours of today are O/T, big whoope.

One of these days I am going to have to win a lottery and retire. Sure thing, I will probaly find an envelope with my name on it containing a large sum of money in small unmarked bills too :-}

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


38 posted on 08/15/2004 7:12:11 AM PDT by alfa6
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To: SAMWolf
YEP. it must have been.

FYI, i was born about 9 months after VJ day.

free dixie,sw

39 posted on 08/15/2004 7:24:55 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: snippy_about_it
Announcement to All

Just love VJ day! Dad was a WWII vet, and until the day he dies, he celebrated this day!

I have something to celebrate this fine Sunday as well. On Friday the 13th, I went to the hospital to have a cardiac cath. done. I'd had one done back in 2000 and three significan blockages were found and stented. Of course, the follow on stuff with the medical insurance happened. You know...raised rates, "pre-existing condition" clauses kicked into effect, stuff like that.

Long story short...I'm clear!!! All arteries fully open; stents holding just fine! In and out in a day!

To those of you without CAD, this is small news indeed. To those of us with CAD, it is good news indeed!

So...today it's back to normal exercise!

40 posted on 08/15/2004 7:27:09 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
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