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The FReeper Foxhole - CholeraJoe visits the USS Missouri & USS Arizona Memorial - Feb. 29th, 2004
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Posted on 02/29/2004 4:51:26 AM PST by snippy_about_it
Lord,
Keep our Troops forever in Your care
Give them victory over the enemy...
Grant them a safe and swift return...
Bless those who mourn the lost. .
FReepers from the Foxhole join in prayer for all those serving their country at this time.
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USS Missouri joins Arizona on 'Battleship Row'
New home for 'Mighty Mo'
March 7 1999
HONOLULU -- The USS Arizona -- sitting solitary, silent and hallowed on Battleship Row for almost 60 years -- is not alone anymore.
The battered ship, resting on the bottom of Pearl Harbor, has become a national symbol, the sunken memorial to the Americans who died during the Japanese attack on Oahu and Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941. It is the most sacred U.S. Navy monument on Earth, the final grave for the 1,177 sailors and Marines who perished aboard during the attack.
Now, anchored near the Arizona is the USS Missouri, the second most-famous battleship of World War II, official designation BB-63.
Like the Arizona, the Missouri sits next to a pier at Ford Island in the middle of Pearl Harbor. For the "Mighty Mo" -- the ship's famous nickname -- a berth in Pearl Harbor marks the end of an illustrious career that spanned more than a half-century and service in three wars.
Today, the Missouri's huge 16-inch guns are silent, pointing symbolically toward the Arizona. It is poetic that these two U.S. warships should end up next to each other. The Arizona was sunk at the beginning of the U.S.-Japanese conflict, and it was aboard the Missouri that the Japanese signed the formal surrender ending World War II four years later.
On Jan. 29, in ceremonies aboard ship, the Missouri was officially opened to the public as a floating museum -- 55 years to the day after it was launched. Along with the Arizona and the other Navy relic of the war anchored at Pearl Harbor -- the submarine Bowfin -- the Missouri is fated to become part of one of the major tourist attractions in Hawaii.
It was a long voyage from Brooklyn, where the Missouri was built, to Pearl Harbor, half an Earth away. The Mighty Mo was the last battleship launched by the United States, entering service in 1944. It was christened by Margaret Truman, the daughter of the newly elected vice president, Harry Truman, a former U.S. senator from Missouri. After going through the Panama Canal to the Pacific, it was involved in the invasions of Okinawa and Iwo Jima and attacks on the Japanese homeland.
On Sept. 2, 1945, a month after the U.S. atomic attacks at Nagasaki and Hiroshima, the Japanese formally surrendered aboard the Missouri. The site of that ceremony -- now called the "Surrender Deck" -- is marked by permanent plaques and is a major stop on public tours of the ship. (An elevator has been installed to allow wheelchair access to the Surrender Deck and other areas of the ship.)
The end of World War II also saw the end of the "Battleship Age" and the beginning of the "Carrier Age," meaning the demise of most of the Navy's battleships.
Most were scrapped, a few were mothballed, some were used as targets for U.S. atomic tests. Among those saved -- just in case of future need -- were the Missouri and its sister ships -- the New Jersey, the Iowa and the Wisconsin.
By 1950, the Missouri was the only U.S. battleship on active duty, and in September of that year was involved in the invasion of Inchon at the beginning of the Korean War. Later, the other three Iowa-class ships were also called back for the war.
In 1955, the Missouri was decommissioned and put into the mothball fleet at the Puget Sound Naval Shipyard at Bremerton, Wash. While there, it was visited by as many as 180,000 tourists a year.
There it sat until 1986, when the Navy (and President Ronald Reagan) decided to create a 600-ship navy and recommissioned the Missouri and several other battleships. The recommissioning ceremonies took place in San Francisco on May 10, 1986.
San Francisco desperately wanted the Missouri home-ported at Hunters Point, but in the end, the ship ended up at Long Beach.
In 1990, after Iraq invaded Kuwait, the Missouri -- along with the Wisconsin -- was sent to the Persian Gulf. Near the beginning of the hostilities -- Jan. 17, 1991 -- the Missouri fired Tomahawk cruise missiles at Iraqi targets, and in February, fired its 16-inch guns for the first time since Korea.
The Mighty Mo fired its weapons in anger for the last time at targets in Ra's al Khafji, Saudi Arabia, occupied by the Iraqis. The ship fired 209 rounds from its 16-inch guns, which are capable of sending a 2,000-pound shell 23 miles.
The Missouri was decommissioned again in 1992. A number of U.S. cities wanted to claim the battleship, but in the end, the Navy donated it to the USS Missouri Memorial Association in Honolulu in 1998.
There has been some resistance to putting the Missouri near the Arizona, with some veterans and Navy personnel feeling that the Arizona, as a sacred site, should not share honors on Battleship Row with another ship, no matter how famous. (The name "Battleship Row" came about because the Navy's World War II Pacific-based battleships were normally lined up in rows along Ford Island -- where the Japanese found them tightly packed during the attack.)
The Missouri sits about 300 yards from the Arizona. The Navy has given permission for the ship to remain there for three years, when it will be moved to another spot farther away, but still next to Ford Island.
The official Navy position is more congenial, noting that the Missouri, in conjunction with the Bowfin and the Arizona, is part of a rich historical experience.
For their part, Missouri supporters are hoping that in the end, given what is expected to be intense public interest, the Navy will leave the Missouri where it is.
"Look at the big guns," Tom Pinet, the Missouri's tour program manager, said. "The way they point, they're symbolically protecting the Arizona. The last thing we want in the world is to turn this into Disneyland. We all respect the Arizona."
The U.S. Park Service, which is in charge of the Arizona Memorial, is upbeat about the Missouri's arrival.
In a news release issued before the opening ceremonies, the Park Service noted that "each of the three (ships) are coming together to service a single critical purpose -- to sustain the rich history of this very special place -- the living history of Pearl Harbor."
Copyright © 2004, Knight-Ridder/Tribune (KRT)
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To: SAMWolf
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posted on
02/29/2004 8:06:28 AM PST
by
Valin
(America is the land mine between barbarism and civilization.)
To: snippy_about_it
My Mom and Dad didn't call me "BumpsKopf" for nothing. :-)
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posted on
02/29/2004 8:14:20 AM PST
by
SAMWolf
(I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
To: Valin
LOL! Probably didn't have a good Press Agent.
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posted on
02/29/2004 8:15:56 AM PST
by
SAMWolf
(I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
To: bentfeather
PinFeather?
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posted on
02/29/2004 8:16:18 AM PST
by
SAMWolf
(I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
To: SAMWolf
bentfeather, straightfeather, pinfeather.
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posted on
02/29/2004 8:18:00 AM PST
by
Soaring Feather
(~ I do Poetry and party among the stars~)
To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; CholeraJoe
Great presentation today. Thanks
Many years ago, as a lad of 12, I had a paper route. Through subsciption sales, I won a trip to Seattle. The trip included a ferry ride to Bremerton and a tour of the USS MISSOURI (BB-63). I remember standing at the spot where the bronze plaque is installed on the deck. Awesome, memorable experience for me at that young age.
As events unfold a few years later, my ship was one of those present in Tokyo Bay for the surrender.
Thanks again for the presentation.
To: snippy_about_it; CholeraJoe
Wow! Great pictures! Thanks for sharing them with us. They were so much more personal than the news photos.
I would truly love to go, but this is probably the closest I'll ever get. I would need to be sedated for a flight that long--nerves of Jello. Plus, now they're talking about weighing passengers. Yipes! I can't imagine any lady hobbit ever submitting to that. As I tell Samwise Jr., a lady is never obligated to reveal her true age or weight.
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posted on
02/29/2004 8:25:00 AM PST
by
Samwise
(There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil.)
To: SAMWolf
Morning Sam.
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posted on
02/29/2004 8:32:51 AM PST
by
Aeronaut
(Peace: in international affairs, a period of cheating between two periods of fighting.)
To: Diver Dave
Morning DD.
It sure is an awesome feeling standing on the spot the Surrender was signed and reading the plaque.
Snippy and CJ did a good job on the thread today. I wish I had the pictures I took of the MISSOURI in Astoria handy. :-(
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posted on
02/29/2004 8:33:37 AM PST
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SAMWolf
(I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
To: snippy_about_it
It's going to be slow as is for our dial-up folks. It's pretty frustrating when the text you are trying to read keeps jumping up the screen on you. I am lobbying Hubby for DSL. Hobbit lass is beginning to join the discussion. I don't know whether to get an ethernet card or use the modem they'll supply. I also don't know whether or not to set up a wiles network so the hobbit lass can hook up her PC, too. Nor do I know how complicated this will be to set up. Any tips anyone has will be welcome. The SBC rep just says, "We'll send you a kit."
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posted on
02/29/2004 8:34:01 AM PST
by
Samwise
(There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil.)
To: Diver Dave
Your welcome. Good to see you Dave.
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posted on
02/29/2004 8:36:18 AM PST
by
snippy_about_it
(Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
To: SAMWolf; Valin
I'll bet the DAV would have hated to send him address labels. Reminds me of the Dick Van Dyke episode where they named Richie "ROSEBUD."
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posted on
02/29/2004 8:37:15 AM PST
by
Samwise
(There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil.)
To: Samwise
Morning Samwise. I did the flight from Alaska to Hawaii to Vietnam and then from California to Japan to Vietnam plus the return flights. Flying over water for that long gets really, really old. Not much to see and you can only read and play cards for so long.
As I tell Samwise Jr., a lady is never obligated to reveal her true age or weight.
That's what my mom always told the kids too.
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posted on
02/29/2004 8:37:53 AM PST
by
SAMWolf
(I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
To: Samwise
I have 3 computers networked. Nothing fancy, the hardest part was running the cable, I didn't want to go wireless.
I took the modem they supplied, I figured if anything goes wrong they supply a new one.
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posted on
02/29/2004 8:40:11 AM PST
by
SAMWolf
(I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
To: SAMWolf
Mother always knows best.
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posted on
02/29/2004 8:40:25 AM PST
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Samwise
(There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil.)
To: Samwise
Reminds me of the Dick Van Dyke episode where they named Richie "ROSEBUD."Now that was a good series. "Ulysess, if a girl Ulysessia"
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posted on
02/29/2004 8:41:40 AM PST
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SAMWolf
(I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
To: SAMWolf
the hardest part was running the cable I'll try just about anything software related, but wires and cables and such. Eeeks! Manswork scares me.
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posted on
02/29/2004 8:43:21 AM PST
by
Samwise
(There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil.)
To: Samwise
"We'll send you a kit."Don't ya love it. Grrrr. I'm having parts and a kit sent to me so my laptop can "go wireless anywhere in the world". Oh boy, I can't wait to try and put it together and then make it work. LOL.
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posted on
02/29/2004 8:44:02 AM PST
by
snippy_about_it
(Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
To: Samwise
Not much for crawling around in attics or crawlspaces huh?
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posted on
02/29/2004 8:45:08 AM PST
by
SAMWolf
(I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
"I don't like spiders and snakes..." or electricity.
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posted on
02/29/2004 8:48:16 AM PST
by
Samwise
(There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil.)
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