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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers Utah Beach - The Seaborne Assault (6/6/1944) - Nov. 25th, 2003
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Posted on 11/25/2003 12:00:30 AM PST by SAMWolf



Lord,

Keep our Troops forever in Your care

Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
.

FReepers from the Foxhole join in prayer
for all those serving their country at this time.


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Utah Beach
The Seaborne Assault

Task Force U Moves In


While parachutists attempted to assemble in the labyrinth of the Normandy hedgerows and marshes, troops aboard transports prepared to transfer into landing craft for the assault on the beach. At 0430 (H minus 2 hours) detachments of the 4th and 24th Cavalry Squadrons under Lt. Col. E. C. Dunn landed on the Iles St. Marcouf to capture what was suspected to be a hostile observation post or casemate for mine-field control. Prior to the landing four men armed only with knives swam to what was supposedly an enemy-held shore to mark the beaches. No enemy was encountered, although both islands were found to be heavily mined and some casualties were suffered. All elements of the detachment (numbering 132 men) were ashore and the island occupied by 0530.


Enemy Forces - Estimated


In the meantime the unloading of troops into assault landing craft proceeded uneventfully. After the transfer, LCVP's circled the transports awaiting the order to rendezvous. At H minus 40 minutes (0550) warships of the bombardment group of Task Force 125 began firing on enemy shore batteries. A few minutes later 276 Marauders of the Ninth Air Force dropped 4,404 250-pound bombs on 7 objectives on the beach, extending from les Dunes de Varreville to Beau Guillot. The effectiveness of this attack is difficult to assess. Les Dunes de Varreville seems to have received more bombs than any other target, possibly because the conspicuous tank ditch surrounding the area persuaded pilots to unload on it when briefed targets could not be located. About one-third of all bombs fell between high and low tide water marks. As assault craft started for the beach, the fire support group, consisting of thirty-three variously equipped craft, began the process of beach drenching. Seventeen of these craft mounted rocket launchers and discharged their rockets when the first waves of assault craft were still 600 to 700 yards from shore.

One of the earliest mishaps caused the immobilization of one of the control vessels. At approximately 0455 the Green Beach primary and secondary control vessels and the Red Beach primary control vessel left the Transport Area for the beach. The secondary control vessel for Red Beach fouled her screw on a dan buoy and was unable to proceed. An hour later, while still more than 7,000 yards from the beach and already 10 to 15 minutes late, the Red Beach primary control vessel was sunk, probably by a mine. Shortly thereafter an LCT behind the Green Beach primary control vessel also hit a mine and sank. The run into shore was already behind schedule, and these sinkings caused some of the landing craft to slow down. The Green Beach secondary control vessel therefore turned about to bring the landing craft in closer to the beach and announced that it would lead all amphibious tanks in. The tank-carrying LCT's were supposed to launch the tanks at 5,000 yards, but to save time they were brought to within 3,000 yards of the beach and then discharged.


Enemy Forces - Actual


The first wave consisted of 20 LCVP's, each carrying a 30-man assault team from the 8th Infantry. The 10 craft on the right were to land on Tare Green Beach, opposite the strong point at les Dunes de Varreville. The 10 craft on the left were intended or Uncle Red Beach, 1,000 yards farther south. The entire operation was timed against the touchdown of this first assault wave, which was scheduled to take place at 0630. Eight LCT's, each carrying 4 duplex drive (DD ) amphibious tanks, were scheduled to land at the same time or as soon thereafter as possible. The second wave comprised another 32 LCVP's with additional troops of the 2 assault battalions, some combat engineers, and also 8 naval demolition teams which were to clear the beach of underwater obstacles. The third wave, timed for H plus 15 minutes, contained 8 more LCT's with dozer tanks. It was followed within 2 minutes by the fourth wave, mainly detachments of the 237th and 299th Engineer Combat Battalions, to clear the beaches between high and low water marks.



The first wave arrived at the line of departure on time and all twenty craft were dispatched abreast. Support craft to the ear were firing machine guns, possibly with the hope of exploding mines. When the LCVP's were from 300 to 400 yards from the beach, the assault company commanders fired special smoke projectors to signal the lifting of naval support craft fire. Almost exactly at H Hour the assault craft lowered their ramps and six hundred men walked into waist-deep water to wade the last 100 or more yards to the beach. The actual touchdown on the beach was therefore a few minutes late, but the delay was negligible and had no effect on the phasing of the succeeding waves. Enemy artillery had fired a few air bursts at sea, but otherwise there was no opposition at H Hour. The morale of the assault troops was excellent. The men waved their rifles as they reached the dry beach, some of them shouting, "Goddam, we're on French soil." They were obviously relieved and happy that this was not another "dry run." The first troops to reach shore were from the 2d Battalion, 8th Infantry. The 1st Battalion landed a few minutes later. Both came ashore considerably south of the designated beaches. The 2d Battalion should have hit Uncle Red Beach opposite Exit 3 . The 1st Battalion was supposed to land directly opposite the strong point at les Dunes de Varreville. The landings, however, were made astride Exit 2 about 2,000 yards south.


Troops wade ashore at Utah Beach, June 1944. This unidentified sector is protected by eight balloons. Details include a DUKW driving along the shoreline (middle left), as well as the LCVP with its open ramp dominating the foreground, complete with life vests strewn everywhere and a bored-looking coxswain standing at right.


It is difficult to pinpoint the cause for this error. Both Red Beach control vessels had been lost, and one of the Green Beach control vessels had gone back to bring in the LCT's carrying DD amphibious tanks. Guiding the initial assault waves to the proper beaches was therefore the sole responsibility of one control vessel. The possibility of error was increased by the strong tidal current as well as by the beach drenching administered by naval fire support craft, which threw up a tremendous cloud of smoke, dust, and fine sand, obscuring the beach for many minutes just prior to and after the jump-off from the line of departure.

Potentially this error was very serious, for it might have caused great confusion. In fact it did not. The original plans, in which each assault section had a specific mission, could not be carried out in detail, of course. Brig. Gen. Theodore Roosevelt, Jr., assistant commander of the 4th Division, had volunteered to coordinate the initial attack on the beach strong points until the arrival of the regimental commander, Colonel Van Fleet, and had landed with Company E. When it was realized that the landings had been made at the wrong place, he personally made a reconnaissance of the area immediately to the rear of the beach to locate the causeways which were to be used for the advance inland. He then returned to the point of landing, contacted the commanders of the two battalions, Lt. Cols. Conrad C. Simmons and Carlton O. MacNeely, and coordinated the attack on the enemy positions confronting them. These impromptu plans worked with complete success and little confusion. The errors in landing actually proved fortunate. Not only was the beach farther south less thickly obstructed, but the enemy shore defenses were also less formidable than those opposite the intended landing beaches.

Clearing the Beaches


Such clearing of beach obstacles as was necessary was the mission of a special engineer force which was scheduled to land directly after the 8th Infantry. The engineer elements were organized as a Beach Obstacle Task Force, commanded by Maj. Herschel E. Linn of the 1106th Engineer Combat Group. They were to clear four 50-yard gaps in the obstacles on each beach from the high water mark seaward by hand-placed charges and tank dozers. Naval demolition teams were to destroy all obstacles under water and Army engineer teams were responsible for those above water. Army combat engineers were from the 237th Engineer Combat Battalion. The detachment of eight tank dozers was from the 612th Light Equipment Company and 70th Tank Battalion.



The plan contemplated the simultaneous landing at H plus 5 minutes of eight naval teams to clear eight s0-yard gaps in the first band of obstacles. This wave was to be followed in 10 minutes by 8 LCT's carrying, in addition to other tanks, 8 tank dozers. Immediately behind the tanks were to come 8 engineer combat demolition teams to clear obstacles above water. A reserve of 3 naval teams and 4 engineer teams was included in the fourth and fifth waves.

Like many other D-Day operations, this plan was not executed as conceived. Two LCT's were sunk while approaching the beach. One LCM, with an engineer demolition team, was hit by shell fire just as it lowered its ramp on Green Beach, and six men were killed. Both Army and Navy demolition teams beached almost simultaneously, together with the four reserve engineer teams which landed on Green Beach. These discrepancies between plan and performance in no case seriously hindered the operation.

The parties left the LCVP's and LCM's in three feet of water and waded ashore, each man carrying sixty pounds of explosives. Aerial photos had indicated three bands of obstacles in depth. Since H Hour was timed for a rising tide favorable for landing craft, it was expected that one band would be either in or near the edge of the water. Actually all obstacles were found dry. The Navy teams, however, proceeded as instructed to x explosives on the seaward band and the engineers moved to the next band. After the first gap at the junction of the beaches was blown, it was decided to proceed at once to the clearing of the entire beach. The landing craft heading for the initial gap were bunching so dangerously, and the obstacles were so much more sparsely distributed than expected, that the original plan of clearing only 50-yard gaps was abandoned.


Landing virtually unopposed, men of the U.S. 4th Division wade ashore at Victor sector. Amphibious "DD" tanks are lined up at the water's edge.


Major Linn and the executive officer of the 237th Engineer Combat Battalion, Maj. R. P. Tabb, had both planned to direct operations from their M-29's (Weasels) on the beach. Major Linn's craft was sunk and Major Tabb's vehicle sank as it left the landing craft. Major Tabb saved the crew and a radio and made for the beach, where he got in touch with General Roosevelt. There was little of the expected excitement and not much confusion. Control during the landing was never a serious problem because it was decentralized. The fortuitous simultaneous landings of Army and Navy demolition teams made possible the setting and blowing of charges for all three bands of obstacles at once, and consequently saved time.

As expected, obstacles consisted mainly of steel and concrete pikes, some steel tetrahedra, and hedgehogs. Tank dozers worked effectively against some of the piling and pushed the obstacles up onto the beach, but hand-placed charges accounted for most of them. Only a few mines were found on the beach, attached to the obstacles. Belgian Gates were found in small number, a few on the beach and a few blocking the roads leading from the beach. The four reserve teams which landed on Green Beach blew these gates and assisted in blasting additional gaps in the sea wall.

The entire beach was cleared in an hour, and by that time elements of the 87th Chemical Mortar Battalion, the 3d Battalion of the 8th Infantry, and the 3d Battalion of the 22d Infantry were moving across the beaches, while engineer units were arriving to organize the beach operation. The Beach Obstacle Task Force was occupied with odd jobs for several hours more, but before noon had completed its task and reorganized. Of the 400 men involved, 6 were killed and 39 wounded.



Clearing the beach was only the first of the tasks assigned to combat engineers. One platoon of engineers was attached to each assault company of the 8th Infantry to blow gaps in the sea wall, destroy barbed wire in front and to the rear of the wall, and clear paths inland through the sand dunes. These tasks completed, they were then to perform normal assault missions against fortifications. For their initial missions they were equipped with bangalore torpedoes, mine detectors, explosives, and pioneer tools and markers. The demolition of the sea wall and clearance of paths through the sand dunes were accomplished very early. Company A, 237th Engineer Combat Battalion, blew two gaps in the wall on Red Beach, and Company C blew two on Green Beach. In addition Company A blew two Belgian Gates at the entrance to Exit 2 and picked up several prisoners from the pillboxes along the beach wall. The engineers then accompanied the infantry, removing mines and "dozing" roads across the dunes. As enemy artillery began to interdict the entrance to Exit 2, a trail was broken through the fields to the south and joined with the road which paralleled the coast and led back to Exit 2 south of la Madeleine Many of the fields back of the beach marked Miner were free, but the pattern was such that all were suspect and had to be cleared.



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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf
Good morning!

Thank you for another great thread. Meetings this morning - so I'll need to savor this one again over lunch.

21 posted on 11/25/2003 7:13:27 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("This is the sort of English up with which I will not put." - Winston Churchill)
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To: SAMWolf
On this Day In History


Birthdates which occurred on November 25:
1562 Lope Felix de Vega Madrid Spain, dramatist/poet (Angelica, Arcadia)
1835 Andrew Carnegie steel industrialist/library builder
1846 Carry Nation scourge of barkeepers & drinkers
1856 Sergei Taneyev Russia, composer (Oresteia)
1877 Harley Granville-Barker London, dramatist/producer/critic
1881 John XXIII [Angelo Roncalli], Bergamo Italy, 261st pope (1958-63)
1893 Robert Ripley illustrator (Believe it or Not)
1895 Anastas I Mikoyan Armenia, member of Supreme Soviet
1895 Wilhelm Kempff Juterbog Germany, pianist (Unterdem Zimbelstern)
1896 Virgil Thomson Kansas City MO, composer/music critic (4 Saints in 3 Acts)
1900 Helen Gahagan Douglas Nixon's 1st opponent
1901 Tibor Serly Losonc Hungary, violinist/composer (American Elegy)
1902 Eddie Shore Boston Bruins (#2), hall of famer
1914 Joe DiMaggio Yankee Clipper (56 game hitting streak)
1919 Steve Brodie Eldorado KS, actor (Life & Legend of Wyatt Earp)
1920 Ricardo Montalban actor (Fantasy Island, Star Trek II, Naked Gun)
1925 Jeffrey Hunter Orleans La, actor (Christopher Pike-Star Trek Cage)
1926 Murray Schisgal playwright (Luv)
1929 Jack Hogan Chapel Hill NC, actor (Combat, Adam 12, Sierra)
1933 Kathryn Grant Crosby Houston Texas, actress (Mr Cory, Big Circus)
1933 Lenny Moore NFL back (Baltimore Colts)
1933 Rene Enriquez San Francisco CA, actor (Ray Calletano-Hill Street Blues)
1935 Gloria Steinem Toledo Ohio, femnist/writer (Ms)
1938 Charles Starkwether serial murderer, with his 14-year-old girlfriend, Caril Ann Fugate, in 1958 they embarked on a shocking, murderous rampage that lasted eight days and left 11 dead bodies in its wake--including Caril Ann's family.
1939 Martin Feldstein economist (1977 John Bates Clark Medal)
1940 Richard Furrer Worgl Germany, astronaut (STS 22)
1942 Tracey Walter Jersey City NJ, actor (Best of the West)
1947 John Larroquette New Orleans LA, actor (Dan Fielding-Night Court)
1947 Jonathan Kaplan Paris France, director (Heart Like a Wheel)
1952 Ernest Harden Jr Detroit MI, actor (Marcus-Jeffersons)
1956 Liana Vicens Puerto Rico, 100m breaststroke (Olympics 1968)
1959 Steve Rothery rocker (Marillion-Real to Reel)
1960 Amy Grant gospel singer (Glory of Love, Baby Baby)
1960 John F Kennedy Jr lawyer, son of JFK
1961 Amy Gibson actress (General Hospital)
1966 Stacy Lattislaw disco singer (Million Dollar Baby)
1967 Curtis Baldwin Los Angeles CA, actor (Calvin-227)
1971 Christine Applegate Hollywood, actress (Kelly-Married With Children)



Deaths which occurred on November 25:
1240 Edmund Van Abingdon, archbishop of Canterbury/Saint, dies
1504 Isabella I, Catholic Queen of Castille & Aragon (1474-1504)
1885 Thomas A Hendricks 21st VP, dies at 66, 8 months after taking office
1943 Edward H "Butch" O'Hare, US pilot/lt-comdr (Chicago Airport named for him), dies in battle
1944 Kenesaw Landis baseball commisioner, dies
1949 Luther "Bill" Robinson famed tap dancer, dies at 71
1958 Charles F Kettering invented auto self-starter, dies at 82
1964 Clarence Kolb actor (Mr Honeywell-My Little Margie), dies at 90
1968 Phil Lord actor (Stud's Place), dies at 89
1973 Albert DiSalvo, Boston strangler, stabbed in prison
1974 U Thant UN Secretary-General (1961-72), dies in NY of cancer at 65
1977 Richard Carlson actor (Col MacKenzie-MacKenzie's Raiders), dies at 65
1981 Jack Albertson actor (Chico & the Man), dies at 74
1982 Robert Coote actor, dies in NYC of a heart attack at 73
1986 Scatman Crothers, singer/actor (Shining, Chico & The Man), dies at 76
1987 Harold Washington 1st black mayor of Chicago (D, 1983-87), dies at 65
1990 Bill Vukovich Indie 500 driver, dies in crash at 27
1991 Bill Graham rock promoter, dies



Reported: MISSING in ACTION

1966 GARDNER GLENN V.---SAN BERNARDINO CA.
[JUMPED OVERBOARD]
1966 NIEHOUSE DANIEL
L.
[04/12/67 ON PRG DIC LIST]
1967 ABRAMS LEWIS HERBERT---MONTCLAIR NJ.
[RADIO CONTACT LOST REMAINS RETURNED 06/26/97]
1967 HOLDEMAN ROBERT EUGENE---WINCHESTER IN.
[REMAINS RETURNED 06/26/97]
1967 MIDGETT DEWEY A.---CHESAPEAKE VA.
["ON PASS, ON WAY TO BEACH (AWOL)"]
1967 SEARFUS WILLIAM HENRY---LOS ANGELES CA.
1968 FRANCISCO SAN D.---BURBANK WA.
[VOICE CONTACT ON GROUND]
1968 MORRISON JOSEPH C.---LEXINGTON KY.
[VOICE CONTACT ON GROUND 11/92 - I.D'D IN PICTURES]
1968 STAMM ERNEST ALBERT---MEDFORD OR.
[03/13/74 REMAINS RETURNED]
1968 THUM RICHARD COBB---CLEVELAND HEIGHTS OH.
[09/30/77 REMAINS RETURNED BY SRV]
1971 THOMAS JAMES R.---FORT WALTON BEACH FL.

POW / MIA Data & Bios supplied by
the P.O.W. NETWORK. Skidmore, MO. USA.


On this day...
1357 Charles IV issues letter of protection of Jews of Strasbourg Alsace
1580 French Huguenots & Catholics sign peace treaty
1715 1st English patent granted to an American, for processing corn
1758 Britain captures Fort Duquesne (Pittsburgh)
1766 Pope Clement XIII warns On the dangers of anti-Christian writings
1783 Britain evacuates NY, their last military position in US
1805 The opera "Tha‹s" 1st American performance
1817 1st sword swallower in US performs (NYC)
1834 Delmonico's, one of NY's finest restaurants, provides a meal of soup, steak, coffee & half a pie for 12 cents
1841 35 Amistad survivors return to Africa
1863 Union ends the siege of Chattanooga with the Battle of Missionary Ridge.
1864 Confederate plot to burn NYC, fails
1867 Alfred Nobel invents dynamite
1884 John B Meyenberg of St Louis patents evaporated milk
1894 Greenback (Independent) Party organizes in Indianapolis
1897 Spain grants Puerto Rico autonomy
1908 Dorando Pietri (It) beats Johnny Hayes (US) in MSG marathon by 60 yards
1912 American College of Surgeons incorporates in Springfield, IL
1913 Woodrow Wilson's daughter Jessie marries in the White House
1914 German Field Marshal Fredrich von Hindenburg calls off the Lodz offensive 40 miles from Warsaw, Poland. The Russians lose 90,000 to the Germans' 35,000 in two weeks of fighting.(Now THIS is a quagmire!)
1920 WTAW of College Station, TX, broadcast 1st football play-by-play
1930 690 earthquake shocks recorded in 1 day (Ito Japan)
1933 1st Soviet liquid rocket attains altitude of 261' (80m)
1934 German theologian Karl Barth surrenders to Nazis
1940 Patria steamer sinks killing 200, outside of Haifa
1940 U of Michigan retires Tom Harmon's #98
1947 New Zealand accedes to Statute of Westminster, becomes a dominion
1948 Fort Funston's 16-inch coastal guns removed
1948 KING-TV, Seattle, goes on the air with 1st Pacific NW telecast
1950 China enters Korean conflict, sends troops across Yalu River launching a counter-offensive against soldiers from the United Nations, the United States and South Korea.
1951 17 die in a train crash in Woodstock AL
1951 Cleveland Browns penalized a record 209 yards against Chicago Bears
1952 Only win ever for NFL's Dallas Texans (11-1) beats Bears 27-23
1957 President Eisenhower suffers a mild stroke, impairing his speech
1958 Senegal becomes an autonomous state in the French Community
1960 1st atomic reactor for research & development, Richland Wa
1961 NBA's Bob Cousy becomes 2nd player to score 15,000 points
1963 JFK laid to rest at Arlington National Cemetery,
1966 Pirate Radio Station 390 (Radio Invicta) closes down (reopen 12/31)
1967 Cloudburst over Lisbon kills 450
1967 Puerto Rico placed on Atlantic Standard Time
1969 John Lennon returns his MBE
1973 Bloodless military coup ousts Greek President George Papadopoulos
1975 Federal jury finds ex-Manson groupie, Lynette ("Squeaky") Fromme, guilty of attempted assassination of President Ford
1975 Netherlands grants Surinam independence (National Day)
1976 OJ Simpson gains 273 yards for Buffalo vs Detroit
1976 Viking 1 radio signal from Mars help prove general theory of relativity
1977 David Steed balanced stationary on a bike for 9 hrs 15 mins
1978 Thomas Hearns KOs Jerome Hill in 2 rounds in his 1st pro fight
1978 American Airlines DC-10 crashes on takeoff from Chicago, kills 275
1980 Sugar Ray Leonard defeats Duran regains WBC welterweight championship
1983 Soyuz T-9 returns to Earth, 149 days after take-off
1983 Syria & Saudi Arabia announce cease-fire in PLO civil war in Tripoli
1983 World's greatest robbery-œ25,000,000 of gold, Heathrow, England
1984 William Schroeder, becomes 2nd to receive Jarvik-7 artificial heart
1986 Iran-Contra affair erupts, President Reagan reveals secret arm deal
1988 Chuck Berry pays $250 fine to resolve NYC assault charges
1988 Convention on exploitation of Antarctic mineral resources signed
1988 US & Soviet chess grand masters Donaldson & Akhmilovskaya wed
1988 Widespread earthquake hits NE US, Canada; no damage reported
1990 Lech Walesa wins in Poland's 1st popular election
1990 NFL's NY Giants & San Francisco 49ers after winning their 1st 10 games both lose, Phil Eagles beat Giants 31-13 & L.A. Rams beat 49ers 28-17
2000 Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris certified George W. Bush the winner over Al Gore in the state's presidential balloting by a 537-vote margin.




Holidays
Note: Some Holidays are only applicable on a given "day of the week"

Surinam : Independence Day (1975)
Mass : John F Kennedy Day (1963) (Sunday)
Bern Switzerland : Onion Market Day-autumn festival (Monday)
US : Thanksgiving (Thursday)
US : Farm City Week (Day 5)
US : Eating Disorders Week (Day 3)
Native American Heritage Month


Religious Observances
Ang : Commemoration of James Otis Sargent Huntington
RC : St Catherine, patron of maidens/mechanics/philosophers
Luth : Commemoration of Isaac Watts, hymn writer



Religious History
2348 _BC_ According to Archbishop James Ussher's Old Testament chronology, the Great Deluge ("Noah's Flood") began on this date.
1742 In New York, David Brainerd, 24, was approved as a missionary to the New England Indians by the Scottish Society for the Propagating of Christian Knowledge (SPCK). Brainerd worked heroically from Apr 1743 to Nov 1746, before advancing tuberculosis forced him to relinquish his work. (He died in October 1747.)
1807 Anglican missionary Henry Martyn wrote in his journal: 'With thee, O my God, there is no disappointment; I shall never have to regret that I loved thee too well.'
1820 English poet and Oxford Movement leader John Keble, 28, penned the words to the hymn, "Sun of My Soul" ("Sun of my soul, Thou Savior dear, It is not night if Thou be near....").
1864 British Jewish statesman Benjamin Disraeli declared in a speech: 'Man is a being born to believe, and if no church comes forward with all the title deeds of truth, he will find altars and idols in his own heart and his own imagination.'

Source: William D. Blake. ALMANAC OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH. Minneapolis: Bethany House, 1987.



Thought for the day :
"All generalizations are bad."


Question of the day....
Why is abbreviation such a long word ?


Murphys Law of the day...(Sattinger's Law)
It works better if you plug it in.


Amazing fact #397...
Naugahyde, was created in Naugatuck, Connecticut.
22 posted on 11/25/2003 7:28:14 AM PST by Valin (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
Good morning Colonel, we'll see you when we can. Meetings, ugh!
23 posted on 11/25/2003 7:29:40 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it
Good Morning Snippy.


24 posted on 11/25/2003 8:49:19 AM PST by SAMWolf (Free the Heinz 57.)
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To: E.G.C.
Good Morning E.G.C. Rain again today.
25 posted on 11/25/2003 8:49:52 AM PST by SAMWolf (Free the Heinz 57.)
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To: manna
Hi Manna!


26 posted on 11/25/2003 8:50:44 AM PST by SAMWolf (Free the Heinz 57.)
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To: SAMWolf
Awwwww. What a wonderful greeting this morning. Thank you SAM. I can almost smell it!
27 posted on 11/25/2003 8:52:40 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: The Mayor
Good Morning Mayor.
28 posted on 11/25/2003 8:53:27 AM PST by SAMWolf (Free the Heinz 57.)
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To: SCDogPapa
29 degress in South Carolina? That sounds un-American!
29 posted on 11/25/2003 8:54:54 AM PST by SAMWolf (Free the Heinz 57.)
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To: bentfeather
Morning Feather!
30 posted on 11/25/2003 8:56:51 AM PST by SAMWolf (Free the Heinz 57.)
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To: snippy_about_it
Good job! You learned something new, I keep forgetting that a lot of terms won't be familiar to people who don't read about this stuff all the time.

The obstacles were laid out similar to this on most of the possible landing beaches.

31 posted on 11/25/2003 9:00:11 AM PST by SAMWolf (Free the Heinz 57.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
Morning Colonel Flagg.

We finally scheduled the Pont du Hoc thread. It'll be just before Christmas.
32 posted on 11/25/2003 9:01:24 AM PST by SAMWolf (Free the Heinz 57.)
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To: Valin
1914 German Field Marshal Fredrich von Hindenburg calls off the Lodz offensive 40 miles from Warsaw, Poland. The Russians lose 90,000 to the Germans' 35,000 in two weeks of fighting.(Now THIS is a quagmire!)

All of WWI in Europe after 1914 was a quagmire. Thousand of lives wasted charging MG nests for no gain or to move the front a few yards forward at a time.

Battle of Passchendaele (third battle of Ypres)
31 July-6 November 1917

Allied dead and wounded at Passchendaele totalled 245,000, of which 66,000 were killed. The German casualties were probably 400,000. Allied plans to strike at German held territory beyond Passchendaele were postponed.

33 posted on 11/25/2003 9:11:33 AM PST by SAMWolf (Free the Heinz 57.)
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To: snippy_about_it
Figured with all the snow and rain reports we've been getting a nice rose would brighten the Foxhole up a little.
34 posted on 11/25/2003 9:12:35 AM PST by SAMWolf (Free the Heinz 57.)
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To: SAMWolf
I keep forgetting that a lot of terms won't be familiar to people who don't read about this stuff all the time.

That's what I'm here for, the resident Foxhole student. Do I get an A?

35 posted on 11/25/2003 9:20:30 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it
FYI, my old NG unit was at OMAHA beach that day. the Stonewallers (part of the 29th ID)

free dixie,sw

36 posted on 11/25/2003 9:23:19 AM PST by stand watie (Resistence to tyrants is obedience to God. ,T. Jefferson)
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To: Valin
Good morning Valin.
37 posted on 11/25/2003 9:23:48 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it
Yep!
38 posted on 11/25/2003 9:24:12 AM PST by SAMWolf (Free the Heinz 57.)
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To: bentfeather
GA, miss feather!

free the southland,sw

39 posted on 11/25/2003 9:25:07 AM PST by stand watie (Resistence to tyrants is obedience to God. ,T. Jefferson)
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Behind them was a great invasion armada and the powerful sinews of war. But in the first wave of assault troops of the 29th (Blue and Gray) Infantry Division, it was four rifle companies landing on a hostile shore at H-hour, D-Day -- 6:30 a.m., on June 6, 1944. The long-awaited liberation of France was underway. After long months in England, National Guardsmen from Virginia, Maryland and the District of Columbia found themselves in the vanguard of the Allied attack. In those early hours on the fire-swept beach the 116th Infantry Combat Team, the old Stonewall Brigade of Virginia, clawed its way through Les Moulins draw toward its objective, Vierville-sur-Mer. It was during the movement from Les Moulins that the battered but gallant 2d Battalion broke loose from the beach, clambered over the embankment, and a small party, led by the battalion commander, fought its way to a farmhouse which became its first Command post in France. The 116th suffered more than 800 casualties this day -- a day which will long be remembered as the beginning of the Allies' "Great Crusade" to rekindle the lamp of liberty and freedom on the continent of Europe.

40 posted on 11/25/2003 9:26:15 AM PST by SAMWolf (Free the Heinz 57.)
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