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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers The Battle of Glorieta Pass (March 26-29 1862) - Nov. 20th, 2003
National Park Service ^

Posted on 11/20/2003 12:00:45 AM PST by SAMWolf

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To: Darksheare
Hiya Darksheare, looks like you have your computer back up and running. LOL.

Is it all fixed now?
21 posted on 11/20/2003 6:03:06 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; radu; Darksheare; Colonel_Flagg; All

Good morning everyone!

22 posted on 11/20/2003 6:16:26 AM PST by Soaring Feather (I have a sword in my hand. I am a poet bentfeather)
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To: snippy_about_it
It's got more in commom with Frankenstein's monster at the moment than an actual computer.
But I do have it up and running at the moment.
!!!
Or is it running me?
23 posted on 11/20/2003 6:18:29 AM PST by Darksheare (You think I'm innocent, not wild. Take me and see how much I'm tamed.)
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To: bentfeather
Good morning feather.
24 posted on 11/20/2003 6:45:08 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Darksheare
LOL. I think our computers run us!
25 posted on 11/20/2003 6:45:36 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it
I think they do.
(That, and I'm one of those annoying types who HAS to have the most recent updates..)
26 posted on 11/20/2003 6:49:18 AM PST by Darksheare (You think I'm innocent, not wild. Take me and see how much I'm tamed.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; bentfeather
Good morning to all!

Sam and Snippy, you should already have heard from me by Freepmail this morning. Today I marvel at how God truly does work in mysterious ways.

Thank you for the thread, as always. I hope you are doing well.

27 posted on 11/20/2003 6:57:12 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Beware of the fury of the patient man." - John Dryden)
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To: SAMWolf
On This Day In History


Birthdates which occurred on November 20:
1602 Otto von Guericke inventor (air pump)
1620 Peregrine White son of William & Susanna White, born aboard Mayflower
1726 Oliver Wolcott (Ct-Gov), signed Declaration of Independence
1752 Thomas Chatterton English poet (Christabel)
1761 Pius VIII 253rd Roman Catholic pope (1829-30)
1841 Sir Wilfrid Laurier (L) 7th Canadian PM (1896-1911)
1858 Selma Lagerlof Sweden, novelist (Tales of a Manor-Nobel 1909)
1866 Kenesaw Mountain Landis judge/1st commissioner of baseball
1869 Clark Griffith Missouri, baseball player/manager (NY Yankees)
1884 Norman Thomas Marion Ohio, socialist (presidential candidate 1928-48)
1886 Karl von Frisch zoologist/bee expert (Nobel 1973)
1889 Edwin Hubble astronomer (discoverer of galaxies, red shift)
1891 Leon Cadore pitcher (pitched all of 26 inning game)
1900 Chester Gould cartoonist (gave Dick Tracy a job)
1907 Fran Allison LaPorte City Iowa, actress (Kukla, Fran & Ollie)
1908 Alistair Cooke Manchester England, actor (Masterpiece Theatre)
1909 Alan Bible (Sen-D-NV, 1954-74)
1910 Pauli Murray famous African
1911 Jean Shiley US, high jumper (Olympic-gold-1932)
1914 Emilio Pucci Naples, fashion designer (Neiman-Marcus Award-1954)
1915 Kon Ichikawa Japan, director (Matatabi, Money Talks)
1916 Judy Canova Jacksonville FL, comedienne/actress (Cannonball)
1916 Robert A Bruce MD, pioneer (exercise cardiology)
1917 Robert Byrd (D-Sen-WV) majority leader
1918 Dora Ratjen Germany, man posing as woman high jumper (Oly-4th-1936)
1919 Evelyn Keyes actress (Adventure of Martin Eden)
1920 Douglas Dick Charlestown WV, actor (Carl-Waterfront)
1920 Gene Tierney Brooklyn, actress (Laura, Razor's Edge, Ghost & Mrs Muir)
1921 Phyllis Thaxter Portland Maine, actress (Nora, Fort Worth)
1923 Beryl Sprinkel Missouri, economist (Council of Economic Advisers)
1923 Nadine Gordimer South Africa, actress/writer (Lying Days)
1924 Benoit Mandelbrot Warsaw Poland, mathematician (proved Zipf's law)
1925 Maya Plisetkaya prima ballerina (Bolshoi Ballet)
1925 Robert Francis Kennedy Brookline MA (D-Sen-NY) AG; assassinated
1926 Kaye Ballard Cleveland Ohio, actress/comedienne (Kaye-Mothers-in-Law)
1927 Estelle Parsons Lynn MA, actress (Rachel Rachel, Bonnie & Clyde)
1928 Franklin Cover Cleveland, actor (Tom-The Jeffersons)
1928 Rex Reason Berlin Germany, actor (Man Without a Gun, Roaring 20s)
1929 Dick Clark Mt Vernon NY, TV host (American Bandstand)
1929 Kenneth DeWitt Schermerhorn Schenectady NY, conductor (American Ballet)
1932 Richard Dawson Hampshire England, actor (Hogan's Heroes, Family Feud)
1934 Valentine J Peter Omaha NB, priest (Boy's Town 1985- )
1937 Eero Muntyranta Finland, nordic ski relay (Olympic-gold-1960)
1937 Jack Linkletter San Francisco CA, TV host (Haggis Baggis, Hootenanny)
1937 Ruth Laredo (nee Meckler) Detroit MI, concert pianist
1939 Dick Smothers NYC, comedian (Smother Brothers' Show)
1940 Bob Einstein Los Angeles CA, comedian (Officer Judy, Super Dave Osborne)
1941 Gary Karr Los Angeles CA, double-bassist (Oslo Philharmonic)
1942 Joseph R Biden Jr (D-Sen-Del)
1942 Norman Greenbaum Massachusetts, folk singer (Spirit in the Sky)
1943 Veronica Hamel Philadelphia PA, actress (Joyce-Hill St Blues)
1944 Anthea Stewart Zimbabwe, field hockey coach/player (Olympic-1980)
1946 Duane Allman rocker (Allman Brothers-Jessica, Ramblin' Man)
1946 Judy Woodruff newscaster (McNeil Lehrer Report)
1947 Joe Walsh Wichita KS, guitarist/rocker (Eagles-Take it Easy)
1948 Richard Masur NYC, actor (David-One Day at a Time)
1948 Samuel E Wright Camden SC, actor (Enos, Ball Four)
1949 Juha Mieto Finland, 15KM skier (Olympic-silver-1980)
1949 Ray Vitte NYC, actor (Doc, Cody-Quest)
1954 Steve Dahl California, Chicago's anti-disco DJ (WLS-FM)
1956 Bo Derek Long Beach Cal, actress (10, Tarzan the Ape Man)
1956 Mark Gastineau NFL end (NY Jets, Pro Bowl 1981-85)
1959 Sean Young Louisville KY, actress (Dune, Young Doctor in Love)
1964 Ned Vaughn actor (The Rescuer)
1965 Mike D [Diamond], rocker (Beastie Boys-You Gotta Fight)
1967 Jeff Cotler Long Beach CA, actor (Brian-Struck by Lightning)
1974 Marisa Ryan actress (Major Dad)



Deaths which occurred on November 20:
0967 Aboe al-Faradj al-Isfahani, Arabic author (Book of liederen), dies
1527 Wendelmoet "Weyntjen" Claesdochter, 1st Dutch woman burned as heretic
1910 Leo Tolstoy Russia, author (Anna Karenina), dies at 82
1962 Jasper McLevy socialist mayor of Bridgeport CT, dies
1968 Cathy Lewis actress (Deidre-Hazel), dies at 50
1973 Allan Sherman songwriter ("Camp Granada"), dies
1975 Gen Francisco Franco Spain's dictator, dies in Madrid at 82
1983 Marcel Dalio actor (Casablanca), dies at 83
1983 Richard Loo actor, dies of cardio-pulmonary arrest
1985 Bill Scott cartoon voice (Mr Peabody, Bullwinkle), dies at 65
1995 Sergei Grinkov Soviet ice skater (Olympic Gold 1988.1994) dies (heart attack ?) at 28



Reported: MISSING in ACTION

1967 BUTLER WILLIAM W.---LOS ANGELES CA.
[03/14/73 RELEASED BY DRV, ALIVE AND WELL 98]
1967 CRINER NORBERT B.
[03/73 RELEASED BY DRV]
1967 MARTIN JOHN M.---GLENSHAW PA
1969 BALDRIDGE JOHN ROBERT JR.---MEMPHIS TN.
1969 RENELT WALTER A.---WILMOT SD.
1972 BREUER DONALD C.---NEW YORK NY

POW / MIA Data & Bios supplied by
the P.O.W. NETWORK. Skidmore, MO. USA.


On this day...
269 Diocletian is proclaimed emperor of Numerian in Asia Minor by his soldiers. He had been the commander of the emperor's bodyguard.
1272 Edward I proclaimed King of England
1616 Bishop Richelieu becomes French minister of Foreign affairs/War
1637 Peter Minuit & 1st Swedish immigrants to Delaware sail from Sweden(Peter later purchased Manhattan Island for 60 guilders)
1780 Britain declares war on Holland
1789 New Jersey becomes 1st state to ratify Bill of Rights
1805 The opera "Fidelio" is produced (Vienna)
1829 Jews are expelled from Russia's Nikolayev & Sevastopol
1862 Confederate army of Tennessee, organizes under Gen Braxton Bragg
1866 1st national convention of Grand Army of the Republic (veterans' organization)
1866 Howard University founded (Wash, DC)
1866 Pierre Lalemont patents rotary crank bicycle
1873 Rival cities of Buda & Pest unite to form the capital of Hungary
1888 William Bundy patents the timecard clock
1890 Pope Leo XIII encyclical On slavery in the missions
1894 US intervenes in Bluefields, Nicaragua
1903 In Cheyenne, Wyoming, 42-year-old hired gunman Tom Horn is hanged for the murder of 14-year-old Willie Nickell.
1910 Revolution broke out in Mexico, led by Francisco I Madero
1914 US State Department starts requiring photographs for passports
1917 Ukrainian Republic declared
1919 1st municipally owned airport in US opens in Tucson, Az
1928 WGH-AM in Newport News VA begins radio transmissions
1931 Commercial teletype service begins
1938 1st documented anti-Semitic remarks over US radio (by Father Coughlin)
1942 NHL abolishes regular season OT until WW II is over
1943 US forces land on Tarawa & Makin Atoll in the Gilbert Island
1945 24 Nazi leaders put on trial at Nuremberg, Germany
1947 "Meet the Press" makes network TV debut on NBC
1947 1st permanent TV installed on seagoing vessel (The New Jersey)
1947 Britain's Princess Elizabeth, marries Duke Philip Mountbatten
1947 UN General assembly begins debate on printing their own stamps
1953 Scott Crossfield in Douglas Skyrocket, 1st to break Mach 2 (1300 MPH)
1959 UN adopts the declaration of children's rights
1962 US lifts blockade of Cuba
1966 Dallas sacks Pittsburgh QBs an NFL record 12 times
1967 At 11 AM, Census Clock at Department of Commerce ticks past 200 million
1969 Pele scores his 1,000th soccer goal
1974 The United States files an antitrust suit to break up ATT.
1975 Ronald Reagan announced his candidacy for the 1976 Republican presidential nomination. He lost to incumbent Gerald Ford.
1976 George Harrison appears on Saturday Night Live
1977 Egyptian President Sadat became 1st Arab leader to address Israeli Knesset
1977 Walter Payton (Bears) rushes for NFL-record 275 yards, against Minn Vikings
1980 Billy Martin named AL Manager of the Year (Oakland A's)
1980 Steve Ptacek in Solar Challenger makes 1st solar-powered flight
1980 UA withdraws $44 million movie "Heaven's Gate" for reediting
1981 Anatoly Karpov, USSR retains world chess championship
1981 Ringo releases "Stop & Smell the Roses" album
1983 100 million watch ABC-TV movie "The Day After," about nuclear war
1983 Cleveland Browns shutout Patriots 30-0
1983 NY Giants Butch Woolfolk ties NFL record of 43 attempts rushing
1985 Yankee Don Mattingly named AL MVP
1986 UN's WHO announces 1st global effort to combat AIDS
1990 Thatcher fails to defeat Heseltine's bid for party leadership
1990 US 68th manned space mission STS 38 (Atlantis 7) returns from space
1991 California Democrat Alan Cranston accepted a Senate reprimand for his dealings with former savings-and-loan chief Charles H. Keating Jr., but then denied he was guilty of many of the allegations, prompting an angry rebuttal by New Hampshire Republican Warren B. Rudman.
2000 Lawyers for Al Gore and George W. Bush battled before the Florida Supreme Court over whether the presidential election recount should be allowed to continue.



Holidays
Note: Some Holidays are only applicable on a given "day of the week"

Mexico : Revolution Day (1910)
World : Rights of the Child Day
US : National Children's Book Week Begins (Monday)
US : Great American Smoke Out (smoke em if you got em)
US : National Geography Awareness Week (Day 5)
Religion and Philosophy Month



Religious Observances
Ang : Commemoration of Edmund
RC : Commemoration of St Felix of Valois, confessor



Religious History
1541 In Switzerland, French reformer John Calvin, 32, established a theocratic government at Geneva, thereby creating a home base for emergent Protestantism throughout Europe.
1572 The first Presbyterian meeting house in England was established at Wandsworth, Surrey.
1850 Blind Fanny Crosby underwent a dramatic spiritual conversion at age 30. Fifteen years later, she began writing her first of over 8,000 hymns texts. Many of these remain popular today, including "Rescue the Perishing," "Jesus, Keep Me Near the Cross," "All the Way My Savior Leads Me" and "Tell Me the Story of Jesus."
1872 The hymn penned by Annie Sherwood Hawks, 36 __ "I Need Thee Every Hour" __ was first sung at a National Baptist Sunday School Convention in Cincinnati, Ohio.
1961 The Russian Orthodox Church joined the World Council of Churches.

Source: William D. Blake. ALMANAC OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH. Minneapolis: Bethany House, 1987.


Thought for the day :
"Freedom has a thousand charms to show, that slaves, however content, will never know."


Question of the day...
Whos idea was it to put an "S" in the word "LISP"?



Murphys Lawe of the day...
Every solution breeds new problems.


Astoundingly incredible mind blowing fact #76,038.....
Tigars have striped skin, not just striped fur.
28 posted on 11/20/2003 7:06:08 AM PST by Valin (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
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To: Darksheare
Two words, Ballpeen hammer. It worked for me once.
29 posted on 11/20/2003 7:09:42 AM PST by Valin (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
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To: Valin
Tesla coil discharge, works wonders.
But my hair won't stay down now.
30 posted on 11/20/2003 7:15:51 AM PST by Darksheare (You think I'm innocent, not wild. Take me and see how much I'm tamed.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; colorado tanker
A companion battle (2 weeks later) was fought north and west of Tucson, Arizona. Here's a link to a description of the Battle of Picacho Pass, fought on April 15, 1862.

This is a view of a trail going up between the two spires that define Picacho Peak. The peak is a volcanic neck, all that remains of an ancient volcano.

The author of this article postulates that the locals weren't very particular about whose army claimed the territory as long as they promised to keep the Apaches at bay!

31 posted on 11/20/2003 7:31:18 AM PST by HiJinx (Go with Courage, go with Honor, go in God's Grace. Come home when the job's done. We'll be here.)
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To: radu
Good Morning Radu.
32 posted on 11/20/2003 7:35:08 AM PST by SAMWolf (100,000 lemmings can't be wrong.)
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To: snippy_about_it
Good Morning Snippy.
33 posted on 11/20/2003 7:35:25 AM PST by SAMWolf (100,000 lemmings can't be wrong.)
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To: E.G.C.
Morning E.G.C. Most of the snow is alrady gone. Lost some big branches off our Doug Fir, at least they didin't hit anything on the way down and my wifes Lilac Bush split in half. Unfortunately, when we do get snow it's the real heavy, wet stuff and it tears up the bushes and tress.
34 posted on 11/20/2003 7:37:27 AM PST by SAMWolf (100,000 lemmings can't be wrong.)
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To: snippy_about_it
They didn't even cover many of the battles in the "west" and that includes Kansas, etc in school. You'd never know there was fighting there.
35 posted on 11/20/2003 7:40:00 AM PST by SAMWolf (100,000 lemmings can't be wrong.)
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To: manna
Hi Manna!


36 posted on 11/20/2003 7:40:37 AM PST by SAMWolf (100,000 lemmings can't be wrong.)
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To: SAMWolf
Hey, SAM!
37 posted on 11/20/2003 7:42:31 AM PST by manna
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To: aomagrat
Morning aomagrat. Just how many ships did we scrap under the London Naval treaty?
38 posted on 11/20/2003 7:43:03 AM PST by SAMWolf (100,000 lemmings can't be wrong.)
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To: The Mayor
Hi Mayor.
39 posted on 11/20/2003 7:43:20 AM PST by SAMWolf (100,000 lemmings can't be wrong.)
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To: SCDogPapa
Hi SCDogPapa.

Most of the history we learned concentrated on the East or the Mississippi River Campaign. Until I did the thread on Olustee, I didn't know there was any major fighting in Florida.
40 posted on 11/20/2003 7:45:55 AM PST by SAMWolf (100,000 lemmings can't be wrong.)
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