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The FReeper Foxhole Studies Operation BOLO and the Birth of the Wolf Pack - November 3rd, 2003
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Posted on 11/03/2003 12:00:27 AM PST by SAMWolf

Lord,
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Give them victory over the enemy...
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Bless those who mourn the lost. .
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Operation Bolo - Mig Sweep
Robin Olds and Birth of the Wolf Pack
The North Vietnamese thought they were attacking bomb-laden F-105s. What they ran into was Robin Olds and the Wolfpack, flying Phantom F-4s.
Mig Sweep By Walter J. Boyne
On Jan. 2, 1967, with aircraft losses in Southeast Asia on the rise, the United States Air Force resorted to an elaborate combat sting. The mission, called Operation Bolo, constituted an electronic Trojan Horse concealing the hard-hitting F-4 Phantoms of USAF's 8th Tactical Fighter Wing within a radiated image that simulated bomb-laden F-105 Thunderchiefs.
Despite adverse weather and a few surprises, the "MiG Sweep" did what it was designed to do: trick the increasingly elusive MiG-21s of North Vietnam into engaging F-4s rigged for aerial combat.
Until the latter part of 1966, MiG aircraft had not been as great a threat to USAF strike forces as the Surface-to-Air Missiles and anti-aircraft fire. Ironically enough, the introduction of the QRC-160 (ALQ-71) electronics countermeasures pod on the F-105s changed this. The QRC-160 was effective in neutralizing the radar controlling the SAMs and flak, and the resilient North Vietnamese responded by increasing their use of MiG fighters to prey on vulnerable F-105s configured for bombing.
Operating under ground control, and making maximum use of both cloud cover and the almost benevolent American rules of engagement, the enemy aircraft were adroitly employed. The MiGs, especially the later model MiG-21s armed with heat-seeking missiles, sought to attack the strike flights and make them jettison their bomb loads prior to reaching the target areas. Their mission was fulfilled if the Thuds were forced to drop their bombs prematurely, but they tried to score kills wherever possible.
 The MiG-21 was a short-range day fighter-interceptor and the first major production version of the popular MiG-21 series. The aircraft pictured here is painted and marked as a MiG-21PF of the North Vietnamese Air Force during the Vietnam War. USAF Museum photograph.
The air war in Southeast Asia, while unique in many respects, harkened back to earlier conflicts in terms of the relative missions, forces, and equipment. As in World War II and Korea, the mission of US forces was to obtain air superiority, destroy the enemy air forces, and conduct long-range bombing operations. The mission of the enemy forces was to defend their most important targets by choosing to engage the American bombers on a selective basis.
Thud, Phantom, Thud
There were other parallels. To achieve the air superiority mission, the American fighters had to have a long-range capability and still be able to defeat the enemy fighters over their own territory. What the Mustangs and Sabres did in their wars, the F-4 Phantom II was required to do in Southeast Asia. Flights of F-4s, carrying a mixed ordnance load of bombs and missiles, would be sandwiched in between Thud flights at four- or five-minute intervals. If the F-105s in front or behind were attacked, the F-4s would drop their bombs and try to engage. If they were not, the F-4s would drop bombs right along with the Thuds.
A final, tragic parallel is the price paid to execute the missions that were often laid on for statistical rather than tactical reasons. Flying Phantoms or Thuds was dangerous work. As a single example, by late 1967, more than 325 F-105s had been lost over North Vietnam, most to SAMs and anti-aircraft fire.
The North Vietnamese air force consisted of slow but heavily armed and maneuverable MiG-17s and a handful of modern delta-wing MiG-21s. The MiG-17s were semiobsolete but still effective in their defensive role. (The MiG-19 did not enter service with the North Vietnamese air force until February 1969.)
The MiG-21 Fishbed was roughly half the size of the Phantom and was designed as a high-speed, limited all-weather interceptor. It could carry two cannons and two Atoll infrared homing air-to-air missiles which had been developed from the US AIM-9B Sidewinder. At altitude, the MiG-21 could outfly the F-4 in almost all flight regimes. It had spectacular acceleration and turning capability.
At lower altitudes, the F-4s used their colossal energy in vertical maneuvers that offset the MiGs' turning capability, for they lost energy quickly in turns at low altitudes. The MiG-21s were operated under tight ground control. They typically sought to stalk American formations from the rear, firing a missile and then disengaging. If engaged, however, its small size and tight turning ability made the MiG-21 a formidable opponent in a dogfight.
 MIG 21 Fishbed
The Phantom had been intended originally to be a fleet defense aircraft, but it proved to be versatile in many roles, including reconnaissance, Fast Forward Air Control, Wild Weasel, bombing, and air superiority. The F-4Cs were armed only with missiles, although gun pods could be fitted.
The air war in Southeast Asia had grown progressively intense, and Dec. 2, 1966, became known as "Black Friday" when the Air Force lost five aircraft and the Navy three to SAMs or anti-aircraft fire. Air Force losses included three F-4Cs, one RF-4C, and an F-105. The Navy lost one F-4B and two Douglas A-4C Skyhawks.
These ground-fire losses were accompanied by the marked increase in MiG activity during the last quarter of 1966. Because the rules of engagement prohibited airfield attacks, the men of the 8th Tactical Fighter Wing were determined to blunt the enemy's efforts by luring the MiGs into air-to-air combat and then destroying them.
The reluctance of the MiG-21s to engage did not mean that the North Vietnamese pilots were lacking in either courage or skill. At the time, the US estimated that there were only 16 MiG-21s in the theater, and the enemy had to employ them selectively to maximize their utility.
The New Boy
Brig. Gen. Robin Olds, USAF (Ret.), recalls himself as the proverbial "new boy on the block" with the 8th TFW, as yet unproven in the jet air war of Southeast Asia. When he arrived at Ubon RTAB, Thailand, as a colonel, to assume command of the Wolfpack on Sept. 30, 1966, Olds, who was 44 and stood six feet two, struck some as more the Hollywood concept of a combat commander than an Air Force regular officer. This was, at least in part, because he was married not to the girl next door but to film star Ella Raines.
Son of Maj. Gen. Robert Olds, one of the most influential generals in the Army Air Corps, the new commander of the 8th was a World War II ace. Olds would later remark that he never flew one mission over Germany that was as tough as any mission over Hanoi.
Olds' war-ace status was marred somewhat by a reputation for being a maverick. Olds had often argued forcefully against contemporary Air Force training. He was an outspoken advocate of intensive training in the arts of war he learned in Europe. Unable to wangle his way into the Korean conflict, he had continued to press for training in strafing, dive-bombing, and other conventional warfare techniques at a time when US fighters were being adapted to carry nuclear weapons and fight a nuclear war. His advice, though not well received, was a realistic forecast of what would be required for war in Southeast Asia.
Olds knew he would have to prove himself to the combat-hardened veterans of the 8th as a leader in their war. He wished to use his past beliefs in a plan that would confirm his present status. He had first presented his idea for a MiG ambush to Gen. Hunter Harris Jr., Pacific Air Forces commander. Harris ignored him. Olds next went to the commander of 7th Air Force, Gen. William W. "Spike" Momyer. It was in early December 1966, at a cocktail party in the Philippines, that Olds edged next to Momyer. After a few polite remarks, Olds said, "Sir, the MiGs are getting pesky" and went on to describe ways to bring them to battle. Momyer's expression of deep disinterest didn't change. He moved away, leaving Olds with the uncomfortable impression that he had blown a good opportunity.
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To: snippy_about_it
Good Morning, Happy Monday
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posted on
11/03/2003 5:52:42 AM PST
by
The Mayor
(Through prayer, finite man draws upon the power of the infinite God.)
To: SAMWolf
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posted on
11/03/2003 6:09:44 AM PST
by
Valin
(We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
To: SAMWolf
So the story goes on how the Soviets obtained the Atoll, their copy of our Sidewinder.
I don't remember which base in Germany, but two of their agents drove on it in a Volkswagon bug. They went right out on the flight live and took the Sidewinder missile off a plane. They couldn't get the missle completely in the bug and had to have it sticking out of the window. One of the agents took off his coat and wrapped it around the end of the missile that was sticking out of the window and then they proceded to drive out of the main gate of the base.
I saw my first Atoll at the EOD school in Indianhead and the only difference between that and a Sidewinder was the paint job. Of course the suspension lugs and electrical hook ups were configured Soviet style. The rest was a perfect match.
We first got our hands on an Atoll when one hit a Navy aircraft and didn't detonate. The pilot flew back to his carrier with this missle stuck in him and landed. Then the EOD team on the carrier disarmed and removed the missile (perhaps while the aircraft crew were changing their underware). Anyway, we had us an Atoll to study.
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posted on
11/03/2003 6:18:43 AM PST
by
U S Army EOD
(Just plain Wootten)
To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; radu; Darksheare; Samwise; All

Good morning everyone!
To: Iris7
Good Morning Iris7. Nice to see ya again.


Richard G. Dick Rutan
Born with aviation fuel in his body instead of blood is how Richard G. Dick Rutans mother describes her eldest son who would later co-pilot the first aircraft to circumnavigate the globe non-stop, without refueling. Rutan was born in 1938 in Loma Linda, California, and has loved aviation since he was a child.
While in high school, he fell in love with the speed and power of the North American F-100 Super Sabre and got his pilots license on his 16th birthday. In 1958, he joined the US Air Force Aviation Cadet Program, became a second lieutenant, earned navigator wings, and was assigned to Iceland to fly the Northrop F-89 Scorpion. He next flew the Douglas C-124 Globemaster and, after logging 1,900 hours as a navigator, entered pilot training. Rutan was the top graduate of his class at Laughlin AFB, Texas, and in 1967 fulfilled his dream to fly the F-100.
He was soon sent to South Vietnam to fly ground attack missions, but quickly volunteered to become a forward air controller (FAC) in the Commando Sabre program. As a Misty FAC, he flew 325 F-100 missions over North Vietnam. Rutan was shot down midway through his third tour in 1968.
Returning from Vietnam, he spent the next 10 years stationed in Europe and at Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio, and Davis-Monthan AFB, Arizona. He retired in 1978 as a lieutenant colonel and began flight testing and demonstrating at air shows his brothers high performance home-built aircraft. In 1980, he met Jeana Yeager and a year later, their dream of flying around the world began to take shape. They founded Voyager Aircraft, Inc. and, to raise money and generate publicity, Rutan set several aircraft speed and endurance records.
In 1981, he set a distance record of 4,563 statute miles for an aircraft weighing less than 1,000 kilograms. The following year, he set a closed course speed record for both 500 and 2,000 kilometers. Rutan was awarded the 1982 Louis Blériot Medal for his aviation records. On 1 June 1984, after three years of work, Rutan soloed the Voyager on its maiden flight. Then, on 14 December 1986, after two years refining the Voyager, Rutan and Yeager lifted off from Edwards AFB, California, on their epic flight. Nine days later, they returned to Edwards AFB to complete the first nonstop, unrefueled, around-the-world flight of 26,700 statute miles. Rutan was awarded a Presidential Citizens Medal, the Collier Trophy, the Order of Daedalians Distinguished Achievement Award, and was inducted into the National Aviation Hall of Fame in July 2002.
He is currently testing the EZ Rocket, a composite experimental aircraft designed to demonstrate commercial uses of rocket-powered aircraft, and is planning to set an altitude world record later this year.
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11/03/2003 7:22:04 AM PST
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SAMWolf
(I'm immortal - so far.)
To: E.G.C.
Morning E.G.C.
Chilly here this morning. Very thin layer of ice on the birdbath and frost on the grass.
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11/03/2003 7:23:42 AM PST
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SAMWolf
(I'm immortal - so far.)
To: snippy_about_it
Prior to reading about this I had no idea there were restrictions on bombing their airfields. Sickening. THere were all kinds of restrictions. Certain targets were "off limits", planes were required to fly certain "ait lanes", the air war (even target selection) was pretty much being run by politicians (read Johnston) in Washington.
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11/03/2003 7:26:23 AM PST
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SAMWolf
(I'm immortal - so far.)
To: CholeraJoe
Morning Cholera Joe. Snippy found a good subject today. Gotta love American ingenuity.
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posted on
11/03/2003 7:28:24 AM PST
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SAMWolf
(I'm immortal - so far.)
To: The Mayor
Morning Mayor.
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posted on
11/03/2003 7:29:27 AM PST
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SAMWolf
(I'm immortal - so far.)
To: SAMWolf
Mornin' Sam! Nice, informative post today. Have a good day!
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posted on
11/03/2003 7:29:27 AM PST
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SCDogPapa
(In Dixie Land I'll take my stand to live and die in Dixie)
To: manna
Hi Manna!
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posted on
11/03/2003 7:30:09 AM PST
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SAMWolf
(I'm immortal - so far.)
To: SAMWolf
Hi SAM!
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posted on
11/03/2003 7:33:34 AM PST
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manna
To: Valin
1918 Poland proclaims independence from Russia after WW I
In 1918, after 123 years of partition, Poland regained its independence. The immediate military task was forming a new national army from soldiers and officers who had fought on both sides--although officers who had served on the side of the Central Powers dominated the new army. In the territorial uncertainty that followed the war, the Red Army pushed westward, aiming to use Poland as a bridge over which to spread socialism into postwar Germany. Pilsudski blocked this advance in 1919; then in 1920 he advanced eastward with the goal of including Ukrainian and Belorussian territory in a new Slavic state. Polish forces were thrown back nearly to Warsaw, where Pilsudski defeated the Soviets and began an effective counterattack that preserved Poland's independence from Soviet domination in the interwar period.
Pilsudski's military and political prominence ensured that the armed forces became an important national institution in the new government. Many Poles saw the army as both the symbol and the guarantor of their country's independence and unity. In 1926, after Poland had experienced several years of political uncertainty and weak leadership, Pilsudski took over the state in a military coup, assuming the posts of minister of defense and general inspector of the army. In the interwar period, military officers held prominent positions in the national government, and their elevated status fostered intense political and personal rivalries as well as high-level corruption. After Pilsudski's death in 1935, Poland was ruled ineffectually by a group of his former subordinates, who remained in power until 1939.
After World War I, Polish national security rested on a military alliance with france, which guaranteed Poland's independence and territorial integrity. Poland was unsuccessful in joining the Little Entente, a french-sponsored alliance of Czechoslovakia, Romania, and Yugoslavia, because Czechoslovakia suspected Polish territorial ambitions along their mutual border. In protecting its sovereignty during this period, Poland had as its primary concerns maintaining a balance between its two powerful neighbors, Germany and the Soviet Union, and avoiding a situation where the two would take concerted action against Poland and divide it once again.
france couldn't ensure her own national security and never had any intention of securing Poland's. Hopefully Poland learned never to trust the french with their security again. Stay out of the EU or lose your soveriegnty.
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posted on
11/03/2003 7:39:53 AM PST
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SAMWolf
(I'm immortal - so far.)
To: Valin
Thanks for the link Valin.
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posted on
11/03/2003 7:43:29 AM PST
by
SAMWolf
(I'm immortal - so far.)
To: U S Army EOD
Morning EOD.
If it wasn't so serious, that's an amusing story. Sometimes the best way is the the easiest and least expected.
A lot of the Soviet equipment was a "copy" of US equipment.
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posted on
11/03/2003 7:46:31 AM PST
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SAMWolf
(I'm immortal - so far.)
To: bentfeather
Morning Feather
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posted on
11/03/2003 7:47:03 AM PST
by
SAMWolf
(I'm immortal - so far.)
To: U S Army EOD
I don't remember which base in Germany, but two of their agents drove on it in a Volkswagon bug. They went right out on the flight live and took the Sidewinder missile off a plane.
You've got to be kidding right. I spent 4 years as a Security Policeman and a find this hard to believe.
No flame intended.
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posted on
11/03/2003 7:50:36 AM PST
by
Valin
(We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
To: SAMWolf
After World War I, Polish national security rested on a military alliance with france, which guaranteed Poland's independence and territorial integrity.
If memory serves that didn't work out real good for them.
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posted on
11/03/2003 7:52:47 AM PST
by
Valin
(We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
To: Valin
If memory serves that didn't work out real good for themYou got that right!
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posted on
11/03/2003 7:58:48 AM PST
by
SAMWolf
(I'm immortal - so far.)
To: Valin
Well, someone walked off of Fort Sill with an M203 back in 1996.
The guy who the weapon was assigned to spent (is still spending?) time in Levinworth over it.
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posted on
11/03/2003 8:22:34 AM PST
by
Darksheare
(DemUn, justification for exorcism.)
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