A new perspective on the 2nd Amendment - clarity

A Century of Lawmaking ^ | 12-03-2015 | Founders, j argese

[j.argese]

"Chatting" with a FB friend and discussing the 2nd. Send me to wikipedia for a quick view and noticed the following:

"There are actually two different versions: As passed by the Congress and preserved in the National Archives, with the rest of the original hand-written copy of the Bill of Rights prepared by scribe William Lambert:[29] (p)

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, then-Secretary of State:[30]

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Notice the difference? You should. The first has that nasty "double comma" that makes it so difficult for Constitutional scholars to interpret. The second, a single comma, that provides clarity. It takes away the cudgel the Progressive Left has beaten the American citizenry over the head with for decades.

I went to the footnote 30 link to find this:

memory.loc.gov

If someone else knows better how to post the image of the page, that would be great.

[muir_redwoods]

Thanks for signing your reply.

Maybe if you could get your head out of that warm dark place where you keep it, could you quote me from any of my responses where I say regulation of anything is okay?

As a grammatical fact, in the wording of either version of the amendment, (presently the point of discussion in this thread) the object (that’s a grammatical term with a real meaning) of the word “regulated” is the militia. I know careful reading is tough for you but try anyway, it’s been a continual source of amusement for me, bless your little heart

[elteemike]

“A well-balanced breakfast, being essential to a healthy life, the right of The People to store and eat food, shall not be infringed.”

Who has the right to food? The well-balanced breakfast, or The People?

[teeman8r]

Your post thirteen your concession that they “might” be able to regulate militias, the militia is the people... Permitting regulation of them is a ban to us... Enjoy your time as a gun grabber... You wear the brown shirt well.

[ravenwolf]

I believe it is only something a college trained government employee or a politican would even think about.

It is like Jesus said about people who would swallow whales and choke on knats, he was talking about these same people.

But i see what you mean.

[RAY]

We have a governing system of “checks and balances.” Hence, as a check against our standing central government's military forces, necessary to protect from foreign threats, our citizens are armed.

[SandRat]

That includes, Sabers, Swords, Archery Bows, Combat Knives, spears, etc,.

[lizma2]

“INDIVIDUAL’s right to bear arms be infringed for any purpose.”

Amen.

Joseph Story, the youngest member of SCOTUS, wrote “Commentaries on the Constitution”. He did one on the 2nd.

Three reason for the second.

Protect our border (happened during WWII),

Protect our property. (Think Rodney King riots and guns on roof tops.)

Protect our country from an evil government.

[Campion]

A “well-regulated militia” is 18th terminology for a militia that is able to practice and drill on their own, implying that they have their own weapons with which to do that.

[Campion]

A “well-regulated militia” is 18th century terminology for a militia that is able to practice and drill on their own, implying that they have their own weapons with which to do that.

[Repeal The 17th]

Go here:
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constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/full-text
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Search for the word "militia".
You will find the word used 4 times (plus twice in the bill of rights):

Article I-Section 8: Powers of Congress
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union,
suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia,
and for governing such Part of them as may be employed
in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively,
the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia
according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

Article II-Section 2
The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army
and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States,
when called into the actual Service of the United States;

Second Amendment
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Fifth Amendment
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime,
unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury,
except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia,
when in actual service in time of War or public danger;

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When has congress provided for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia?

When have the States, appointed officers, and trained the Militia?
When has congress prescribed the discipline for the militia?

[Dead Corpse]

One comma or two, a prefatory clause does not modify the operative clause in any way. Even in today’s English.

[Dead Corpse]

Arguing over words is easier than having to pick up a gun and end their unConstitutional infringements the “old fashioned way”.