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1 posted on 07/03/2009 9:11:35 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: djsherin; bamahead; traviskicks; Bokababe; dcwusmc; exit82

He does make a rather cogent argument for a foreign policy of non-interventionism here.


2 posted on 07/03/2009 9:13:06 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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We need to "fight them over there" they say, so we don't have to "fight them over here."

This always struck me as a bogus argument in the first place. Any politician truly dedicated to ensuring that we don't have to "fight them over here" would demand that we protect our borders. Yet the same people giving us the above line were surprisingly unconcerned that enemies of the US could easily sneak across the border and wreak havoc on our own soil.

4 posted on 07/03/2009 9:18:57 AM PDT by freespirited (Is this a nation of laws or a nation of Democrats? -- Charles Krauthammer)
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If we actually had intelligent immigration laws that were properly enforced and we actually acted like we have a second amendment, they wouldn’t come over here, because they’d be denied entry or shot if they somehow got in and tried something.


6 posted on 07/03/2009 9:23:12 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Just say "No" to socialism.)
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Ron Paul once again demonstrates 18th century logic in the 21st century.

His arguments would be acceptable if there were no such thing as strategic nuclear missiles or bio-weapons.

If a stopped clock is right twice a day, does that mean you should live you life by it?


7 posted on 07/03/2009 9:24:24 AM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (No greater friend, no worse enemy -The United States Marine Corps.)
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To: rabscuttle385; djsherin; bamahead; murphE; Extremely Extreme Extremist; Captain Kirk; Gondring; ...

***If we must fight, we should do so with overwhelming force, win as quickly as possible and promptly withdraw.***

WHAT A KOOK!


10 posted on 07/03/2009 9:30:41 AM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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I’d probably agree with him if there were no airplanes, ballistic missiles, submarines, ships and satellites.


11 posted on 07/03/2009 9:31:12 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (ABC-AP-MSNBC-All Obama, All the time.)
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"1. We do not abdicate American sovereignty to global institutions...
2. We provide a strong national defense, but we do not police the world...
3. We obey the Constitution and follow the rule of law...
4. We do not engage in nation-building...
5. We stay out of the internal affairs of other nations..."

Yeah, he sure is crazy./s

17 posted on 07/03/2009 9:38:52 AM PDT by murphE ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." - GK Chesterton)
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We tried fighting them over here, it ended badly on September 11, 2001.


20 posted on 07/03/2009 9:41:11 AM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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During the last election, I thought his foreign policy position wasn't practical given that we had been attacked and that we were involved in a dual war situation we needed to finish.

Now we have given Iraq its start, I totally agree with Ron Paul on all points listed here. If we have alliances, then we should honor them, but our being the world police force or the personal security force for Europe and elsewhere only makes others weak while making us poor. It's certainly long past time to walk away from NATO.

29 posted on 07/03/2009 10:01:06 AM PDT by GBA
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Far be it from me to incur the wrath of the lobamatized Paultards, but I noticed a few things about this article. First, Paul is talking about "our foreign policy" and those nefarious "neocons" ignoring that "our" foreign policy is Obama's.

There is not one word for Obama.

Not. One. Word.

I can only assume he supports the current policy -- whatever it is.

He mentions Honduras not at all and only mentions Mohammad Mosaddeq, Obama's favorite Iranian. You know him, the great parliamentarian who was "democratically elected" although that is a bit misleading:

According to Ervand Abrahamian: "Realizing that the opposition would take the vast majority of the provincial seats, Mossadeq stopped the voting as soon as 79 deputies – just enough to form a parliamentary quorum — had been elected."
Charming.

I could tear this idiotic anti-Semite's rant to pieces for the right price, but one piece of imbecilic nonsense: "We stay out of the internal affairs of other nations. America should conduct trade, travel and diplomacy with all willing nations."

This geriatric crank doesn't actually look at the world. Trading IS interference. Starbucks is Imperialism. It doesn't matter what you do or don't do, your presence is interference. Look at Obama in Iran, he tried desperately not to interfere and they blamed it for him anyway.

BTW, what is Paul's opinion on Honduras? It'd be nice if his "philosophy" is to be adopted that he describe how it would be manifested with respect to situations that have occurred in the last half-century.

30 posted on 07/03/2009 10:03:51 AM PDT by AmishDude
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I like and respect Ron Paul on almost all issues. But I do not agree with him on his last few years of foreign poliy.

We were attacked mercilessly by foreigners who were in league with multiple nations. We took the war to them and have not been attacked in the same manner here since. Though they have tried, the fact that their entire leadership is hiding in holes in the ground and too busy fighting our forces in their own back yard has contributed to their inability to conduct major operations here.

Quite a few people thought like this prior to World War II...good thing they did not carry the day then. The attack that changfed their mind then, killed less Americans than 911.

35 posted on 07/03/2009 10:12:26 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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So there would be missles in Cuba if Paul was president in the 60’s?


51 posted on 07/03/2009 10:53:23 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (No teleprompters were harmed in the creation of this post.)
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Ron is still mad we fought the Nazis in WWII.
68 posted on 07/03/2009 12:45:22 PM PDT by deadsteve
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I would love to see the UN sent to Toronto and us out of that tin pot dictator loving association.


72 posted on 07/03/2009 1:41:05 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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Besides interventionist, globalist, neo-con fascists, who can argue with these principles?

1. We do not abdicate American sovereignty to global institutions...

2. We provide a strong national defense, but we do not police the world...

3. We obey the Constitution and follow the rule of law...

4. We do not engage in nation-building...

5. We stay out of the internal affairs of other nations...

(Because our interventionist meddling has been so successful? What would the Middle East do without our tax dollars going to fund THEM and THEIR arch enemy, Israel?)


73 posted on 07/03/2009 2:22:08 PM PDT by Nephi ( Support Fascism: Buy GE, GM and Chrysler products! You already buy gasoline.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I would prefer to fight them over here rather than put up with what happens at the airport and everything associated with the Patriot Act, the Bank Secrecy Act, anything engaged in by the Dept. of Homeland Security, etc., etc.


120 posted on 07/06/2009 7:37:34 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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