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To: BGHater

The problem with Ron Paul and illegal immigration is that until now he’s never really done anything to combat it. He voted against putting the military on the border and through the years his only solution has been ‘end welfare’.

Don’t forget Ron has never gotten one piece of his legislation through congress, and he never offered much in the way of immigration.


8 posted on 12/03/2007 11:54:08 AM PST by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB
his only solution has been ‘end welfare’.

I think that is the ultimate solution. We need to end it not only for illegals, but also Americans.
25 posted on 12/03/2007 4:41:22 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: AuntB
****Don’t forget Ron has never gotten one piece of his legislation through congress, and he never offered much in the way of immigration.***

Yeah, but wouldn’t it be wonderful what he could do with the executive power of the presidency. Some things that he has been advocating for years could be done with the stroke of a pen.

Then you have the bully pulpit. A Ron Paul win would have the congressional critters p**ping in their pants. Unbalanced budgets would have to passed over a veto. Tax raises would have to be passed over a veto. Congressional raises would have to be passed over a veto. In fact, most things would have to be passed over a veto.

Just stagnating congress would have a huge beneficial effect on our economy. Come the mid term elections, the Ron Paul Brigades will have many candidates against the congressional critters opposed to his agenda.

We are in for a wild ride.

27 posted on 12/03/2007 5:11:35 PM PST by jmeagan (Our last chance to change the direction of the country -- Ron Paul)
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To: AuntB
Don’t forget Ron has never gotten one piece of his legislation through congress . . .

AuntB you keep raising this point but it does really say anything about Paul one way or the other. For all you know the pieces of legislation he's introduced have all been wonderful and would have left our country more prosperous and more safe than it is today.

Not having legislation only means that, it didn't pass. Why didn't it pass? Because for whatever reason the other congresscritters didn't see that it passed. Maybe the bills would have limited their power or perks in some way.

. . . and he never offered much in the way of immigration.

You still admit that he's offered something. Not offering much does not equal not offering anything at all.

34 posted on 12/04/2007 5:12:40 AM PST by ksen ("For an omniscient and omnipotent God, there are no Plan B's" - Frumanchu)
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To: AuntB
Don’t forget Ron has never gotten one piece of his legislation through congress, and he never offered much in the way of immigration.

Can I forget your assertion if it's completely untrue?

In the last couple of sessions of Congress, here are a few bills Ron Paul sponsored which passed:

72. H.AMDT.271 to H.R.2862 An amendment numbered 10 printed in the Congressional Record to prohibit any of the funds in the Act from being used by the U.N. to develop or publicize any proposal concerning taxation or fees on any United States person to rause revenue for the U.N. or any of its specialized or affiliated agencies. Sponsor: Rep Paul, Ron [TX-14] (introduced 6/15/2005) Cosponsors (None) Latest Major Action: 6/15/2005 House amendment agreed to. Status: On agreeing to the Paul amendment (A024) Agreed to by voice vote.

75. H.AMDT.506 to H.R.3199 An amendment numbered 19 printed in part B of House Report 109-178 to express the sense of Congress that no American citizen should be the target of a federal investigation solely as a result of that person's political activities. Sponsor: Rep Paul, Ron [TX-14] (introduced 7/21/2005) Cosponsors (None) Latest Major Action: 7/21/2005 House amendment agreed to. Status: On agreeing to the Paul amendment (A018) Agreed to by voice vote.

107th Congress: 68. H.AMDT.480 to H.R.4546 An amendment numbered 9 printed in part A of House Report 107-450 to prohibit funds authorized in the bill from being used to assist, cooperate with, or provide any support to the International Criminal Court. Sponsor: Rep Paul, Ron [TX-14] (introduced 5/9/2002) Cosponsors (None) Latest Major Action: 5/10/2002 House amendment agreed to. Status: On agreeing to the Paul amendment (A010) Agreed to by recorded vote: 264 - 152 (Roll no. 155).


So he doesn't want the UN to tax us, he doesn't want domestic politcal persecution, and he believes in national sovereignty, and he got laws passed on all those things. There are, of course, examples from his prior 8 terms, but I figured 3 should suffice to disprove your assertion.
35 posted on 12/04/2007 5:27:43 AM PST by publiusF27
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