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Audio: Ron Paul shocked to find he’s associated with Trutherism
Hot Air ^ | 7/25/07

Posted on 07/25/2007 2:56:54 PM PDT by bnelson44

Does he … not know what Alex Jones’s radio show is about? Does he think it’s some sort of “local interest” program? He makes regular appearances on it; isn’t it about time someone clued the great man in?

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TOPICS: Candidates
KEYWORDS: 911; 911conspiracy; 911truther; alexjones; asseenonstormfront; electamoronronp; lewrockwell; paulbearers; paulestinians; ronpaul; ronpaulsuicidecult; thevoicesinronshead; tinfoil; truth; trutherism; weirdosupporters
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To: Puddleglum

Ron Paul: loved by pot legalizers, Gays, conspiracy nuts, and misguided freepers.


41 posted on 07/25/2007 5:44:04 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Who will Liberals shift the blame to if their retreat from Iraq turns into a disaster?)
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To: bnelson44

Do not mock the great man, the savior of the true believers!!!


42 posted on 07/25/2007 5:45:29 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Who will Liberals shift the blame to if their retreat from Iraq turns into a disaster?)
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To: bnelson44

The Nazis love to have him on their website too, but we are unfaithful to the conservative cause if we don’t understand it’s just a copyright thing.


43 posted on 07/25/2007 5:48:53 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Who will Liberals shift the blame to if their retreat from Iraq turns into a disaster?)
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To: elhombrelibre
Ron Paul: loved by pot legalizers, Gays, conspiracy nuts, and misguided freepers.

Ron Paul: the man that conspiracy-minded crytpo-lesbians-marxists who secretly love Big Brother (and, Oedipus be told, lust after Big Mother) love to hate. His man-teats aint big enough to satisfy the secret inner piglet craving to be suckled at the tax teat and save from freedom, horrible freedom. Jail the Founders, mamma, but jest put a li'l more butter on my bread.

There, I hope that was sweeping and silly enough. I left my big tar brush at home.

44 posted on 07/25/2007 5:50:16 PM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: SaxxonWoods
His nose was in the trough for $400 million in earmarks last session, and then he voted against the entire budget as a show.

From the original newspaper article:

Wants money returned

Paul defended his support of earmarks, which also include numerous water and highway projects in his Gulf Coast district, saying that, although he does not like the current budget process, he wants money returned to his district as funding is doled out nationwide.

"I don't think they should take our money in the first place," he said. "But if they take it, I think we should ask for it back."

The way it works in Paul's office is that local groups and officials from his district make pitches to him for federal funding. The congressman passes along those recommendations to the Appropriations Committee as earmark requests. Paul said he tries to treat everyone equally and rejects few requests. He said it would be unfair "for me to close the door and say this is a bunch of junk."

But in the end, Paul said, he would likely vote against the spending bills even if they included earmarks he sought.

This month in his weekly column, Paul expressed his philosophy about his opposition to proposed federal funding for embryonic stem cell research.

"Our founding fathers devised a system of governance that limited federal activity very narrowly," he wrote. "When Washington does something it does so at the direct expense of taxpayers."

Paul's support of at least one earmark, the renovation of Edna Theater, was greeted skeptically by a part-owner of the theater, Edna Mayor Joe Hermes. He noted that the congressman often voted against spending bills even when they contained projects for his district.

"Which doesn't make real good sense," Hermes said. The owners have been hoping to convert the shuttered theater, which opened in 1949, into a place the chamber of commerce could use.

"I hope he will not keep to the same pattern as he has in the past and make an effort to see that it actually happens," Hermes said of Paul.

Clearly, his local Chamber of Commerce con-men who want the feds to pay for their new headquarters knows RP is no friend of earmarking.

The smallest earmarker among the 9 Congressmen in the area is $250 million (a Democrat, he'll get all of it) and the largest is over a billion (a Republican, will get only a fraction of it). Ron Paul will probably only get a fraction of his as well.

Ron Paul voted for passage of all of Jeff Flake's earmark strikeout votes last year (Bridge To Nowhere, etc.). Others, like Duncan Hunter, wouldn't vote for any of them.
45 posted on 07/25/2007 5:56:50 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: Sloth
Uh, are you under the impression that Paul actually wrote that?

The Truthers sure think so. They're not so happy. Fine with me.
46 posted on 07/25/2007 6:02:10 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: bnelson44; Xenalyte; billbears

I reckon RP attracts truthers because his inclination is not to tow a typical line. He is perfectly able to offend everybody. He reflects our Constitution, which sets up a system of government to allow any and every kind of thought and religion, but restricts the bounds of federal government. (”No respect, I tell ya.”)

Paul resonates with Constitutional principles much better than a good many presidential candidates to come down the pike over a good many decades. The last thing he would consider is 9-11 as an “inside job.” Too bad so many Freepers are suckers for sound bytes.


47 posted on 07/25/2007 6:03:11 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
The last thing he would consider is 9-11 as an “inside job.” Too bad so many Freepers are suckers for sound bytes.

Exactly.

If RP was a Truther, he wouldn't have voted to pursue Osama into Afghanistan and take down the Taliban who were shielding Osama and his gang.
48 posted on 07/25/2007 6:09:29 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: SaxxonWoods
His nose was in the trough for $400 million in earmarks last session

After a little more digging, I have decided to just call BS on this remark. And I doubt his bodget votes are ever for show. If more so-called conservative Republicans had joined his sentiment, we would not have the No Dollar Left Behind Bill, and the huge Farm, the Senior Pandering Act/Medicare 'Script Plan, or the largest-ever Energy and Highway bills that passed under Bush's watch.

If other Pubbies had joined RP as a fiscal conservative and voted to trim government's rapacious growth, your grandchildren might be less likely to see the AMT applied to their piggy banks.

49 posted on 07/25/2007 6:12:24 PM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: Puddleglum

Do you love him? You do, don’t you?


50 posted on 07/25/2007 6:16:08 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Who will Liberals shift the blame to if their retreat from Iraq turns into a disaster?)
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To: billbears

“No he did what the only constitutional position is. He represented his constituents by submitting the requests. However he was able to vote against it because he knows the Constitution has no place for it. What would you rather have him do? Tell his constituents no up front? He wouldn’t be doing the first part of his job then would he?”

Ron Paul took the following “Oath of Office” when he joined the House.

“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”

Looks to me like the first part of his job, the one he swore to do, is “supporting and defending the Constitution”.


51 posted on 07/25/2007 6:17:23 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (A patriot will cast their vote in the manner most likely to deny power to democrats.)
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To: George W. Bush
FYI more RP video in case you haven't seen it.
52 posted on 07/25/2007 6:18:31 PM PDT by Jason_b
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To: Puddleglum

Ron Paul: the weirdo candidate.


53 posted on 07/25/2007 6:18:35 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Who will Liberals shift the blame to if their retreat from Iraq turns into a disaster?)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

That sounds nice but I doubt it is very true to life. Paul attracks Truthers because he listens to what they say and doesn’t rebut them. They really think he believes what they believe. That Paul is surprised at this fact shows he isn’t paying much attention to what is going on around him.


54 posted on 07/25/2007 6:24:22 PM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: elhombrelibre; Puddleglum; SaxxonWoods
Maybe a few words explaining these earmarks would help.

In essence, the request for earmark does not determine how much is spent by the federal government. The spending levels are determined beforehand. What earmarks do is grant requests by congressmen to fund particular projects in their district and it is deducted from the total spending which has already been determined. If no earmarks were allowed, the same amount of federal money you tax dollars would be spent but it would be determined solely by federal bureaucrats in charge of the respective agencies.

It's probably an open question whether congressmen bribing interests in their own district to ensure easy re-election is any worse than federal bureaucrats divvying up the take. As RP points out, the problem is sending the money to D.C. to begin with. And he's right.

Ron Paul wrote a weekly column about it a while back that was quite good. (It wasn't hot enough to be reprinted by the crypto-Nazis though. Pshaw.)

RP: Earmark Victory May Be A Hollow One
55 posted on 07/25/2007 6:28:17 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: Jason_b
His talk at Google was good despite the fact he stiffed them to their faces on Net Neutrality (RP thinks that those who pay for all the bandwidth should have some say in its allocation, Google opposes this for obvious reasons). Even so, he did well there and some Googlers had a fundraiser for him and he had another that evening in Silicon Valley.

Of course, we're trying to stick with the Truther accusations on this particular thread.
56 posted on 07/25/2007 6:32:49 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: bnelson44

I’m shocked, SHOCKED! Guy is spinning faster than the human eye can see now.

Uh, L. Ron? Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.


57 posted on 07/25/2007 6:34:11 PM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: George W. Bush
Get real. The man is a joke. He's a dumbed down Pat Paulsen. Elect him and the Left, al Qaeda, Iran, American Nazis, pot smokers, Gays, and weirdos will all be happy. But future generations will wonder what went wrong. This is a candidate for the inane and the risible.
58 posted on 07/25/2007 6:35:40 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Who will Liberals shift the blame to if their retreat from Iraq turns into a disaster?)
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To: SaxxonWoods

It is a cult. They’re romantically in love with him. All reason has been swept asid.


59 posted on 07/25/2007 6:36:29 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Who will Liberals shift the blame to if their retreat from Iraq turns into a disaster?)
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To: Xenalyte
The only true Constitutionalist on the horizon

Xenalyte, I love you, but you gotta get with the program. You're supposed to capitalize Only and True.

Actually, it's "One True Holy Apostolic Constitutionalist."

Hunter and Tancredo are chopped liver, and wouldn't recognize the Constitution if it bit them on the ass.

/sarcasm

60 posted on 07/25/2007 6:36:49 PM PDT by Larry Lucido ( Hunter 2008)
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