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In so many words, Paul stated the obvious and basically repeated the findings of the 911 Commission's report:

"-- Meddling in the affairs of others often fosters animosity and a desire for retaliation, and we would never allow other countries to do to us some of the same things that the US is doing to them --"

—and it amazes me to see the scores of people who cannot seem to grasp those facts.

Seems to me it's a fairly simple concept; - why so many here at FR blow up about it [like Guiliani] is a minor mystery.

1 posted on 05/17/2007 7:08:14 PM PDT by tpaine
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Wait till you see the reaction to Zawahiri quoting Paul in his next tape. LOL


3 posted on 05/17/2007 7:11:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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There is no smear campaign.
Ron Paul is on the skids becuase he is the odd duck.
He is far to idealogical to winover joe everyman


4 posted on 05/17/2007 7:11:36 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Why does Ron Paul invoke the name of Reagan then? Reagan was the polar opposite of Ron Paul with regards to international affairs.


5 posted on 05/17/2007 7:11:37 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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Because people who believe they have "the answer" usually seek to impose it on everyone else for their own good.

Mind your own business is difficult advice to follow.

6 posted on 05/17/2007 7:12:19 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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I don’t need Glen Beck to tell me Ron Paul is a nut.


7 posted on 05/17/2007 7:12:33 PM PDT by jennyjenny
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The justifications of the Jihadists are just for the gullible. Al Qeada wants to kill you even if you are not meddling in their politics. What has Indonesian Christians ever done to support Israel, or interfere with Mideast politics? The posturing of Osama is not relevant. Killing his is.
9 posted on 05/17/2007 7:13:40 PM PDT by mission9 (Be a citizen worth living for, in a Nation worth dying for...)
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Should we base our foreign policy around the wishes of Osama bin Laden?

Because that’s what a Ron Paul presidency would entail. Paul likes to lecture us about history but he seems to not understand that appeasement has never worked.


10 posted on 05/17/2007 7:14:15 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative (Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.)
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Hitler resented the US too for meddling in WWI. Lot’s of people resent us. Japan prior to WWII resented the US meddling in Asia. Many Muslims, like bin Laden, who’s feelings matter to Ron Paul, resent the US because we won’t abandon Israel. The poor misunderstood Mr. bin Laden, whom some folks have empathy for, killed over 3 thousand Americans. Sociopathic murderers often do have grievances. Ordinary Americans take them less than serious when they turn to murder.
11 posted on 05/17/2007 7:14:37 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Al Qaeda knows Iraq's strategic value, yet the Democrats work day and night for our defeat there.)
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If I understand what you’re saying, I fear you’re wrong. We can’t pretend that isolationism would work. It didn’t work before WWII, and it certainly won’t now. And, BTW, as to those online “polls” showing Dr. Paul in the lead, bear in mind they were probably loaded by the libs who’d like nothing better than for the Republicans to nominate him.


12 posted on 05/17/2007 7:14:46 PM PDT by hsalaw
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after he scored so high in poll after poll, following the first debate

If he really had scored high in any poll, they'd be listing the poll and his numbers. The reality is that a small number of people support this nutbag. LGF has a link to all the polls and Ron Paul never gets more than 2% in any of the polls. That's why his loony supporters are stooping to lying about his performance.

Keep on polishin' that turd, Paulians.

14 posted on 05/17/2007 7:15:30 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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Ron Paul is a gadfly. That can be a useful role for a congressman to play, and his constituents seem willing to support it. Fine.

But he will never appeal to the country as a whole, or to the conservative movement as a whole, or to Republicans as a whole. And he would make a lousy president.

Sure the 9/11 comission said that. So what? Do you credit everything that Jamie Gorelik and Co. had to say? They managed to pretend that clinton had nothing to do with 9/11 at all. Some commission.


15 posted on 05/17/2007 7:16:18 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Being an anarcho-capitalist, I do not care for government . . . .

Being an anarcho-capitalist does not enhance one's credibility.

16 posted on 05/17/2007 7:16:28 PM PDT by Logophile
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If only we hadn’t brought Pearl Harbor on ourselves by making the Japanese mad...we could be living safe in isolation today, avoiding entanglements with Nazi Europe and the Japanese Empire of the Pacific.


17 posted on 05/17/2007 7:17:51 PM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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How easy “Dr” Paul forgets that the reason we MUST “meddle” in the affairs of others is that they have done things like run a 1300 year campaign fostering genocide in search of world domination.

But sure, we should follow your nutsack’s recommendation to remain isolated.

Whatever.


18 posted on 05/17/2007 7:18:28 PM PDT by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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That fool smears himself.


19 posted on 05/17/2007 7:19:15 PM PDT by Petronski (Ron Paul will never be President of the United States.)
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"-- Meddling in the affairs of others often fosters animosity and a desire for retaliation, and we would never allow other countries to do to us some of the same things that the US is doing to them --"

And if you don't believe it, just look at Japan and Germany that we meddled in vigorously. Sixty-odd years of occupation, and they're still quagmires.

Oh - wait a minute - they're actually civilized, peaceful countries?

Never mind.

20 posted on 05/17/2007 7:19:47 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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http://www.chrispeden.org


21 posted on 05/17/2007 7:19:53 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (I believe that's my stapler....)
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I think the John Paul Smear campaign has done him in. Too many Americans found it offensive to see him carrying out his blame America for 911 smear


24 posted on 05/17/2007 7:22:32 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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It is increasingly obvious that the only thing that the pseudo-Conservatives attacking Dr. Paul have to offer is aspersions and insult. In the past two days, there has been a virtual absence of any intellectual content in the attacks. Generally, they misrepresent what he says, then oversimplify the issues involved, and hurl sloganized rant in response to the straw man created.

The fact is that neither Paul's Republican foes, nor his likely Democratic foes in the future, have any adequate response to his basic position on the Constitution, economics, or traditional American values. All they have is invective and abuse. Paul is completely correct in pointing out that the Constitution does not authorize most of the grandiose schemes that others have endorsed.

Will Paul fare well in the Primaries? Well, who expected Bill Clinton to get his Party's nomination in May of 1991? The fact that Paul does so well in the straw polls after the so-called "Debates," where he is limited to 30 and 60 second sound bites, where his natural advantage over the sloganeers does not even come into play, strongly suggests that he has a real chance, if he can get the funding for some serious media time. The best chance that he has to get that is a continuation of the ridiculous posturing of the Giulianis and Sean Hannitys, which are provoking the real outrage of true Conservatives and Libertarians.

Time will tell.

William Flax

30 posted on 05/17/2007 7:31:25 PM PDT by Ohioan
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We used to have something called “The Monroe Doctrine” that promised war to anyone meddling in the Americas.

Paul’s critics won’t admit that other countries, religions, whatever, could have a similar anger at our meddling in what they consider their own back yards. If they do admit it privately they are still eager to play a demagogue’s game in vilifying Ron Paul.

I’m not a Paul supporter, but he’s a thoughtful man who deserves not to be mau maued.


32 posted on 05/17/2007 7:33:32 PM PDT by Pelham (Treason, not just for Democrats anymore.)
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