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To: Mark17
I did not think there were people out there claiming sinless perfection. Maybe I was wrong.

You are. Although those of us who believe the doctrine don't care for the term 'sinless perfection' much, since it holds all sorts of negative connotations for many people. We tend to prefer the terms 'entire sanctification,' 'Christian perfection,' or 'full redemption.' Some use the term 'baptism in the Spirit,' although they understand what the baptism in the Spirit is wrongly, saying that it does not occur at regeneration, but comes later.

12 posted on 10/04/2003 12:15:49 AM PDT by The Grammarian
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To: The Grammarian
We tend to prefer the terms 'entire sanctification,' 'Christian perfection,' or 'full redemption.'

So, does that mean sinless perfection, regardless of what connotations it brings up?

13 posted on 10/04/2003 1:13:33 AM PDT by Mark17
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To: The Grammarian
Some use the term 'baptism in the Spirit,' although they understand what the baptism in the Spirit is wrongly, saying that it does not occur at regeneration, but comes later.

From all my dealings with them, they don't believe that 'baptism in the Spirit' is a perfecting event either. It doesn't seem to have the remotest resemblance to the doctrine of 'entire sanctification' - to me. (I believe the indwelling/filling with the Spirit occurs at the moment of salvation, so that in effect puts me in a second-class Christian caste according to the 'baptism of the Spirit' folks...)

25 posted on 12/01/2003 1:25:54 PM PST by Terriergal (Psalm 11: 3 "When the foundations are being destroyed, what can the righteous do?")
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