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>>No they didn't know it explicitly and that in part is the error of it. Saul thought he was talking to the prophet though he spoke with a demon. God put him to death for trying to commune with the prophet.

Saul DID know he was disobeying God. That's why he spoke to a witch, not a Levite. And the prophet was in Hades, not with God in Heaven. And even the prophet in Hades corrected Saul.

>> Sin didn't stop being sin when Christ came, it merely stopped being appropriate for men to take the right of punishment into their hands.

No, it doesn't, but the nature of the act is completely changed. Communing with the dead, as done in Voodoo is still a mortal sin. Jesus spoke with Moses and Elijah in the transfiguration. That's a little different, since they manifested themselves with him, but the point remains that they were dead, and Jesus spoke with them.

>> but praying to a dead person who cannot hear you

Who says they cannot hear you? The souls in Heaven watch the events below. "And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:" (Rev 19.1). These are they who Rev 14 calls the Saints, the firstfruits.

Saul DID know he was disobeying God.

This doesn't comport with what you said earlier. This I would agree on. The rest is claptrap.

No, it doesn't, but the nature of the act is completely changed.

Double talk. Sin is still sin. If it was sin to commune with the dead then, it is now. The law was not done away with, it was fulfilled. That means it's definitions of sin still hold, only the judge has changed - to be as concise as possible.

Jesus spoke with Moses and Elijah in the transfiguration.

Do you not know scripture?! Jesus had a Vision. Go read it again. Scripture does not say that they were present. It says he saw them in a vision. Christ even Corrected Peter for saying that they were present. Do we need to call him down to correct you to? Astonishing.

Who says they cannot hear you? The souls in Heaven watch the events below. "And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:" (Rev 19.1). These are they who Rev 14 calls the Saints, the firstfruits.

Well, where to begin on this one. Ecclesiastes says they can have nothing more to do ever with anything that happens under the sun. Speach happens under the sun (ie here on earth). That would fall into that Anything - ever exclusion. Next, you reference what John saw in heaven going on, that would be John seeing events in heaven, not vice versa. But, then you neglect to note it is a vision, not an actual happenstance. John wasn't in heaven, nor was the remnant in heaven on earth making a display for John's benefit. In short, you've offered nothing but empty excuses and sweet sounding hollow rhetoric. Biblically, you should be rebuked at this point.

Sin didn't stop being sin when Christ came,

OH?

Romans 4
13. It was not through law that Abraham and his offspring received the promise that he would be heir of the world, but through the righteousness that comes by faith. 14. For if those who live by law are heirs, faith has no value and the promise is worthless, 15. because law brings wrath. And where there is no law there is no transgression.